hi friends,
like everyone i've a problem too. but this is a little weird.i've been married for 4 years now. me and my husband have been having fights on and off and we've learn to live with it like any other indian couple. then u might ask wats the difference? the only difference is that he's physically abused me in the past but does'nt do it anymore. because of this my parents and his parents dont've any contact .
coming to my problem. whenever we've a bad tiff sometimes i tell my mom. she's the only person i can really let out my feelings. usually i talk to her when he leaves to work. but it happened this time i was depressed as the fight went on for days so i called my mom one night probably after 1 o clock i guess. i did'nt know my husband over heard it......he was so mad he blasted and started yelling with the speaker phone on complaining to my mom. i kept quiet as i did'nt wanna continue this. this happened 3 weeks ago.
from then he was finding a way to find fault with me. but i kept quiet as i did'nt want to fight in front of the baby. last week he was mad at me for a trivial thing and i started crying saying y r u doing this? and he's like dont u think i dont know what u and ur family talk abt me , i was like, \";what do u mean?
he's telling me all along after our fight 3 weeks back he had recored all my private conversations with my mom.
how cud a person whom we love so much could turn into this kind of monster?
i'm so hurt and depressed but 've to live for the sake of my baby.my husband is also attached to our child.
friends please tell me what to do?
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hi friends,
like everyone i've a problem too. but this is a little weird.i've been married for 4 years now. me and my husband have been having fights on and off and we've learn to live with it like any other indian couple. then u might ask wats the difference? the only difference is that he's physically abused me in the past but does'nt do it anymore. because of this my parents and his parents dont've any contact .
coming to my problem. whenever we've a bad tiff sometimes i tell my mom. she's the only person i can really let out my feelings. usually i talk to her when he leaves to work. but it happened this time i was depressed as the fight went on for days so i called my mom one night probably after 1 o clock i guess. i did'nt know my husband over heard it......he was so mad he blasted and started yelling with the speaker phone on complaining to my mom. i kept quiet as i did'nt wanna continue this. this happened 3 weeks ago.
from then he was finding a way to find fault with me. but i kept quiet as i did'nt want to fight in front of the baby. last week he was mad at me for a trivial thing and i started crying saying y r u doing this? and he's like dont u think i dont know what u and ur family talk abt me , i was like, \";what do u mean?
he's telling me all along after our fight 3 weeks back he had recored all my private conversations with my mom.
how cud a person whom we love so much could turn into this kind of monster?
i'm so hurt and depressed but 've to live for the sake of my baby.my husband is also attached to our child.
friends please tell me what to do?
Dias replied. hi dear!
I can advise you best thing!
Pl stop complaining at all. Pl stop it. stop it. stop it ...Thats it!
Because I know its the greater mistacke girls do. After, all of these this happened in ur married life,Now u have to own the situations and be cool . already that ur parents were in bad impressions 'bout him. They cant help u over ur fights but might feel sad and again u'll be aroused to see them sad ...that worsens this situation badly.
Trust him sweetie ! After reading everything, I could conclude u can easily TRUST him.HE is still good except his heart is burning with past and still u r provocating him (like ur complaints to mom) to not to believe u further.
Just think dear, Whatever he is ..He is just ur husband .No man can feel his wife entirely his own until wives behave so.When u r telling everything to uur parents.He definitely gets annoyed with ur parents' interference( though they dont interfere directly ) ,He feels their virtual presence while talking to u and behaving with u.
U can easily trust him.But, Know what,NOw it's time for you to make him trust u , dear!
He has no trust in u because u r sharing everything with them ,it makes him feel irritated.SO ,Pl don't mistaken me if I wrote anything huting u...but I can c ur hubby clearly now ! Because without any bitter experiences from my parents, my hubby dislikes them and tell me it directly .he doesnt even talk well.
I'm not supporting ur hubby.He was 90% at fault for scolding and for everything...But now ,ur share is there in making him stubborn.Ok?!
So,If u can do it ,I can appreciate u.
Just start talking to them only in his presence and not in his absense and dont talk anything 'bout family...Jsut listen to them. And if u talk in his absence, just avoid complaints.
Not that ur parents are bad and r spoiling u...etc...But they r so keen for our happiness and will feel sad and will have those impacts for ever. That affects us in our terms with hubby.
Plz, dear ! Take a resolution to not to tell anything never ever.And try to convey him that u were wrong in telling them everything and u r not gonna do that again.
Hope u feel point in me saying so.
Pavithra replied. Try to apologise to him about calling your mother and as Su says try telling good stuff about him to your mother,b'coz he is recording this.
Tell your mother that he is a good father and stuff like that.
You can try by making all the food he likes and set the conversation of apologising .
Tell him that if both of you stop this abusive relationship you can start afresh and start living happy,ask him doesn't he want to have a happy married life.Tell him that you want a happy life with him too.Assure him no matter what his parents will forgive him once they know that he is treating you properly.
All the best.
Pavitra replied. I really am sorry for the troubles you are going thru sweetie.
Everybody's personal experience is different,but there is no need to go thru all that abuse.Unlike in Su's case your calling your mom and your hubby listening and recording your phone calls didn't make any difference to him.
Alright now the baby factor.You have the biggest advantage here.You say that he is very attached to the baby,here's your advantage.
When he is in a better mood take the baby in your hands,and ask (b4 that do you have a boy or a girl??) him how he is gonna feel when his baby see's him hitting you.Ask him is this the kind of impression he wants his baby to have about him.What if he continues this and this behaviour starts affecting you baby what is he going to do then,ask him(if you have a girl) if your baby were in your place what would he as a father have felt????(I pray to God above that nothing like that ever happens to your baby and nothing ever will,just that I want your hubby to see this point of view as a father and the way your father sees your plight today)Believe me if nothing else this can at least set him thinking.
Next time he abuses you do one thing get your baby in the room and then ask him to continue whatever he is doing in front of the baby,so that the baby grows and knows her father really well.
I don't know if this will help.But any parent who is as attached to their baby as your husband is can feel remorse for what he is doing.
This can bring about a change in your hubby,hopefully.
All the best.
Do let us know what happens sweetie.
And if nothing works at least for the baby you may have to take the ultimate decision for the proper growth of your baby and yourself.
I sincerely hope everything works out for your sake.But be smart also and just like he is recording do something which might help you also.
Don't be in the abusive relationship for too long,wait try out all possible ways to smoothen the relationship but if nothing works out be sure to take the right decision.
su replied. Hi, I experienced this situation soon after our marriage. Within 2months he started finding fault with me and physically abused me. I used to cry throughout the night. Just they day before his sister's arrival he became too synical that he was telling i should do all the household works, and shouldn't let his sister to do any works, this and that. I agreed to everything, but he said he could see that i am jealous of his sister! I couldn't take this and my hubby appeared like a psycho to me. He started hitting me and it went on till midnight. Just 6 months had passed at that time. I called my sister in india around 3 in the midnight and started crying. This irriated him too much. Next day when his sister arrived he told all his suspicions about me. With her advice, he called my brothers, sister, his parents and told the same to them. He said i hit him! They couldn't believe it and my brother started crying too! Till that day they were thinking our life was going on fine. They couldn't believe his complaints because they knew me for so many years. They called me and i had to explain everything to them. They started developing bad opinion about my husband and his sister. They were even willing to support me if i wanted to go for divorce.
It was so miserable at that time that i even thought of committing suicide but i thought let me wait till we finish 1 year of our marriage to decide what to do. For 1 month i was continuously asking him to forgive me for my call to my sister and it worked. Still for 6 months even if i did small mistake he used to call and tell my brother. My brother got angry. Everytime i used to convince my brother that only because of my sil's constant complaints my hubby is behaving like this, otherwise he is fine. My husband also felt he lost all his reputations in my family. I convinced him that my family would always forgive my mistakes, since i am still living with him, they could realize he is a good husband and forgive him too.
Nearly 6 months after my midnight phone call to my sister things changed with our life. Physical abuse continued till 2 years, but soon after each incident my husband started apologizing to me. My brothers stopped talking to my sil and she is complaining constantly since then about them to my husband. Earlier he used to believe all her complaints but now he stopped reacting to her. Even now my mil and fil would tell me that i shouldn't hit my husband. I never did that and i explained to them too. But they would never believe. According to them they are good people, that is why they are tolerating such a bad daughter-in-law. It is painful because when they visited us i worked liked a machine in cooking, working (job) and pleasing them. Now i realized that for the fear of getting bad name, they are putting the blame on me. Anyway my family knows the truth so i stopped listening to their criticism about me. If my husband understands and changes that is enough for me.
Sorry for telling my story, i couldn't help it. Like mine your situation will also change. You need to be patient for some months. You should try to clear your husband's guilty feeling by picking some proper words. You should tell him that you did that phone call out of helplessness and you would never do that. Your family has high regard for your husband and because of your phone call they will not change it. Since your husband is recording your phone calls, you should talk nice words to her in your phone. If possible go out and find some other telephone to tell your worries to your mother and tell her that she should speak very nice words about your husband when you are talking from home phone. (I used to talk to my family from my work phone and did the same)! You have to think a lot to straighten matters and work to set it right. Pray to God. He will surely help you. He only gave me the courage and help to come out of that misery.
rk replied. i really dont have words as u had rightly said just for the sake of baby one need to stay ,sometimes i feel god just for the spouses not to go apart he is giving kids. I feel before atleast my hubby was good friend now the relation does not have name either friend or good spouse relation is at stake.
2006-05-25
#1
Name: Dias Subject: Follow this, dear!
hi dear!
I can advise you best thing!
Pl stop complaining at all. Pl stop it. stop it. stop it ...Thats it!
Because I know its the greater mistacke girls do. After, all of these this happened in ur married life,Now u have to own the situations and be cool . already that ur parents were in bad impressions 'bout him. They cant help u over ur fights but might feel sad and again u'll be aroused to see them sad ...that worsens this situation badly.
Trust him sweetie ! After reading everything, I could conclude u can easily TRUST him.HE is still good except his heart is burning with past and still u r provocating him (like ur complaints to mom) to not to believe u further.
Just think dear, Whatever he is ..He is just ur husband .No man can feel his wife entirely his own until wives behave so.When u r telling everything to uur parents.He definitely gets annoyed with ur parents' interference( though they dont interfere directly ) ,He feels their virtual presence while talking to u and behaving with u.
U can easily trust him.But, Know what,NOw it's time for you to make him trust u , dear!
He has no trust in u because u r sharing everything with them ,it makes him feel irritated.SO ,Pl don't mistaken me if I wrote anything huting u...but I can c ur hubby clearly now ! Because without any bitter experiences from my parents, my hubby dislikes them and tell me it directly .he doesnt even talk well.
I'm not supporting ur hubby.He was 90% at fault for scolding and for everything...But now ,ur share is there in making him stubborn.Ok?!
So,If u can do it ,I can appreciate u.
Just start talking to them only in his presence and not in his absense and dont talk anything 'bout family...Jsut listen to them. And if u talk in his absence, just avoid complaints.
Not that ur parents are bad and r spoiling u...etc...But they r so keen for our happiness and will feel sad and will have those impacts for ever. That affects us in our terms with hubby.
Plz, dear ! Take a resolution to not to tell anything never ever.And try to convey him that u were wrong in telling them everything and u r not gonna do that again.
Hope u feel point in me saying so.
2006-05-30
#2
Name: Dias Subject: love u!
Thanks Su! all r self experiences dear!! ;)
2006-05-27
#3
Name: su Subject: clarification
Dear hi, i wrote in my post that you can call your mother to complain about your husband from outside telephone booth. Actually i am completely wrong here, I am sorry about that. As Dias said telling all your problems to your parents will make them sad and will give wrong opinion about your husband. In my case i did that mistake only once, my phone call to my sister in the midnight. Till then my family didn't know we had fights and he physically abused me. After that it was my husband who called my family for petty problems. To set things right, i called my family from outside to explain the situation. I told them only in anger he behaves like this otherwise he is good.
As dias said it is really essential for husband to trust the wife, and your complaints to your mother will spoil this. I agree that sometimes you will feel like sharing your sorrow with somebody close. You have to be careful that you don't give a bad name to your husband because of this.
2006-05-27
#4
Name: su Subject: Well said dias
What you said is 100% truth dias. It is not good to complain to our parents frequently, unless situation demands. This will create many problems, out of their concerns and worries for us. Your post is so honest and wise, Dias.
2006-05-25
#5
Name: Pavithra Subject: One more thing!
Try to apologise to him about calling your mother and as Su says try telling good stuff about him to your mother,b'coz he is recording this.
Tell your mother that he is a good father and stuff like that.
You can try by making all the food he likes and set the conversation of apologising .
Tell him that if both of you stop this abusive relationship you can start afresh and start living happy,ask him doesn't he want to have a happy married life.Tell him that you want a happy life with him too.Assure him no matter what his parents will forgive him once they know that he is treating you properly.
All the best.
2006-05-25
#6
Name: Pavitra Subject: Hi !!
I really am sorry for the troubles you are going thru sweetie.
Everybody's personal experience is different,but there is no need to go thru all that abuse.Unlike in Su's case your calling your mom and your hubby listening and recording your phone calls didn't make any difference to him.
Alright now the baby factor.You have the biggest advantage here.You say that he is very attached to the baby,here's your advantage.
When he is in a better mood take the baby in your hands,and ask (b4 that do you have a boy or a girl??) him how he is gonna feel when his baby see's him hitting you.Ask him is this the kind of impression he wants his baby to have about him.What if he continues this and this behaviour starts affecting you baby what is he going to do then,ask him(if you have a girl) if your baby were in your place what would he as a father have felt????(I pray to God above that nothing like that ever happens to your baby and nothing ever will,just that I want your hubby to see this point of view as a father and the way your father sees your plight today)Believe me if nothing else this can at least set him thinking.
Next time he abuses you do one thing get your baby in the room and then ask him to continue whatever he is doing in front of the baby,so that the baby grows and knows her father really well.
I don't know if this will help.But any parent who is as attached to their baby as your husband is can feel remorse for what he is doing.
This can bring about a change in your hubby,hopefully.
All the best.
Do let us know what happens sweetie.
And if nothing works at least for the baby you may have to take the ultimate decision for the proper growth of your baby and yourself.
I sincerely hope everything works out for your sake.But be smart also and just like he is recording do something which might help you also.
Don't be in the abusive relationship for too long,wait try out all possible ways to smoothen the relationship but if nothing works out be sure to take the right decision.
2006-05-25
#7
Name: depressed wife Subject: thank u pavithra
dear pavithra,
thank u so much for ur reply.when he gets mad he loses control. fortunately he does'nt physically abuse me now but verbally abuses me a lot. to the extent sometimes calls be a bitch. i've been raised from a decent family and no1 has ever spoke to me that way. not only that, he sometimes calls my mom a bitch too, which i can never digest. i've told him 1 million times to change his behavior. he says then dont provoke me. when i get mad dont answer back. if u do then this is wat u'll get.i've a boy now. i also told him , c what if this boy calls me by all this name one day. that time he feels sorry. but he repeats it, not everytime though, so far atleast 6-7 times in 4 yrs. recently a month ago.now he's gone to the point of recording, i dunno wat he'll do next?
men y r they such a jerks? y cant they understand that its their wife who comes till the end n not their mom?
i'm prepared to do anything if he'll change and trust me completely. pleae read my reply to su too.
thanks for the time pavithra but please do respond. ur reply made my day
2006-05-25
#8
Name: su Subject: be patient, things will change
Hi, I experienced this situation soon after our marriage. Within 2months he started finding fault with me and physically abused me. I used to cry throughout the night. Just they day before his sister's arrival he became too synical that he was telling i should do all the household works, and shouldn't let his sister to do any works, this and that. I agreed to everything, but he said he could see that i am jealous of his sister! I couldn't take this and my hubby appeared like a psycho to me. He started hitting me and it went on till midnight. Just 6 months had passed at that time. I called my sister in india around 3 in the midnight and started crying. This irriated him too much. Next day when his sister arrived he told all his suspicions about me. With her advice, he called my brothers, sister, his parents and told the same to them. He said i hit him! They couldn't believe it and my brother started crying too! Till that day they were thinking our life was going on fine. They couldn't believe his complaints because they knew me for so many years. They called me and i had to explain everything to them. They started developing bad opinion about my husband and his sister. They were even willing to support me if i wanted to go for divorce.
It was so miserable at that time that i even thought of committing suicide but i thought let me wait till we finish 1 year of our marriage to decide what to do. For 1 month i was continuously asking him to forgive me for my call to my sister and it worked. Still for 6 months even if i did small mistake he used to call and tell my brother. My brother got angry. Everytime i used to convince my brother that only because of my sil's constant complaints my hubby is behaving like this, otherwise he is fine. My husband also felt he lost all his reputations in my family. I convinced him that my family would always forgive my mistakes, since i am still living with him, they could realize he is a good husband and forgive him too.
Nearly 6 months after my midnight phone call to my sister things changed with our life. Physical abuse continued till 2 years, but soon after each incident my husband started apologizing to me. My brothers stopped talking to my sil and she is complaining constantly since then about them to my husband. Earlier he used to believe all her complaints but now he stopped reacting to her. Even now my mil and fil would tell me that i shouldn't hit my husband. I never did that and i explained to them too. But they would never believe. According to them they are good people, that is why they are tolerating such a bad daughter-in-law. It is painful because when they visited us i worked liked a machine in cooking, working (job) and pleasing them. Now i realized that for the fear of getting bad name, they are putting the blame on me. Anyway my family knows the truth so i stopped listening to their criticism about me. If my husband understands and changes that is enough for me.
Sorry for telling my story, i couldn't help it. Like mine your situation will also change. You need to be patient for some months. You should try to clear your husband's guilty feeling by picking some proper words. You should tell him that you did that phone call out of helplessness and you would never do that. Your family has high regard for your husband and because of your phone call they will not change it. Since your husband is recording your phone calls, you should talk nice words to her in your phone. If possible go out and find some other telephone to tell your worries to your mother and tell her that she should speak very nice words about your husband when you are talking from home phone. (I used to talk to my family from my work phone and did the same)! You have to think a lot to straighten matters and work to set it right. Pray to God. He will surely help you. He only gave me the courage and help to come out of that misery.
2006-05-25
#9
Name: su Subject: one more thing
Just now i read your reply to pavithra. Words spoken in anger should not be counted. Trust me my husband also did this. Once i replied to him, if i am a bitch, he needs to be ashamed as he is married to me. But nothing helped. When i started ignoring his scolding in anger, he started changing. I am repeating again - my husband told me that in anger he speaks and does things which he really didn't want to do, didn't plan to do. It is just that he loses his control. If i keep quiet he will apologize to me. After that i kept quiet and he kept his promise. If husban accepts his weakness openly, then we should try to help them. It will result only to our advantage.
2006-05-25
#10
Name: su Subject: my prayers are with you
Dear depressed wife, Oh God, so much has happened in your life?! I feel your parents could have waited before filing a complaint, but we can't change the past. Whenever there is a big fight he may also fear that you will do the same against him. That can threaten him from inside which is why he gets very angry. You should give him confidence that you will always be there for him. After so many abuses, oneday my husband openly said this to me. He said in anger he does things which he didn't imagine he would do. After that he feels guilty but he fears i will leave him. Then only i realized that his insecurity makes him violent and angry. So your husband may also have similar feeling of insecurity.
Since your husband took the intiative for staying together again, you can take this as a positive point. Then he loves your baby. Hereafter you should be very careful. Like i said use a calling card and call from someother place if you want to make any complaints about him. (Also when things go fine don't forget to tell his positive points to your mother. You are complaining to her only to get some consolations, not for giving your husband a bad name). In front of him you speak just nice words. You said he also stopped hitting you, this shows he could realize his mistake and change for better. Like this he can change is other aspects too.
You said he is also not accepting your gift and he openly admits his anger to you. You can trust him. If he wanted to trouble you he would have taken all your money. Once his anger subsides he will be loving you again. Till then you have to be patient. You are doing the right thing by showing him how much you love with a letter and gift. Continue this. I know it is difficult when our husband yells at us. Right down his positive points and think if you really believe he is a good husband and you are not worried about living with him. This will make your situation clear for you and tolerating his anger can be easier for you. I still feel your husband loves you and needs you. It is just that he is angry now.
No man can forget a written complaint against his parents, no matter what they did. It will take more time for your husband to accept your parents. If he allows you to talk to them and meet them, that itself shows he is basically good.
I know it is hard to accept that he doesn't start a joint a/c. Atleast now you have job and your own savings. That should make you to feel safe.
Now you don't raise any controversial topic, don't talk about the past, even if he starts try to be diplomatic, try to do everything that will please him. Once his anger subsides he will become normal. Once you both are doing well, soon he can forgive your parents and talk to them too! May God be with you.
2006-05-25
#11
Name: depressed wife Subject: forgot to mention this
by the way i did'nt book a ticket to india, but to my aunts place here in the US
2006-05-25
#12
Name: depressed wife Subject: thanks su
dear su,
thank u so much for your time and concern. i've been patient all this while. while he abused me physically i left him and we were separated for 10 months.did i tell u how my parents n my in laws dont talk to each other? because my parents went to their home after this happened n they insulted my parents. so my parents went to the police in india. but i came to know after all this happened and told them to withdraw the complaint. but my husband took the initiative and v got back together. but since then its been a constant battle. he remembers something or the ohter from the past and fights abt it.one time after 9 months of maariage during a fight i booked a flight ticket using his credit card without his permission because i did'nt have a penny in hand. luckily i've a respectable job now. but he does'nt trust me with money has'nt opened a joint a/c yet. but mine is joint a/c. does'nt know wat he does with his money. he wants me to contribute half of whatever comes in to the family. i said i'll give u my salary and u take care of it, but b4 that we need to've a joint a/c. but he's like i can never do that. only that when we were seperated he made a 100 promises and this in the top list. he does'nt talk to my dad anymore. his parents refuse to talk to me.in spite of all this, last month was a our anniversary. so i wrote him a detail mail of how i feel abt him and how much i love him and included all my saving in a cashiers check. he refused to take the money and showed no signs of love. later past weekeend he's telling me that was because he had recorded my conversations with my mom.
how can i make this person understand that i love him deeply make him trust me 100 %.
please reply su...
2006-05-25
#13
Name: su Subject: just few more words
Hi depressed wife, since your husband's loves your child he needs you. Has he not shown once that he loves you? I think he would have. If your husband feels guilty, like your parents lost their respect because of your phone call, then you should try to clear his guilt feelings. Men have ego and when it is hurt they will behave violently like mad, though they don't really mean to do anyharm to you. If you help him to come out of his depression then he will love you more. I found these mixed feelings with my husband, that is why i tried to help him first. Sorry for bothering your thread with my story. I thought i can give you hope. Follow Pavithra's advice.
Dear Hi, i thank you for your continued support.
2006-05-25
#14
Name: hi Subject: this is hi
hi su
i really couldn't help laughing dear, when i read the lines'MY FIL AND MIL WOULD TELL ME THAT I SHOULDN'T HIT MY HUSBAND'.
what r they thinking dear?
this is life. thaat is what i learned dear. so take everything at ease. pray to god love ur kids and ur hubby whatever hethnks and do. BECAUSE THAT IS GOOD FOR OUR HEALTHY MND AND BODY.
luv hi
2006-05-25
#15
Name: rk Subject: all the best!!
i really dont have words as u had rightly said just for the sake of baby one need to stay ,sometimes i feel god just for the spouses not to go apart he is giving kids. I feel before atleast my hubby was good friend now the relation does not have name either friend or good spouse relation is at stake.
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