I found this site accidentally a few months ago and read some of the stories of the daughter in-laws with both sympathy and empathy. This aspect of Indian culture where the majority of daughter in laws are treated like outsiders is just a horrible and backward part of the culture. Some people may say that I am generalizing by saying this, but from the majority of the posts and my own personal research, I have come to the conclusion that the daugher in law does suffer by living in a joint family in one way or another.
My story is no different. I was born and raised in Canada and live in a joint family with my Indian born husband and his family. Both my parents are Indian, so I'm indo-Canadian and probably much more traditional in some ways that born and raised Indian girls. I'm certainly not an angel but I am a very compassionate, fair and nice individual. I have done my best to try to make things work and ensure that we were all happy. In fact, I saw this as a challenge and personal goal to have a harmonious household. Well, it didn't work. What I have realized is that I will always be treated like an outsider and looked down upon. There's nothing anyone can do about it.
The ironic thing is that the inlaws believe that they are the greatest in laws in the world. My MIL has said some horrible demeaning things about me over these last twelve years since I've been married. Apparently, I'm not tall enough, thin enough, not educated enough, not cultured enough, hair isn't long enough, am not religious enough, do not smile enough, do not cook and clean enough and have too much fun. This list goes on an on. The tricky part of this is that she has ways of saying things and then turning around and saying, \";I didn't mean it that way, you took it the wrong way\";. I don't know how to take comments that she made to her sister such as \";she never uses soap when she bathes\"; and \";she's so uncultured\"; in any other way than how they are said!
Anyhow, the comments are petty, it's the deeper issues that frustrate me to no end. I have to run now, maybe I'll write more later, it really is therapeutic.
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Hi All,
I found this site accidentally a few months ago and read some of the stories of the daughter in-laws with both sympathy and empathy. This aspect of Indian culture where the majority of daughter in laws are treated like outsiders is just a horrible and backward part of the culture. Some people may say that I am generalizing by saying this, but from the majority of the posts and my own personal research, I have come to the conclusion that the daugher in law does suffer by living in a joint family in one way or another.
My story is no different. I was born and raised in Canada and live in a joint family with my Indian born husband and his family. Both my parents are Indian, so I'm indo-Canadian and probably much more traditional in some ways that born and raised Indian girls. I'm certainly not an angel but I am a very compassionate, fair and nice individual. I have done my best to try to make things work and ensure that we were all happy. In fact, I saw this as a challenge and personal goal to have a harmonious household. Well, it didn't work. What I have realized is that I will always be treated like an outsider and looked down upon. There's nothing anyone can do about it.
The ironic thing is that the inlaws believe that they are the greatest in laws in the world. My MIL has said some horrible demeaning things about me over these last twelve years since I've been married. Apparently, I'm not tall enough, thin enough, not educated enough, not cultured enough, hair isn't long enough, am not religious enough, do not smile enough, do not cook and clean enough and have too much fun. This list goes on an on. The tricky part of this is that she has ways of saying things and then turning around and saying, \";I didn't mean it that way, you took it the wrong way\";. I don't know how to take comments that she made to her sister such as \";she never uses soap when she bathes\"; and \";she's so uncultured\"; in any other way than how they are said!
Anyhow, the comments are petty, it's the deeper issues that frustrate me to no end. I have to run now, maybe I'll write more later, it really is therapeutic.
JointFamily replied. JointFamily here.
I disagree. Well, I agree that there is a problem and remains unsolved, I disagree that it cannot be solved quickly!
My analysis is different. In many cases that I know, primary reason being hubby's taking no-stand, \";no-comments\";, type role and leaving it to wife to gain position of dear-one on own. That works in few cases only.
If hubby in some way makes it clear to in-laws that while he loves and cares for them and wants to be a good son, he is hurt everytime you are treated outsider or unfairely and everytime he will be an inch away from them, most in-laws start responding and then it is only a matter of time to develp closeness.
There needs to a threat of separation if someone does not respond.
As in some cases, much time and hurt has taken place, it becomes difficult. If one is ready to forget past and make new effort, first thing to do is to pull your hubby in the solution!
Inna replied. Hi Canadian Gal,
I don't think there is much that we the DIL's can do to change the mindset of the ILs. They are that way and nothing can change them. The worst part of indian culture is as you said the DIL is always an outsider. Now make it 2 years 20 or 100 years, this fact is not going to change. The best you can do is ignore them and live your life.
Believe me you are living with them in these conditions but ILs can make their DILs and also their own son's life hell living 10,000 miles away.
You did not mention how your husband treats you and if he is good to you it is much easier to ignore all these things. The problem becomes worse when he takes ILs side and proves you wrong.
Another thing, are you working? It is much easier for a working gal to ignore the ILs comments and treatment as she doesn't get much time. But you can ignore only upto a certain extent and have to take action after that.
About me, ILs don't live with me but can make hubby and me fight just by telling him sth over the phone. I work so I ignore all their comments and don't have time to think about all the things they say abt me or my parents. Seriously, I don't even care anymore. I know they just want to pick on me and my parents and try to make thing worse for everyone.
I hope they can understand that they are not only making their DILs life hell but also making their own son miserable. After all, he is married to this gal and most probably than not is going to spend the rest of his life with her. I just wish they can undestand this and cut the cord.
Inna.
Poonam replied. Hi
Its not new thing you have written. Almost every girl who is staying with her parents-in-laws must have gone through all this. And let me tell you that it is not indian mentality , its women nature. Not the in-laws, but it is the relation which is bad. If it is these small things what you have written i.e. about cooking, looking and culture etc. , then it is better not to respond. Accept that you are like this, so what?? Do what you feel good to all and don´t hope that they will reward you. If you don´t hope, you ´ll not feel bad. Accept that they are your in-laws, they will behave like this only. Don´t expect them to behave like your parents. This is difficult but with practice you can do this.
All the best.
Rashmi replied. Hi Canadian_girl,
I understand totally how you must be feeling. You are right that Indian culture is very regressive in the treatment of women in general.
I salute you for your courage in trying to be positive and in working to make things work and that too for 12 years. I would like to know what \";coping techniques\"; you have used over the years.
2005-12-02
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Name: JointFamily Subject: DIL can be dear-ones in family!
JointFamily here.
I disagree. Well, I agree that there is a problem and remains unsolved, I disagree that it cannot be solved quickly!
My analysis is different. In many cases that I know, primary reason being hubby's taking no-stand, \";no-comments\";, type role and leaving it to wife to gain position of dear-one on own. That works in few cases only.
If hubby in some way makes it clear to in-laws that while he loves and cares for them and wants to be a good son, he is hurt everytime you are treated outsider or unfairely and everytime he will be an inch away from them, most in-laws start responding and then it is only a matter of time to develp closeness.
There needs to a threat of separation if someone does not respond.
As in some cases, much time and hurt has taken place, it becomes difficult. If one is ready to forget past and make new effort, first thing to do is to pull your hubby in the solution!
2005-09-15
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Name: Inna Subject: Not much can be done.
Hi Canadian Gal,
I don't think there is much that we the DIL's can do to change the mindset of the ILs. They are that way and nothing can change them. The worst part of indian culture is as you said the DIL is always an outsider. Now make it 2 years 20 or 100 years, this fact is not going to change. The best you can do is ignore them and live your life.
Believe me you are living with them in these conditions but ILs can make their DILs and also their own son's life hell living 10,000 miles away.
You did not mention how your husband treats you and if he is good to you it is much easier to ignore all these things. The problem becomes worse when he takes ILs side and proves you wrong.
Another thing, are you working? It is much easier for a working gal to ignore the ILs comments and treatment as she doesn't get much time. But you can ignore only upto a certain extent and have to take action after that.
About me, ILs don't live with me but can make hubby and me fight just by telling him sth over the phone. I work so I ignore all their comments and don't have time to think about all the things they say abt me or my parents. Seriously, I don't even care anymore. I know they just want to pick on me and my parents and try to make thing worse for everyone.
I hope they can understand that they are not only making their DILs life hell but also making their own son miserable. After all, he is married to this gal and most probably than not is going to spend the rest of his life with her. I just wish they can undestand this and cut the cord.
Inna.
2005-09-15
#3
Name: Poonam Subject: Hi
Hi
Its not new thing you have written. Almost every girl who is staying with her parents-in-laws must have gone through all this. And let me tell you that it is not indian mentality , its women nature. Not the in-laws, but it is the relation which is bad. If it is these small things what you have written i.e. about cooking, looking and culture etc. , then it is better not to respond. Accept that you are like this, so what?? Do what you feel good to all and don´t hope that they will reward you. If you don´t hope, you ´ll not feel bad. Accept that they are your in-laws, they will behave like this only. Don´t expect them to behave like your parents. This is difficult but with practice you can do this.
All the best.
2005-09-15
#4
Name: Rashmi Subject: Hi
Hi Canadian_girl,
I understand totally how you must be feeling. You are right that Indian culture is very regressive in the treatment of women in general.
I salute you for your courage in trying to be positive and in working to make things work and that too for 12 years. I would like to know what \";coping techniques\"; you have used over the years.
2005-09-18
#5
Name: Canadian_Girl Subject: To Rashmi
Thanks Rashmi,
I like your comments about having the courage to try to be positive, it does take courage and a leap of faith. To be honest, my biggest coping technique has been to exercise and work out such that I look and feel my best. Sometimes, looking great is the best revenge (especially when comments about looks are made)!!
Also, exercising naturally inspires you to try to excel in other arenas of your life (it's proven that endorphins released after exerise improve your mindset and feelings of ease for hours afterwards). Thus, I have worked out like crazy and as a result, I have been pretty successful in my job and the majority of my interpersonal relationships. I have also tried many new activities outside of the house (dance classes, higher education) to keep me busy and most importantly, to provide me with the energy to be able to manage the negativity in my home life.
My recent problems began after I recently became pregnant and was unable to get out and work out as much as I used to - morning sickness, flu and all. Thus, I have become more sensitive to negativity and feel a little more 'victimized' by it all. The last thing you want is to be treated like an outsider when you are already feeling very physically and emotionally vulnerable.
Anyhow, other coping strategies include setting diplomacy goals for yourself. Always try to analyze the problem, understand the emotions behind the mean words and try to be smart about how to get your own message across. It's important to think about these things to the last detail because if you want your husband on your side, nothing beats plain and simple logic!
Anyhow, all my coping strategies are just for coping after all, no revolution of the minds has occurred and neither have I become the darling of the house...
As for my husband...what can I say? I married Mr. Right, he's a great guy who just loves his parents alot and wants to take care of them. He loves his wife alot too and wants her to be happy...he's trapped in the middle too...the son's have it hard as well (it's tough to hear negative comments about your parents, and they do have to hear them once in awhile).
At the end of the day, I always tell myself that any man who is that devoted to his parents welfare will certainly be as devoted to his children and hopefully partner. My Mr. Right is very good to me, but I still can't help feeling bad about the other stuff...
Ok, enough of the pity party, I actually have a pretty good life and thank you all for listening (or reading) and I wish you all the best!!
Regards,
Cdn gal.
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