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2005-05-13
Name: Padma



Dear friends,
I have a unique problem. I had been married for 6 years and have two kids. The first two years of my marriage were horrible for me. My hubby and his fmily treated me like a slave. I wanted to win the love of my hubby badly. I would do any thing for him. But he would never give it back to me.
I got pregnant soon after I got married and was ill treated all along. I was not allowed to go to my parents and my parents were not allowed to visit me. My husband called his friends over for dinner almost every night and I had to cater to them. He said I was too boring. He called me stupid in front of his friends and parents. I was always worried about what he was going to do next to make me cry. When I was in labor, he drove me to the hospital and slept in the same room. I never had one happy moment to cherish during my entire pregnancy.
I started working when my little boy was ready for his preschool. Things turned around since then. I gained a lot of respect in the family. My husband started to take good care of me and my kids since then. I also had my second child while i was still working and my hubby was very supportive during the entire time.
Thgough every thing is so smooth, I am not able to be happy. My past haunts me. I am not able to forget every thing that happened - every hurtful word that my husband said to me. I remember all the unpleasant things and get depressed. I love my hubby a lot. I don't want to withold my love towards him now because of what he had done in the past. Can any one tell me what I can do to forget my past and live in the present? Thanks in advance for your replies.
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2005-05-24
#1
Anonymous Name: I'm a guy too
Subject:  GOD! You are irrepairably spoiled !!!



It is not your fault! It is your parents that spoiled you. I think every Indian parent should learn from this not to bring up their children with the dirty ideas such as Shiv has. Marriage is not about \";running the show\"; . Marriage is about two people loving each other. By the way, I am a man too. My wife stays home to take care of my son. I admire her for the great job she is doing. No body's life comes with a 100 year guarantee. Thinking that we will die the very next day does not give us the licence to verbally abuse our life partner. That was one classic lame excuse Man! But it is not your fault. You were raised with such dirty ideas like a man deserves respect and a wife does not. I love my wife just the way she is. I do not expect her to forget her folks for me and yes, I will support her and will not let my parents evaluate her. Sleeping while a wife is in labor -- I've never heard of that before. I didn't know anyone could ever actually do that! You've come up with an explanation for that dirty selfish act? I really don't know what to say.
I want to let ladies out there know that all men are not like Shiv. Please keep the hopes alive.
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2005-05-26
#2
Anonymous Name: brave girl
Subject:  Thanks Guys !



Hi " A guy" and "another guy",

I am glad that you guys expressed your sensible and mature views !! I appreciate your gesture. Yes, I agree that all men are not alike. There are many who are good husbands,good fathers and good brothers and you both are surely among them. I am sure if your wives read your messages, they will feel like top of the world. I can tell you for sure, that every woman dreams of a husband who has views like you guys. I too have a lot of respect for those men, who respect women, be it a wife, a mother or a sister. And you both admire your wives so much, appreciate them for raising your kids ...I must tell you that your wives are very lucky !!

The line "I will not let my parents evaluate her" touched my heart. I think this is a classic example of true companionship. Even I expect the same thing from my hubby, although its a different story that his parents always criticize me and I always wonder that why can't he stop them. Although I know that my hubby is a nice fellow, but can not question his parents negative & mean thinking. He also knows that many times his parents are unresonable, but can not do anything !

I also feel that people like Shiv are a curse to our society and they have been spoiled by their parents & their narrow minded thinking. They are so self-centered that they can never understand a woman's feeling. They treat their wife like a slave.

I couldn't believe when Padma wrote about her hubby- how he was sleeping when she was delivering their baby. How could he do that ? I was really shocked and I am amazed that inspite of all this suffering Padma is still managing.

Mr Shiv, you have showed your real character by expressing third class & dirty views. I am ashamed to acknowledge that you are a part of our society. God knows how you will treat your wife, your daughter and one day your daugher in law.

If you have guts then you must apologize to Padma. You have not only hurt Padma, but you have hurt all of us, our feelings and our emotions.

To understand what we are going through, you should lead a woman's life. Imagine yourself as a woman, who leaves her parents home and goes to her hubby's place thinking that he would always support her. And then she has to bear all sarcastic and rude comments from her in-laws and her Hubby makes it even worse when he hides behind his mom-dad. They never leave a chance to torture her emotionally. What a shame! You call yourself Man !

I have no words to explain your personality...I think such low & mean words don't even exist which could describe a person like you.

May God help you and one day you become a better person.
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2005-05-23
#3
Anonymous Name: rashmi
Subject:  divorce



divorce him and get over with it.
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2005-05-23
#4
Anonymous Name: OH
Subject:  Man !



God Shiv! You really need some serious professional help.
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2005-05-20
#5
Anonymous Name: shiv
Subject:  How to forget



Dear Padma or whatever your real name is,
Calling friends every night for dinner -I think is a lie.

You mentioned of being boring - Were you or were you not? Are you still boring? Did you ever ask yourself whether people who keep company with you are happy. What extra thing have you done to keep you and your family happy?
How many days did you stay with your in-laws that you tell that they treated you like a slave?

Did you ever think in the following terms :
(1) May be your husband wanted you to be independent?
(2) Wanted you to run the show but you were more self-centred only caring for your needs and your mothers and fathers needs?
(3) I hope you are married into a good family.
(4) May be after you started working you are able to take better decisions and act independently which your husband is seeing and is happy that he does not have to worry if he is going to be dead the very next day. Earlier it might have been that he was worrying that you cannot survive in this world with such dumb viewpoints like world is straight and all people are very very straight like my father or mother are. Believe me they are also not that straight.
(6) Sorry to hear that he slept during the first pregnancy. Was he also not tired?

It is very difficult to forget your past. If you think like every other girl out there that life is going to be as beautiful as depicted in pictures then you are a fool. Check with everyones life - God has installed a portion of unhappiness in each being.

I still believe that you are more self-centered and that is the reason you feel that way.
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2005-05-23
#6
Anonymous Name: A guy
Subject:  Hey man !



I am a man and I can tell you that you are not a reasonable person. I love my wife for the wonderful person she is. I never tried to judge her. I love her with all my heart and I can't thank her enough for making me the father of my three beautiful kids. I will never let any one say a word against her. Husbands are supposed to be pain relief Man! They should not be a pain to thier wives. With your view points, you will never be able to find your soul mate. You will only be able to find a maid that works for you and your happiness. Best of luck with your nasty attitude buddy!
All women out there - please do not think that all men think the way shiv does, there are still lot of us who think differently.
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2005-05-23
#7
Anonymous Name: brave girl
Subject:  Just go away you insensitive man !!!!!!!!!



SHIV- You are a wonderful example of MCP- Male Chauvnistic Pig !!! AND BY THE WAY WHY ARE YOU ON WOMEN'S ISSUES BOARD??? Please think like a human being who has a heart ! You have no feelings & respect for others. Just go away from here and be a nice person in life. Padma came here to find solace & sympathy and you have done a good job !!! I am pretty sure (if you r married) then your wife is also suffering like any other troubled DIL who has to deal not only with interfering & dominating in-laws but also a jerk like you !!

How can you comment on someone's personality without even knowing her ??? How can you be so sure that Padma is at fault?? If you were in her place, then you would have a totally different story.

And you are talking about her husband's tiredness when she is in the hospital ?? I wonder if you really have a heart or no Or I should say God forgot to give you one ?? How could you even think of such a silly & dirty excuse ?? A man sleeping while his wife is going through the labour pain, delivering this man's child ?? If you were a woman, then you would have known how painful it is !!! Would you have said the same thing to your MOM, if she was in the labour & your father sleeping in the same room? I am sure- NO !! Guys like you are so selfish who can only think about himself.

I sincerely pray to GOD, that no girl should get a husband like you.

You must apologize to Padma.
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2005-05-20
#8
Anonymous Name: chuchu
Subject:  People like shiv are a curse to the society



Do you see any sense in your reply to that lady? She is here to find help and support, not some dumb justification for a rude inconsiderate behaviour. I am so glad my hubby does not think the way you do.
I enjoyed my pregnancy a lot. He is full of surprises. When I was preg with my first kid, he used to give me lots and lots of hugs and kisses. When I was in labor, we held my hands and breathed with me through each contraction. By the way, we worked 12 hours that day. Does it matter how tired you are when your wife is in pain delivaring your baby? You are such a big jerk. I really hope you are not married. If you are, I pity your wife. I am amazed at the tolerance of Padma. I could never live with such a character.
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2005-05-20
#9
Anonymous Name: anita
Subject:  Crazy guy --- get out of here



From your reply, we can all see that you are not basically a good person. How could you justify that disgusting attitude of the poor lady's husband? It amazes me that she still loves him. If I were his wife, I would have divorsed him and taken him to court. And how in the world could you call her a fool and self-centered? Are you mad? She is a typical indian lady and she is married into a typical indian family where the inlaws think that it is their right to walk all over her. Go to the Role of Inlaws board and see how many DILs are suffering because of their inlaws. What made you ask her what else she had done for your family? What else she has to do? If you are thinking of getting married any time soon, re consider your thought. No girl will like your rude nature. I repeat - No one will like you. Women come to this board to find help and support. If you have nothing to offer, just get lost!
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2005-05-17
#10
Anonymous Name: Padma
Subject:  Thank you !



Thanks to you all for your valuable thoughts.
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2005-05-16
#11
Anonymous Name: Anon
Subject:  My point is..



this why indian women have such low self esteem and live on and on suffering because the advise you always get is move on, forget about it, he is ok now with you so forgive and forget.

In my advise I did not ask her to divorce her husband or show anger but she needs to confront him regarding his behaviour in the past and tell him off whatever is on her mind. Then only she can move on and feel better about herself. Also warn him that if ever he behaves with her in such a way in the future she will not accept it.

That is a true woman, one who doesn't get pushed around by people and shows that she is strong and no one will dare hurt you.
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2005-05-18
#12
Anonymous Name: a
Subject:  indian men



Hey i don't know how much your advice will work..to confront,or warn.b'coz these men(most of them) will never agree verbaly even though they know they are wrong.if they are guilty they will change by behaviour.but they will never tell sorry.about warning they might take it in nagative way.straight forward method won't work with these kind of men.
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2005-05-16
#13
Anonymous Name: forgive
Subject:  I can understand



Your past can haunt you. Try to forgive and forget. Try meditational yoga it always helps.
Has your husband shown remorse for his behaviour? Has he verbally asked for forgiveness? That might make a big difference. Have you told him what you have written here? You can diplomatically tell him that you feel hurt and cannot move past that.
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2005-05-16
#14
Anonymous Name: Ami
Subject:  How can u...



How can you love your husband after he has called you stupid infront of his family and friends? He had no respect for you. The minute you started working and bringing money in the house he started to treat you better. During your first pregnancy which is supposed to be the happiest time in your life he treated you like dirt and didn't care for you. The most vulnerable point in a woman's life.

To be very honest I wouldn't be able to forget nor forgive such a man. Tomorrow if you are jobless, he will start treating you like dirt again.

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2005-05-16
#15
Anonymous Name: a
Subject:  what is your point?



What should she do for past?..i think it's better for her to think good parts of his behavior, and be happy about it.nobody's life will be perfect, right now she showed him that she has capability to live independently, definately even though she will not have job, still chances to treat her like dirt will be less.more over as year passes by husbands lean on wife unknowingly.thier is no point in fighting back or showing anger now, it will make her situation worst.
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2005-05-14
#16
Anonymous Name: friend
Subject:  hey !



Just to tell you I was very touched to read ur story...i am am really sorry but I donno what to say now.....I just wish you good luck with ur husband and kids,
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