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Joint Family:my thoughts on in-laws
2005-05-10
Name: advise me



Hi There,

I must have spend half my morning reading just about every post in this thread. I was soooo horrified at some of the things you women have put up with. Absolutely shocked! Part of me admires the way you sit quitely and meekly infront of these 'evil in-laws' and part of me wants to grab you by the shoulders and say WHAT THE???

I am not judging any of you. I think some have gone through appaulig situations. I am still concerned about the women who posted that her busband beat her at his mothers request. How do you find the couage to put up with this harrassment? How do you bite your tongue?

I know some have made little stands against the in-laws and had a bit of revenge but on the whole everyone is suffering silently... Sure enough you post here and get some advise, speak with people who are in similar situations and have a chance to vent but what about afterwards? Has anyone here posted a problem and after getting advise, confronted their in-laws?

I used to have nasty in-laws but I always made an attempt to correct the situation. If my MIL said bad things I would bring it up over saying I wanted to clear the air and bring out the truth. I don't deny they absolutely hated it but I just couldn't sit on my hands and say nothing. They expected this that and the other and yet they did nothing for my hubby and I. At birthdays and christmas they would say buy this or that for us and the SIL's and these would be very expensive items and they in turn would buy a group gife for hubby and I that cost $20.

When I had children they would call my friends and family saying of she doesnt know what she is doing. My MIL had this problem with breast-feeding thinking it didnt offer enough for baby and she actually went to my doc to speak with him about it. They'd visit their daughers everday and see their grand kids and we lived even closer then they did but they didnt visit us. All they did was complain I didn't let them see enough of the children. It was lots of stupid things like this.

There were times my hubby hit me and no way was I going to tolerate it. I hit him back and to be honest I grew up with 3 brothers so i knew how to fight back. My in-laws though it was ok for me to be black and blue and have to stay home from work but it was a travesty that I'd hit hubby back. Now if someone even suggested touching their girls they would have the police there. When my kids had birthday parties they would pick up the table and chairs and move away from everyone and openly say infront of everyone \";we don't like your family\";... How bloody rude!

My hubby died not too long before my daughter was born and I remained single with 2 kids and after 1.5 years I met my new husband. He is the most magnificent person in the world. I often look at the relationship and think yes this is what dreams are made of. My old in-laws now go around saying I was cheating on my previous hubby when he was alive etc. Its such crap. They even tell people my new hubby is an illegal immegrant and that our marriage was so he could stay in australia, despite the fact he had permenant residency before we met. Argh it pisses me off.

Anyway I am still sitting with people saying no this is the real facts, and I will see my old MIL and ask why she says these things and let her know I have gone and corrected her lies. I almost enjoy making a fool of her, actually I take a perverse delight in it. Why do people have to make up stories and lies about people? Hey I don't mind if someone wants to talk badly about me if it is the truth but lies are just pathetic.

What I wonder is why don't most of you stand up for yourself? It doesnt have to be confrontational it can be so simple. I used to say things like \";oh guess what i heard from such and such\"; and then i would go into the truth. Or I would say \";why did you say this when you know that was the truth\"; and I would make out like they must have confued the facts rather than gone out of their way to be spiteful. Yes they squirmed but had they been honest they need'nt have felt so bad. Be strong girls we are not doormats for anyone to walk over!

I am yet to meet my new husbands parents. They are opposed to him and I marrying and we're expecting a baby n 6 months time. I guess they too will have their own issues and personalities. They hate the fact he married a christian white girl... Beware the white devil sort of thing. I would like if we all could get along but I accept their decision. I have made up my mind that should we meet I will be respectful and kind but I will not and never will be a door mat to anyone... Its MY life and noone but I can make it unhappy
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2005-05-11
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Anonymous Name: Tracy035
Subject:  Parents



Well I am a newlywed of 3 weeks...I haven't met the parents and I am not looking forward to it either. I think my husband is trying to keep the 2 worlds apart...I am a Christian White girls (You know the ones not good enough). I have no clue as to what to expect or as what to do if I ever meet them. I know I will be respectful as long as they are to me. They call him constantly making him feel guilty. I do know that I am going to keep my independence and my identity. I feel like I have to be on the lookout for these people. I have been in relationships with white boys who hit me and after that I said never again. I will not let any other man put a hand on me in my life. I will love my husband and cherish him but I will not take anything from him or his parents. I am a person no matter what my skin color.. Anyway enough rambling from me...
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2005-05-14
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Anonymous Name: advise me
Subject:  my thoughts



Hey Anju,

I do agree with many of the concerns but we'd all be blind if we even dared to think Indian girls are all virgins at marriage. Take a look at any message bored devoted to Indian teens and its obvious they are not angels. Sure enough as you said they will go to lengths to hide it but it doesnt change the facts

With regard to tolerance reducing divorce I have to say yup that is true. But then again look at some of the horrific circumstances that many of the women here have posted about. There are still about 6000 dowry deaths and many more injured each year. An interesting fact to know is that there was a huge survey done recently, can't think who by but i shall try to find out, and it showed that about 1.5% of western men cheat on their partners... that is one point five.

I find infidelity a very sad issue and even more so when I found out that the same survey showed that 47% of Indian men were unfaithful. From my own point of view I think happiness is what you make of it and there is no way in hell that I would put up with half the things these women have suffered as DIL's. Weatern women wouldnt allow it as a general rule and thus the divorce rate. There are pro's and con's in everything but staying with someone to avoid 'social stigma' is foolishness.

There are teen pregnancies every where you go. It isnt encouraged but it occurs. The girl is hastily married or goes away till it is born etc but even India is not safe from it. What I love so much about western culture is we don't negate people for a mistake, they don't become social pariahs. In a teen pregnancy the girl is supported and encouraged to continue her schooling. I am not trying to bag indian's or india... Just wanted to express my views
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2005-05-13
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Anonymous Name: anju
Subject:  western culture



hey,
i would say it's not skin color or religion , I think it's culture, since in western countrys divorce rate is high, inlaws think , western girls may not be patience as indian girls(i know this generation things changes alot)..hey please don't misunderstand i am putting down western people...and also in western countrys teenage girls getting pregnent or having sex before marriage is a common issue, but for indians it is an autombomb falling on thier home..believe me they can go to any extent to cover this issue..
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2005-05-12
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Anonymous Name: advise me
Subject:  dont let racism be a part of it



Hey Tracy,

I feel like a hypocrite saying this given I made the White Devil comment but honestly skin colour isnt the real issue. We just don't conform to what the parents have always hoped for.

I am not saying that this is true of ALL parents but it seems to me that indian parents have many plans for their children and that extends to their choice in a wife or husband. My in-laws have little faith in a love marriage saying they never last and its really their own concern that creats half the issues they have.

My MIL has said that if my hubby married a nice hindu girl he would be better taken care of and religion wouldn't be an issue etc. Its just her own worries, I dont think she truly means to be harmful even when she is making threats. If they could just stop and look they'd see that things are great, and hey! I think all the little metal and stone fingurines of my hubby looks quite nice up next to my christian crosses and statues... Bu thats just my feeling... Dont let them allow you to believe skin colour is really a part of it
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2005-05-11
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Anonymous Name: cd
Subject:  Why!



I dont understand when you say that parents dont support you!

Are you les than 20?? are you less capable than your husband? what??

Why do girls in india so easily assume they cannot make a living? Thats because you have never tried. I detest dependance. Thats what society norms in India teach you. Its ridculous.

Tecah the boy to be dependant on his aprents, for the girl on her husband, the parents on the boy...why cant everyone have a life of their own??
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2005-05-12
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Anonymous Name: cd
Subject:  Sorry!



hey courage,

i am sorry for that barrage. I dont like to see women being so depressed in situations whihc are prob better off than some communities.

Ist entirely upto ourselves to hold up for us. No one is talking abt divorce. be firm like a wall in what you believe in. The money you earn is yours! Believe in that, theres nothing in wrongin calling your earned money as yours. You should choose to spend it.

write down your situation and think what all needs to be corrected. And then go ahead doing that.

Good luck to you. I have tried and like to beleive i succeeded eventho there is still a long way to go. But it can happen. Trust me trust yourself.
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2005-05-12
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Anonymous Name: courage
Subject:  moral support



Hey cd..i meant moral support from parents..they emotionaly feel sorry for me & they encourage me to get a job.but thier advice is i have to learn to live with that..i don't have guts to go againest my husband and his family..somehow by experiance i feel like my marriage will endup in divorce if i do so..my husband although is not that worst as others in this message board..he will not standup with me, even though he realize my mil & sil's are wrong with me..he will tell he can't do that..and this is all we even take care of thier each daily day today expenses and each penny they spent is earned by me and my husband.finaly i think, it is not even worth to think about them and spoil my brain.
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2005-05-11
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Anonymous Name: courage
Subject:  brought up



hey..it was good to read your message..some how i am also suffering, but not too bad extent, i don't have that courage what you have...more over , i don't have very good job, i feel what if my husband leaves me for my actions??..we indian girls (most of them) have this problem..believe me we don't get much support from our family too..since our parents afraid of society,dignity etc..etc..
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2005-05-11
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Anonymous Name: advise me
Subject:  Be Strong Girl



Hey sorry about the other reply to your message courage... I meant it for cd... Courage don't feel like you dont have the strength, we all do, it just a matter of holding your breath and making that jump. I used to be the weakest most walked over person ever!!! One day i thought no more... I hope you always have the courage to be who you are and find your own happiness
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2005-05-11
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Anonymous Name: advise me
Subject:  Give them Strength not Scolding



It is a matter of mental conditioning. If you are told something often enough you will begin to believe it. These women are not soft or weak or dependant... They have grown in to the very things they were meant to be... I just think it is desperately sad that we've been taught to be this way and that we can not fight back... I think future generations will learn from this and eventually we will see equality.
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2005-05-11
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Anonymous Name: Anon
Subject:  Hats of to you



I wish more women would stand up for themselves. My husband hit me once and I called the police on him and he has never dared to try anything like that. Infact, during the delivery of my first born my MIL and SIL were devils and I called the Postnatal depression centre and told a counsellor my situation and that I was sinking into depression due to that. The same evening a social worker came home and warned them. Due to these actions they have learnt not to mess with me. And I am not even a white girl I am indian living in the U.S. Ladies stand up for yourself coz no one else will!
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2005-06-22
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Anonymous Name: swati
Subject:  Awesome!!



I like the way u handled your situation. Really appreciate your guts.
I know my hubby would never hit me but my inlaws and SIL mite drive me crazy. Emotional abuse and ofcourse hubby wont find fault with them and get defensive abt them. U know how women handle things diplomatically and show hubby how nice they r to inlaws in front of him. I liked your idea of calling up "postnatal depression center" and I got a question tho- what would a hubby think or do - wouldnt u b spoiling your relationship with hubby even further?? In future, I'd like my mom with me(dont have kids yet) and not MIL. I am sure hubby will convince me somehow that his mom comes. Just need ideas.
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2005-05-11
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Anonymous Name: advise me
Subject:  You Go Girl!!!



Brilliant... I absolutely love the way you dealt with your problems... You managed to get your point across strongly without personal confrontation. God bless you, may more women find the same strength you have Anon...
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