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Hi Friends,
First of all , let me say 'Welcome back' to abx. But abx, I felt so sad after reading your message on the board. I don't know what to say to convince you. In fact, today I am in mood that I would be requiring some good consoling words from you all my friends.

What happened is, I had a big argument with my husband. It’s about, what else, other than the in-laws. I think we all have some problem, something which we don’t like about our in-laws. My hubby and his brother got married at the same year with few months apart. Initially, even now my in-laws are good with me. They don’t say anything harsh or anything in front of my hubby. Even when he is not there they respect me and talk nicely all that. This all changed when I had my baby. First when they saw my parents coming here for my delivery, they started showing long faces to my Mom and Dad. According to my parents, they didn’t get well with my parents after their trip to US. After my parents left we asked my in-laws to come and we had them for 6 months and we took them to all nice places (Washington, NY..etc) too.

But later (last year) when we all went to India for a few weeks vacation, I saw it in real. My MIL didn’t talk to my Mom nicely and all the time she was saying some sarcastic things in common and was praising the other DIL. She even complained to my husband alone about me on some silly things. Even my FIL was there in that room. My husband got so upset about that and he told me about that there itself after I asked him few time what happened, and added that we will change according to their expectations, after all they are my parents. I didn’t say anything other than Yes. But I told him that it (talking about me on my back) hurts me a lot. During this trip My Mom too conveyed to me that they are not treating them well nowadays. I thought it all must be because the other son (my hubby’s brother) didn’t have a child yet. After all they are old parents of him. I also told to my Mom, It’s alright mom, I hope everything will be OK when the other DIL get a child. I didn’t express anything much to them though I was crying rest of my vacation inside my heart.

Last year when we went we had some financial problems. So, we let them spend for the small function we had at the house for piercing my daughter’s ears. They called some people (not a very big crowd) and put 1 meal to everyone. That’s it. They were telling they spent this much, that much..lot fo work for them to do/arrange for this. Here, I have to mention that when we were doing good financially, my husband sent them lot of money (few lakhs) before and after our wedding. And this was the first time we wanted them to spend as we were so tight and they didn’t do it willingly, though they pretended that they did. Before the function when we were all discussing about this venue, date..etc. I asked my in-laws, can we do that in a hotel, if it’s a problem to call big crowd to home. For that my MIL raised her voice and said so harshly, I am telling you, I don’ t what else you do, the function needs be at home ONLY. My parents were also there with my husband and in-laws. I simply accepted thinking that they wanted to do it in the house. Like these, small small incidents hurt me through out the entire trip, but I didn’t show up and acted that I am happy.

Now, my BIL (my hubby’s brother) had a baby and they have booked a big hotel in a near by town and called about 120 people and did ‘Naming ceremony’. They have printed ‘Invitations’ and all. Now, I am wondering, where did they get the money from? When they spent some amount for my child’s function they were telling to my hubby that, ‘This and all is big amount’ to spent. But the same people spent more than that, just for the naming ceremony. How about that.? When the new born baby is the grand baby to them, so does mine, right?!! Then why partiality? This is all I am asking.

So, today I started telling my hubby about how I feel about this whole situation. But as you know, like all husbands do, my husband is not agreeing with me at all. He says what his parents do is correct. More over, in the argument he mentioned that they (his parents) said some bad things about my Parents, that my parents are not giving enough respect to his. Did you see how this goes now. Then , I was forced to tell him that what my Mom was telling me about the respect what his parents are giving to her and to my Dad. Then we went on and on …. and to a big fight. Now when I tried to say something to him, he said ‘My mind is not well’ and he went and slept. Friends, tell me here what did I do wrong? I was telling him my views about how his Parents are being Partial with one son to the other son. I wanted him to just understand it, not to do anything about it. For that he said that his parent’s statements about my Parents. Then I had to tell him how my Mom told me about his.

Then how come, only he has the right to stay calm and not talking to me. I am not going to talk to him either. What am I going to miss? Nothing, other than we will be wasting one month by not trying for the baby which we both wanted to have soon. My fertile week is this week. But I am so hurt and I too don’t want to talk to him until he comes forward to talk to me. What do you all say?

I know it’s a very very L…O…….N…….G message. But I don’t have any other close friends to vent this out. As we all became closer in the last few weeks, I just felt like writing everything to you and get your opinions/views on it. Please reply to me. Awaiting your reply.

Hi tensed, friend and of course nicemom,
I am now settled fully in my new house, though i(we) are not fully happy in the new area. Though the house is spacious, the people around and also the day cares around arent so very satisfactory, but since we have signed up the lease for one year, we have to stay back atleast till then. First of all thanks for the diwali wishes and my belated diwali wishes to all of u!!!!
And friend, glad that u all had a blast for the halloween, and went out trick or treatign.
BTW my life is still a mess. 2 days, back my hubby again dragged a silly matter. It was very simple. I wasn't at home when he came back, and was a saloon which is very much within our apt itself, i.e. in the 2nd floor and me in the 11th floor. That egoistic person found it humilitiang to come and pick up the keys from the salloon. I was terribly frustrated at his attitude.
What was so difficult in taking the lift, and fetching the keys from me. He started yelling at me saying "stop all this loafing around with ur daughter, over here and there." and stay back at home when i come. And then started shouting at me terribly . I got frustrated and stopped talking to him completely. The next day, he is telling me that he is going to pack me up to india, once and for all, and says, herafrter he will take care only of his daughter's needs, and is going to neglect me completely. I started crying, and felt so helpless, but i wanted to punish him in some way or other, coz i culdn't take the mental torture anymore. So immeidately i took the phone and called up my parents, and cried out all my pains to them, right in his presence. I told my parents that this man is not allowing me to live peacefully, and is mentally toruturing me and not attending to any of my needs. I cried out to my father saying, papa please take me with u., i don't want to live with this man., and hence my parents, grew terribly worried about me. Then this man felt guilty but still said"this is the only thing that u din't do so far and now u have even started doing it, i'll see to it that i pack u up fully to india.
Then i gathered some courage this morning, and blasted that man left and right. I told him he was not a good husband to me right from the begining, and even until my pegnanacy and even aftr the birth of my child. To tell u the truth this man never even came to the name giving ceremeony of his own daughter just because, the function was held in my parents place. I told him that i too would be delighted to go down to india for a long vacation. and then in the end, he patched up.
But the mental trauma i underwent was terrible, I feel sick with this person. But still i don't feel i have any love or repect for this man in my life. Today he put an end to it and again t'rrw he will find a new reason to quarrel. Now i am just waiting to go down to india, and cry out out my feelings to my parents, and realax a bit with my parents. That's the only relief i believe i have in store.
So tensed how are things at ur end, Doing good. Write soon, bye

Hi abx, nicemom and friend,
Wish you all a very happy diwali and prosperous new year. Bye for now
Tensed

Hi Nicemom,
What a coincidence?!! My daughter too was dressed up like a Princess!. She really loved her costume so much. With that I had bought her a Tiara to put on the head, in which some stone work with pearls were done. I made her wear my Pearl necklace to match with that and she looked pretty. I too had so much fun with her yesterday. (This was the first year I took her out for Trick or Treating). Last year also, I bought her costume (Pumpkin) but didn't go out as she was too little. She also had the 'Costume Parade' at her day-care school. I made small packets with some toys (tiny spiders, bats) and candies for all her friensds at school. She got so much candies yesterday (in the Trick or Treating) so that at one point she asked me to carry the candy bucket as it was too heavy for her. : )

Looks like you are going to be busy celebrating your daughter's birthday this weekend. Ya, you can't cook all the time for the big crowd you know. We too catered food from an Indian restaurant for my daughter's second birthday party. OK, Nicemom, My Birthday Wishes to your Daughter. Have fun!

Once again, Wishing you all a Very Happy Diwali !!

hi friend,
yeah, yesterday i went trick or treating with my daughter. we came back home twice to empty out out bucket!! and actually speaking i was was having as much fun as my daughter!!:) in the morning she ahd a parade and a party in school. what did your kid dress up as?...mine was a princess and she loved the head gear and all that!!
this sat we are having a party , dinner, for friends and family. celebrating my dd's 3rd b'day which wa son 29th oct. getting everything catered froma restauarnt this time!! can't cook all that much...35 people!!!!
HAPPY DIWALI TO ALL OF YOU.....FRIEND, ABX AND TENSED!!

ABX, I HOPE YO ARE GOING TO COME BACK!!! WAITING

Hi Everyone,
How are you all doing? There is a big silence from all of us during the last one week. All of a sudden, We all got busy in something, I guess. I know abx must be very busy in her packing and moving to the new house. Hi abx and Nicemom, hope your daughters had fun in the Halloween's Trick or Treat yesterday. My daughter enjoyed it very much. I took her out for Trick or Treating and she had lots of fun with her friends in the neighborhood. For me, It's going to be busy this weekend too. We have a get to gather in one friend's house and I am planning to make some sweets and snacks for Diwali.

Wishing you and your family a Happy Diwali.!!

Hi Everyone,
How are you all doing? There is a big silence from all of us during the last one week. All of a sudden, We all got busy in something, I guess. I know abx must be very busy in her packing and moving to the new house. Hi abx and Nicemom, hope your daughters had fun in the Halloween's Trick or Treat yesterday. My daughter enjoyed it very much. I took her out for Trick or Treating and she had lots of fun

Hi Tensed,

First of all, congratulations on your job extension. Do you know how hard it's now to get another/new job? Because of the bad economy the job market is still down. So, now you got the job, I am really happy for you. Like abx had mentioned at one time, when you are working you don't have to spend a lot of time with your in-laws when they are here. Obviously you got that happened. Good for you.

Then, I got to say that, how much I was amazed to see your reply (on the baby boy part). Wow, you already had gathered all these for your 2nd baby try!! Anyway, thanks a lot for the tips and thanks for your wishes too. I sure will try to follow the ones which I can. Actually when I was telling about these things (all the old time
believes..etc) to my husband, he simply smiled and said, it's all depends on what God is going to give to us. But still just for the fun of it, we are thinking of giving it a try as far as we can. Like we discussed, nothing harm in trying you know! : )

All right girls, We have got a dinner party planned tonight. On the weekend, there is going to be a halloween party with few other kids in the neighbourhood. I am really looking forward to that, as I am going to
take my little one to the party, all dressed up. Whatever your plans for the weekend are, you all have a very nice weekend. Bye everyone.

Hi all,
My good news is that I have been put up in another department for some other project, so will be here for another 6 months or more. Lucky for me. Tensed, my in-laws are coming next month in the 3rd or 4th week. But I dont have much to worry now as my job has been extended. I read ur mail about having a second baby. I know the episode of ur back pain in India. Yes, it will be best if u do a checkup with ur doctor and see about ur back problem. And about having a baby here or in India, thats a very difficult decision for u. I dont have a good advice about what u should do but even if u decide for a second one, this time be firm and dont let ur fil meddle in it.
We too are moving in the first week of nov in a two bedroom apt. So have a lot of work to do. I feel very tired by the time I come home, so my husband only does all of the packing and other stuff. I only have to do the kitchen stuff. He wanted to do all that too but I said I will do it. If he does, it will be difficult for me to know which masala is kept in which box and all that, so its better to handle the kitchen myself.
Friend, I read about ur wish to have a baby boy. I have a few tips (took from the net) which u could try. Of course, I too dont believe in such things, but in this case whats the harm in trying. I have been saving all these methods and points so that I too can use it for my second one. Like u, I too want a pair of kids, so will try it during my second one. Of course, its a long time for me...
Anyway, here's the tips:-
Your child is what you eat:
According to folk wisdom, what you put in your body before conceiving may affect what comes out nine months later.
If You Want a Boy...
> Eat more meat (the redder the better).
> Stick with salty snacks -- pretzels, chips, and so on.
> Dads-to-be: Stock up on soda (especially cola drinks).

The joy of sex:
Quite a few old wives' tales about sex selection involve theories about the best way to make love if you want to influence your baby's gender.
If You Want a Boy...
> Lie down after sex and stay there for a while. Supposedly that gives the boy sperm a chance to beat the girl sperm to the egg.
> Make love standing up.
> Try the rear-entry position.
> Focus on his pleasure -- if the male partner climaxes first, you're supposedly guaranteed a boy.
> Give in to seduction -- if the man is the one to suggest some baby-making, you'll get a boy.
> Gals, sleep to the left of your partner.

It's all in the timing...or the direction:
In a society where lots of people still rely on their daily horoscope for guidance, is it any surprise that superstition and folklore also dictate when to make love if you want to pick your baby's sex?
If You Want a Boy...
> Make love when there's a quarter moon in the sky.
> Have sex at night.
> Mark your calendar -- more boys are conceived on odd days of the month.
> Follow the compass -- one of our users swears that pointing the woman's head north while you make love guarantees a boy.

Just plain way out there...
Some sex selection folklore defies categorization. For instance, some say that if the hairline at the base of your last child's neck is a ducktail, your next baby will be a girl; if it's straight across, prepare for a boy. Another story says that the baby's sex is determined by which partner is dominant in the relationship at the time of conception.

Hope u find something suitable for u and try it. If it really works, do let me know. Till then all the best to u.
Abx, Nicemom and Friend, thanks for telling me about the labour pains. I had heard here its not that bad but still had some doubt in mind. Even though I dont like it, I will have to go thru it. Thanks for the tips.
Bye girls and keep writing.
Tensed

Hi abx, Thanks for your wishes. My little one is 2.7 yrs old now. She goes to a day-care nearby my house. Like I had mentioned in my previous message as we both agree on the 'Right age gap' between the siblings we decided to go for it in this year itself. If I get to conceive in this year itself, the next one will be somehwere around in 3.5 yrs gap in between. But we don't know how soon it will click though. Anyway, I am going to be an optomistic in this and let's hope everything will go fine.

As per your questions, I don't know the full story behind your bad back pain. But I know about the pain as you had mentioned in your recent replies to Tensed in this board. Anyway, the step you are thinking of doing is a very correct thing to do. I mean, having a complete checkup with your doctor in India. Then when you get a yes as an answer you can go for the second one. My best wishes for you to get a green light from the doctors.

Looks like you must be busy getting ready to make a move. All the best for your move. Happy packing!

First of all "all the best" to u friend, to try for a boy. I hope u succeed!!! Its good that u r planning to try shortly. How old is ur daughter btw. Does she go to the day care?
And tensed how are things at ur side. How's ur job doing. ANy chances of it getting extended. Btw i had posted a message about my dialemma for going in for the next baby. What do u all say to it. And tensed when are u expecting ur in laws at ur place. We have done almost 50% of our packing and will be moving by this weekend. Hope everything goes well.
Catch u up soon and waiting for ur replies. bye

Hi Nicemom,
Thanks for your wishes and also for passing the baby dust! : )
I too did lot of reading to this site and found the same thing you said here ,that is trying on the 13th and 14th day. I checked the chinese cal as well. Anyway, as having a boy as the second child is just an additional thing to us, comparing to having another child, which is more important, we are kind of taking it easy. Still just for fun, I thought of trying it as it's your only chance to experiment you know. ( I mean you can not go on having babies to try all these fun/belieives, Right?!!)

Like you said, having another girl baby would reduce a lot in buying new stuffs! But, by the same time by having a boy you would experience both raising a Girl and a Boy!!. Anyway, we both are not keen on any gender in particular, but because I wanted to give it a try, my husband agreed with me. : ) Even for me and my husband having the second baby in the right age gap is a big thing. I said 4 yrs and he said less than 3.5 yrs and I agreed with him and now both are ready.

Thanks for your advice on having a check-up with my ob/gyn before I get ready. Yes, I have already visited her and found evrything is fine. Because I had some tooth problem, I waited till this month to try as I wanted to fix my tooth problem before I conceive. OK. Nicemom. Take care and keep in touch.

hi,
thanks for the wishes !!
just to answer your question ...we didn't do much to try for a boy. combination of the chinese cal and the ovulation cal. i've read it in many boards here and also a few sites that sex on the 13th and 14th day is best for having a boy child. thats b'coz the y chromos stay alive for 24 to 48 hrs only, so thats the time qhen the ovum is dicharged too.
we actually didn't think about all that much, b'coz even after doing all so much, i've seen many couples having the other gender kid.
so that doesn't bother us at all. we just wanted th age gap betw the 2 kids right. if it was not going to happen in a few months , we would have stopped trying, b'coz then i didn't want a gap more than 4 yrs.

i'll be more than happy to have another girl b'coz i've got so much things for a girl. so its can a be a money saving boon too. but may be my hubby is looking fwd for a boy...no idea. he has never ever said it aloud and he wouldn't do that!!

so when are you starting the baby dance? this is the right time for you too, na? just before you start, go for your anuual tot eh ob/gyn. i did that and when the doc said my cervix was great and everythingw as good, we started thinking.
it took me a long time to decided actually whether to go for the second child or not.

anyways, best of luck to you and alos passing some baby dust...*******

Hi Nicemom, Congratulations on your pregnancy. By the time your babay is born, your girl will be 3 months less to 4 yrs, right!. That's perfect age gap I think. Take care. Since your Mom is here you should be OK.
Since we all became friends now, if you don't mind can I ask you one thing?@! As you already have a little girl, when you were trying for this one, did you try any specific method to conceive a boy?! The reason, why I am asking this is, 3 couples here in our neighbourhood, who delivered their second babies 2 years back, all had only BOYS! They all have already a GIRL. Since I have a girl, when I plan for the next one, I thought if there is any method, food I can take to conceive a boy, I would really love to give it a try. Though me and my husband we both love girl babies, I thought having a pair (1 Girl & 1 Boy ) would be great, Isn't it?!. Anyway, shed some lights on this topic. Hi abx, yes I am a south Indian too. My daughter is 2 1/2 years right now. we have a plan in our mind to go for the second baby sometime in the near future.(probably next yr). Because my brother had his baby (less than a year right now) My mom can't come here right away to help me immediately. Same with my mother in-law too. My co-sister is going to have a baby in the next month or so. When I am thinking of having a pregnancy without any help, with an active toddler at home, I feel a bit tensed! But, as I really wanted to have one more, I will go for it anyway. Hi Tensed, Good luck to you to get another job soon and for your future baby plans!!

hi girls,
i'm 5 weeks preg and feeling very fine. no m/s nor fatigue or sleepyness, etc. but for my first i had a lot of m/s and vommitting. so i'm crossing my fingers that i feel like this for a long time. luckily i have my mom here...extended her stay and so she and my hubby help me a lot with my kiddo.
tensed, come on don't get scarred of labor pains...you can always take an epidural like me !!!!! i had a very comfortable labor and delivery. its just that after the little one is born the greatest task of life begins. i'm sure abx and friend will agree to this statement of mine.
abx, thank god there are no major earthquakes in your life at the moment with hubby or the in-laws.
bye for now

Hey friend and tensed,
good to learn that u guys agree that i did the right thing. And u know, i played his dad's message and showed it to my hubby after he returned from office yesterday, just as piece of proof, coz if i say this he wouldn't believe me, my hubby din't react much, but just had a guilty look on his face and his face had shrunk. I was really very happy, coz i had showed him the evidence. , he din't agree that his dad was wrong, but atleast din't say anything.he was dumb.
WEll tensed reg the 2nd baby, i too would like to go in for the next one, but i have some hiccups in that.
1. first is my backpain, as i need to get a certifcate from the ortho and gynaec as well from india, when i go this time, to know, if i am really healthy enough to bear the second one, I hope u know about the back pain episode which i underwent due to my fil's domination in the hospital.
2. The next thing is that, from next sept, my daughter will start going to jr. kindergarten, so i might have to apply leave for her, for 2-3 mths to have my delivery in india, which is impossible. I don't think any school might give her so many days of leave
3. Thirdly, if i wish to have my delivery here, then my parents must come here, but since they have taken so much of shit behaviour from my hubby, they don't wish to come to his(our) house, that's why my mom, is telling, When ur hubby dosen't repect us a bit, how can we come to ur house, and hence she is asking me to come down to madras, for the 2nd ones delivery, but again, i don't know if i can take so many days, leave for my girl from school.
So i am in a total fix, and really don't understand what to do. I would love to have the 2nd one, but i have so many problems, reg that.
Tell me ur suggestions girls, what would u do in my postioon. What could be the solution for all this. Any good idea, is welcome..
And tensed, don't worry about the labor pain and all. Only if u had ur delivery like me in india , it will be traumatic, as they don't normally give u epidirals, but in the u.s. they give u epidurals right away, and also take care of u so well, and if u need a c section, they won't hesitate to do it. So don't worry, U won't have a difficult delivery at all in the u.s. The pain killers will fully help u. But i remember u said, that u don't wish to conceive when ur in laws are areound with u. That's correct. So once they leave, plan ur baby. All the best.
WAiting for ur replies. Btw friend, r u a south indian too.

Hi everyone,
I got a chance to read the messages from work. Nicemom, congratulations to u. Great to hear the good news. I had read the messages in the other board abt a second pregnancy. Good to know u went ahead with it. So how u feeling. How many days is it? Abx, even u were thinking about it, isnt it. So abx, u too give us ur good news soon.... Regd mine, guess we will be trying next year. Actually I'm a bit scared about the thought of delivery pain and all that stuff. But I love babies. So lets see, maybe next yr. Friend, we all would like to know more abt u.
Abx, i read ur recent message. I too agree, u did a good thing by calling ur in-laws. It was surprising as well as nice to read that ur mil asked about ur health. U did the right thing.
Ok then got to go. Have a lot of work today. Will catch up with u guys later. Bye.

hi girls,
i've checked this message board after a long time. i read your inquiry about me in a few notes. well, i'm fine and am pregnant with my second baby.

hey friend and abx...why don't we start another thread for mom's like us. friend , how old is your kid? mine will be 3 this month.

and as for tensed....keep up the great work girl. its nice to know that you are happy and working. so do you have plans to start a family in the near future? all the best to you for your get-together with your in-laws whenever they come here.

keep in touch everyone. i don't read this board everyday but will try to reply as and when possible.

luck to all

Hi abx, Thanks for your dassara wishes and I wish you the same. Yes, I do celebrate it. I am actually from southern part of India. Now, I am living in USA. I too have a toddler girl like you and Nicemom. Now, you know how I got into this website (IndiaPareting dotcom), right?!. While I was surfing the net (which I do whenever I get some time to relax) one day I happened to see these 'message boards'..etc. From then I started checking/posting/writing to these Message boards once in a while whenever I find myself free from all work. Well, that's all about me for now. BTW, how is Nicemom? I don't remember seeing her message in this thread recently!

As per the phone issue, you did the right thing by calling them back!. Take care. Bye.

Good to hear from u tensed, and thanks for the dassera wishes, wishing u both a happy dassera, btw friend, i hope u celeberate dassera. I don't know much about u, where do u live, and do u have kids etc etc , Do let us know more about urself. Wishing u all a happy navatrhi. Well ,we all went to the temple and had a nice long weekend(its thanks giving day in canada, and hence long weekendn).
And yes a bit of fresh news for both of u. U know what , today my fil called up our residence, i din't know who it was, and as i was busy left it to the message. That old man is calling from there, and saying, hey son, this is dad, couldn't talk to u since long and hence thought of talking to u, i thought u were at home, and that man is saying in a sarcastic node"is she going to pick up the phone!" coz i din't pick up the phone. Anyays, i thought about it for a whle, and thought whether or not to return the call. And then after thinking for long i decided to return the call, so that i can stand a better reason to fight for myself, if my hubby yells at me the next time. I can tell atleast, that i had the courtesy to return back the call of ur father, but u din' have the curtesy to reply to my brother. Anyways the gruhapravesh is on the 18 so still there is time, let me see if he replies back. Anyways, i sent my brother a greetings, but i din't tell about it to my hubby. When he dosen't tell me his wereabouts , i too don't wish to tell my wereabouts, and i also called up my parents and spoke to them for long, atleast i can punish this calculative man with a dubious, isd bill. Let him have a bit of tough time next month. This is the only way i can punish him.
Anyways, i din't wish my in laws for dassera also so far, so thought of utilising this opportunity to call them back, coz they called up first, and so i thought i can use up this opportuniyt, or else, i might have to call up these devils, voluntarily later at some stage or other. I know that my hubby is very happy about it(after all why can't he be ), so i think he might reply back to my brother. aBut anyways, i am not going to call them up again and again, like before and all and talk. This conversation is enought for the next tw months!!!!!!??? What do u guys think. Did i do the right thing by calling them back .
My mil spoke and since i was coughing too much she asked, what happned. i told her, welll i have been coughing for the past 2 weeks, and din't speak much anything about myself, and said, bye . So atleast my hubby can't fight with me or point fingers at me. Anyays, these villians will certainly learn a lesson soem day or other for everything. God is there to take care of them.
I don't want to think about them at all and want to do the packing for my house, and keep my family life happy. WE will be moving on the 26 th of this mnths. And iwill most probably go over to india on the 4th of dec or so.
And tensed what's up at ur end. Good that u din't talk to them recently. that's enough yaar, just say hai once in a month, and finish off the chapter These people don't deserve any respect at all, and remember all the tips, and behave as i said. Rest in next, Looking forward to ur early replies.