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2007-11-27
Name: gg



very good question u asked all of us...atleast we shared soemthing good...it also reminded about our husbands good qualities...also...
we had good time ..say light moments disussing this on the board...4 a change disussing boring mil...
i think if in laws are bad we can handle them by just ignoring..or giving them back..but if husbands dont support ur life becomes helpless...i rmbr my situation whn i was newly mrrd..even though my husband is good he realised it later that his mother is cooking stories about me...but whn he use to shout at me..i rmbr i use to feel so bad..miserable..so helpless..
by gods grace he realised this on his own..otherwise i wud hv commited suicide if my mrrg wud hv falied....
n for all others who hv prob with their husband.i hv learnt from my sil...4get everything...follow ur husband like like the dog of orange network...trust me i hv seen my sil doing htat ..he r husband is literally in her hands...coz of this my mil also is scared of her...
its very very imp to hv ur husband on ur side if u hv to deal with these people...
my bil use to love her ..but after mrrg coz of my mil ..she wud poison his ears..he use to hate her..also wanted to divorce her many times...my sil really really worked hard to get his love back..n she succeeded...n i like an fool spend my 2 years running after my in laws trying to win them i 4got my husband totally..if he doesnt take me out..or ignores me ..i am responsible...coz whn he use to stop me from going out of bdrm i use to say no..i want to cook..he use to ask me out i wud say no mil is not well who will do the work..n in the end i got nothing...husbands love is veyr very imp...i hv realised this late..but i promise myself now i will only concentrate on my husband n daughter n no onw else...
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2007-11-28
#1
Anonymous Name: Ritika
Subject:  For Sonu



Dear Sonu,

This is in reply to your following questions -
\" Ritika, If you are reading this, One question for u? How many years been u r married? Were there any ups and down in ur life with him>? dont u have inlaws problems?How could u become managable !! Is this because ' u have problem solving skills' Or ' u dont have problems at all' ? \"

I' ve been married about 6 years. It was a love marriage. His parents were dead against the marriage because of caste issues (even though I' m from technically a higher caste). They relented after one year but his father never came to our marriage. His mom and some uncles/aunts came. My parents when they went to meet his parents didnt like them at all - because they were arrogant and rude to them. My mom said that the only reason she agreed for the marriage was because she knew that I would be staying away from them (in the US).

I had (and still have) MAJOR in-laws issues. After marriage, from wearing jeans and skirts, I had to wear sarees 24 hrs..and hear taunts and jeers all the time from MIL and FIL.

My MIL created loads of problems between my hubby and me by feeding lies to him about me. The first 6 months of my marriage were the most horrible. My husband believed his mom blindly and would not hear a word against her. He could not believe that his mom could be so rude or mean to me.

Every weekend, I would talk to her and she would reduce me to tears...after which my hubby would say \" she must have meant it well..you are just misinterpreting her words..or she didnt mean that..so just ignore what she said\" etc etc.

Then one day - I put her on speaker phone (without her knowledge). My hubby for the first time in his life saw his mom going from being extra sweet to him to being extra rude to me e.g. to a simple question from me - \" aap kaisi hai mummy\" , my MIL would reply in a really sarcastic tone- \" maharani itni door jakar baithi hain hum logon ko akele chod kar aur puch rahi hain ki hum kaise hai. Arre, hum maren ya jiyen, tumhe kya..tumko kya fikar\" etc.

When my hubby started listening to these words, he slowly started figuring out that his mom was not as innocent as she seemed to him and that she had a facet to her personality that he had not seen.

Then slowly he started defending me on the phone. I also started limiting my conversations to my MIL. Now I hardly talk to her. On my India visits, she invariably creates scenes and keeps blaming me for everything bad in her life. Now that my hubby supports me, I don' t feel the need to keep defending myself in front of her. The last time I asked her why always speaks in a karwa tone to me, she started crying and saying that I' m breaking her house and she was waiting for this day when I would do that..drive a wedge between mother and son..and that my parents have put me to it..and more such nonsense.

Luckily my house is in the same city, so after this natak, I left for my parents place and stayed there till the end of our vacation.

After we came back to US, I told my hubby that I will never ever go and stay with his parents again. He is ok with it. Even he was angry with them for behaving like that with me and told them so.

Before my pregnancy, she used to tell me in every conversation that why am I not getting pregnant, do I have a medical condition, she is feeling humiliated amongst her neighbors and family because after 4 yrs also, we do not have a child etc etc. After I became pregnant, she stopped asking about me or the baby. When she found out that it was girl, she totally stopped any contact. When my hubby called her from the delivery room to tell her the good news..she replied in a cold voice \" theek hai sun liya..ab phone rakho\" . She told my hubby' s other relatives that I have not yet had a baby and to the ones that did know, she said that \" itna halla karne ki koi zaroorat nahi hai..duniya mein koi pehla bachcha to nahi hai\" .

So yeah, I do have in-laws problems. :)

The way out is that I' ve stopped trying to be goody goody to her...don' t talk to her much...couldnt care less what she thinks of me..and she knows it.. :)

My hubby has changed after being with me so many years and seeing that I' m not like what his mom used to portray me as...

When we fight, I never ever let him go to sleep without a goodnight kiss. Even after our really bad fights, I would go to him, give him my good night kissi and then ada se turn away from him and go to bed. Most often than not, he would be fine in the morning.

I stopped talking to him about his parents and my parents. His mom had fed him so much against my parents also, that he has till date never stayed at my parents place for even one night.

After he told me 4 yrs back that my parents were trying to make him a ghar jamai (what the heck!), I promised to myself that I' ll never ever invite him to my parents house. So after so many years, he recently told me that he respects and admires my parents for still being so enthu in life and enjoying it. And why doesnt he stay for a few days with them the next time we go to India.. :)

So basically, the things that created top notch fights betwene us - talk of his parents and my parents - I' v ereduced to a minimum. If he has anything to say - I' ll listen, but rarely do I say anything against his mom or dad. When we go out shopping, I' ll buy gifts for them, but send it to them in my husband' s name. When his mom thanks him, he says that thank my wife, she chose and send it to you.

So that way he has gotten a good impression of me. I have always supported him - his dreams, his career aspirations..even if it meant tight finances for us for some time. I never stopped him from doing what he wanted.

I think over the years he' s realized that and appreciates that.

I think I' ve told you more than you wanted to know.. :) but sometimes thoughts are like that...they keep flowing...

Anyways...that' s all for now...:)
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2007-11-29
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Anonymous Name: sonu
Subject:  Ritika,



Yes, I´ m little bit shocked to see u had problems too.
Anyways, I have to appreciate you for being stood up for urself in life. I think, YOu are dynamic and see only positive side of life. I like it.
But, ur hubby realised atlast after an year or two.
But ,I dont think men will accept their wife so easily and can defend them when time comes. I dont know about mine. I never got situation that he can defend me... she behave extra sweet in his presence... he think mine are just assumptions not facts...If I inform anything annoying...
So ,will wait for the moment I´ ll gain trust over him (not him over me), He definitely know whta I´ m..he knows I cant lie and not having cunning nature....But I dont have trust over him...because I know what does his mother mean to him .Now, her interference is very limited in our lives...still she can control his mind...Imagine the day when she come in to actual life...??Thatsy I´ m worried . And always have suspicious eye on him....So, he gets irriated.
I know I too irritate him with my doubts(I dont exhibit directly, but he can sense when I´ m upset).

I have to mature myself to realise life and have to control my fears atleast to n´ joy presence without afraiding of the day when he turn against me. It happened only once...later, he promised me never it happen again...but my insecurities never let me stay cool....I always afraid of future..whether he stops loving me....
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2007-11-28
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Anonymous Name: gg
Subject:  hi..namita...i hv to speak to my sil



about this board...but we dont get chance to call...its been 2 days we hv not speoken to each other prop...coz mymil doesnt like us talking to eahc other at home w e behave liek strangers or some 1 who hate each other ..my mil' s starict warning to both of us not to speak or laugh ...but once we are in off ..we talk talk n talk ...if my mil comes t o know this she will gv us capital punishment..lol...we hardly get time talk..let s see....all i can tell u ...sh e is made of rock..super cool...highly mil taunts resistant...n lots of patience....i htink god has only givin her 2 ears one to listen other to trhow back...n other than she only loves loves n loves her hsuband....lol..
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2007-11-28
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Anonymous Name: sonu
Subject:  dear gg,



dear gg,
Actually ,You are correct. Whatever weakness he has, we have to love him deep from our heart. If my hubby read this post, guess what he says? ' u better spend time in some productive work than discussing love and marriage\" ! hope u got me :) !!

As for mine and my friends experiences, I believe strongly \" Men are from MARS and women are from VENUS\"
:) ! Dont u accept?

Ok, one question dear, we r being wiht him always and telling ' love u' often? do u ever get hurt if he is not doing same to u.Whether he too tell u often in words ' I love you' ?!

my hubby just shows in actions and I have to see he love me....but never utter \" I love you\" ...of course, he doesnt like saying it.) .He feel its childish... :) .he means love to be seen in actions ..he is little practical. So , I hesitate to say \" I love you\" . afraid if he feel I' m immatured\"

Is there any idea for making my hubby is like ur SIL ' s hubby that can n' joy the feel ' his wife loves him' ...then only there will be a value for my efforts !

Ritika, If you are reading this, One question for u? How many years been u r married? Were there any ups and down in ur life with him>? dont u have inlaws problems?How could u become managable !! Is this because ' u have problem solving skills' Or ' u dont have problems at all' ?



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2007-11-28
#5
Anonymous Name: gg
Subject:  hi.son u.



my husband was a romantic god b4 mrrg...he made sure that he doesnt lose me n got mrrd to me...n on honey moon he brouhg t the moon down for me with all his caring...loving n romantic talks...after 2 yeasrs i dont know where everything disappeared...
lol.....
about my sil...than pls...who doesnt like husband´ s love an d attention...but i dont want henpecked hsuband....who follows u everywhr...i will get irritated....i wud prefer well balanced perosn...
same here my husband too says he loves me...he believes in action rather than saying ..things like love u missu...blabla...i still cant believe he is the same person...whn i remind him about past...he says it was diff thing then n the biggest proof of my love is i got mrrd to u...
honestly speaking my husband 4gets me whn he is at work...he is absolutely workholic...
n we both are very practical..matured types...we both are very quite n soft in natuer...only person who messed in my life is my mil...n no one else...i dont mind if my husbnad is not so coochie coo types...whatever ur husbands natuer is u must learn to accpet it ..respect each other....acc to me a husband n wife´ s relation is above every realtion...it should be totally based on love..just as a mother loves her child unconditionally ....without any expectations...respect his nature...dont expect him to change for u...same applies to him...
in my case i think i was the one who ignored him...trust me..i come from such a family where a person nature was gving importance..not looks..or moeny...
my mil is the only such character i came across...who was so rude to..mei ddnt know how to tackle her...hoenestly...u can say i was mentally disturbed...for 1 year..lol...now i am back to normal...

i totally agree with Dd..in fact i wud like to add...if u hv a fight with ur husband keep it btwn u ...whn ur out in front of others u dont hv to show ur upset with himm by not talking to him...or if he ask for water for eg..u refuse to gv him...
one thing is very imp about ever man...they hv ego prob s n never hurt thrie ego....
about my sil ..then she use to follow him everwhr like a tail...like a servant ...he use to hit her...after hitting her if he use to get tired n ask for water she wud run to get it...n on other hand my mil use to yell who will do this work...but madam wud trun deaf ear...she really worked hard ..hats off to her patience...now he is totally with her...

i can understand going thru al this rubbish all the time a normal person can go mad ..staying with my mil...then i can understna my husbands situation too....this is alo a phase in our life which will pass soon hopefully....
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2007-11-28
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Anonymous Name: Dd
Subject:  hi



Hi Sonu,

I feel like talking about some of the positives.

my dh does not believe mil-sil when they say things about me or criticize my behaviour but always tries to see my point of view.

He does express his love with actions but also says ´ i love you ´ frequently. when i say i love u too he says 3,4,5..........(lol)
Way back in our courting days (6months between angagemnt & marriage) he use to give me ´ i love u´ cards every sunday when we use to go out. ours was arranged marriage, and i had said yes after 2 meetings but nevr said ´ i love you´ back in those 6 motnhs. i used to write ´ i like u´ only when occasionally I use to give him card.

He is also very appricative of my efforts to look after his family in all these years.

he is very good cook & cooks when ever he finds time. he likes to clean the house & does that also at times.

he takes me to my parents house whenever I ask him to.

He is very friendly with my family. parents, brother, sister´ s family. he does not mind socialising with my friend´ s family.
there is lot more but i guess i should stop here otherwise u people will get bored.
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2007-11-28
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Anonymous Name: sonu
Subject:  cheer up!



Namita,
Just out of insecurity feeling,You are down today .Actually nothing is serious about her. ..she cant do anything to ur relation ...

I experience manytimes this very feeling.

In my early married days ,I would have rated my hubby 10+ . He was that caring and loving...my neighbours were very admiring our relation...
But after 2yrs of marriage one big incident has been created by mil and my heart broken . I think even he lost love for me during those days ...and not able to regain back.I tried hard to forget those days when he couldnt stand up for me,Instead believed bad and madly in them...
Now he has changed and not encouraging complaints about me...Still I have insecurities deep inside me....So ,result is ' rating 5' in my own post. Or else, like Dd, I would have ignored the anger .Even my hubby behave little less when he is angry (leaves sarcastic comments, doesnt yell or shout) very similar behaviour with her hubby.Yes dear, When I read Dd' s post I found very similar behaviour makes me annoyed. Still she rated 9 ...but I rated 5 because these insecurities warn me to not to be over-confident on him...So I' m little tensed always....He always believe in her rules and norms...He believe in anything she cooks up without thinking logically....If I tell anything about them...definitely look aroung my talks though I' m honesta nd dont reallly tell my assumptions. I just tell only facts, still he blame...thinks mine are assumptions...ok, still I love him for his positives...and never ever get feel of seperation..Even he never had such feeling.
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2007-11-28
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Anonymous Name: Namita
Subject:  thanks



thanks a lot ... ur first line have encouraged me .... jst below i hve written to Dd that i dnt feel like goign home now .... bt ur lines have given me some confidence that she cant do anything .. thanks again .... i m glad that we all r there 2 help each other
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2007-11-28
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Anonymous Name: Namita
Subject:  hi



y dnt u ask ur SIL to join this board ... i want to learn from her ... evn i do some mistakes and hence i m scare that my MIL will some b succeded in makin her son against me ... as u said in Sonu' s thread that \" ur MIL' s biggest dream of life is to see ur husaband hitting u\" same story is with me and MIL literally tells my husband that u r toooo linent with her ... she want my husband to scold me, abuse me, hit me .... she actually makes such comments to irritate him that i m under pressure that now he will behave same
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2007-11-28
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Anonymous Name: Namita
Subject:  thanks



i do follow everything ... i know to certain extent our life is going same ... as u said " we feel so strong about ourselves & our relationships & other days we r vary insecure" i dnt know y this happens ... today i m very down i dnt feel like going to that home ... abt the points u have mentioned i do follow them ..... when my MIL tell him abt. being linent, earlier he use b aggresive bt now he ignore ... bt still at times i feel insecure that someday he vl come up again n now i dnt have strength to fix everything and fight back .. so i pray to god to keep us happy n let him not change his nature .... u all pls. pray for me
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2007-11-28
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Anonymous Name: Dd
Subject:  hi



Hi Namita,

we r so alike somedays we feel so strong about ourselves & our relationships & other days we r vary insecure. in my case its only my dh´ s hot temper bothers me otherwise no one else can come between us. few times during that angry phase he has asked me to walkout of his life which i ahve not done so far, and i always used to think if we cross 10th wedding aniversary than we will be together forever and it is coming in next february so i am quite happy.

as far your problems, i don´ t have exact solutions but let me share few golden rules, some of which my close friend told me at the bigning of my marriage.

1. Don´ t ever fight in 3rd person´ s present(whoever it si or how ever close that person is to u or to your dh.) if arguments starts stay in control & try to put it off for later

2. Whenever u have fights or arguments with dh, don´ t let him walk out of the room, however angry he or u are. even after a very heated fight sleep next to him & cuddle him(this was my friend´ s advice & i have always followed it & i find it very useful to break ice afterwards.)

3. Don´ t directly criticise your inlaws or his friends unleass u both share same view about that person. tell him about whoever is bothering in a tone that u r just venting your fustration & not complaining.

4. Sympathise with him when he is upset about their behaviour but don´ t strat talking nagetives about them a lot.

5. Be very very supportive when he is going thru problems in professional or personal field. be acomodative & let him know every now & than that u love him more than anything will support him all the time.


one question - how your dh reacts when she says he is linent with u?
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