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Role of in-laws:Answer me ladies.
2006-12-05
Name: venkat



Hi all

I am a regular reader on this site. This is a great site which provides good info about developing children. I recently checked this column about in-laws. I find people only complain about their in-laws. Ok... i know most inlaws are manipulative and i do not know why they are like that.

I have a different problem and i want true suggestions from you all experienced women. I got married around 1.5 yrs back. I work from IT background and so is my wife. Since my marriage we have been having problems and now we have a baby and i feel it should come to an end. My wife is just like some the modern women who work and spend lavishy or atleast think they should find a partner who will make their lives easier without any pains at all. She does not understand that even the richest of the people in earth have to work physically, if they want a happy family. She never does any house work and will keep fighting like anything if i ask her to do. My mom will do all the housework and still she will keep fighting and irritating me all the time about my mother. I agree that after marriage wife should be given importance but there has to be a limit u keep listening bad about ur mother. My wife cooly says that she is not used to working hard and handling a family. I am equally helping her but she shows no intension to show any positive attitude. she is totally lazy and never did any physical work or exercise or controlled her food during her pregnancy and finally she became overweight and go a C-section. My mother daily used to tell her to do house work or some physical work since then only atleast a women body will be flexible in pregnancy. She never listend and all the time she cursed my mother and me for being a mamma boy. now finally she only got C-Section and she has problems because of that. I do not know how bad C-section is....

Now after our baaby since due to the demands of baby she has to do some work. Now she has quit her work since i asked to take care of baby for atleast 1 yrs. Still she does not even bother about saving any money for our future. My mother still cooks daily and handles all the work in home and inspite of that she will keep cursing her. She says she does not have power in the home to handle things in her manner. i.e. the kitchen or food or vessels should be like this or that. she then says that my mom is not allowing her to handle the house. I am telling her i will support u and say strongly to my mom to follow her . but with power comes responsibility means she has to make sure all food is cooked for everyone, things are clean and proper and we also save money. she is afraid of that also, because this will make her worker harder physically. she has not respect for me and mother. i do not understand what to do. she wants in control also but she wants a smmoth life. this is very confusing.

till now for last 1 yr i controled myself for whatever fights she did, because she was pregnnat and i did not want to harm. But now i am getting depressed and i am getting more and more irritaed. i am not able save money, i am worried for my daughter. it is a very costly world we need to work harder and smarter for our future and also our dependent future. I am able to hear daily curse against my mother. Finally now i also burst out and curse her parents very badly and infact i cursed them badly infront of them itself. I do not care about any selfrespect. But i am worried that i should not be like this as me and my wife fighting will affect my daughter who has not done any harm to anyone. I am asking her to change her attitude, i help her most of the times at home also inspite of my heavy office work. but now i am not able to take mental torture. women are very good in words they nag men to the core and sometime i feel i shoud kill myself or her. but i am worried about my daughter.

please advise. how i can i change my wife. how i can make less selfish and little caring about other people in home. Please do not mistake me as moamma boy, i equally help my wife at home. i feed my daughter at odd times at night. i wash her clothers and get them back after drying. i am doing most of the work which a lady does. but now i am getting depressed and i am becoming violent also which i do not want to be...

I feel the women who share their problems here are superwomen. You women do all the housework and inspite of that ur inlaws torture u. i wish i had married any of u there...

i do not father, i cannot just dump my mother and i love my wife and daugther very much. i want to have a peaceful life.

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2007-05-28
#1
Anonymous Name: sonia
Subject:  good idea



Hi,
i agree with the posts earlier. IT WUD be gr8 if u cud cud move into ur own little love nest. watch the change in ur wife as she gets excited to do up and maintain \" her home\" .It' s only natural. in this house, she is not comfortable and therefore all the excuses. at the same time, make ur parents feel secure by visiting them every weekend and hopefully renting/buying a home near to them, so you can meet them whenever u want. this is sure to work.
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2007-04-20
#2
Anonymous Name: lovely
Subject:  understand



hi venkat i read ur mail today and thought of replying.u seem to be a mature man and sensible also.
i agree to many points what preeti has said so will not elaborate my mail.
im a girl who can be compared to ur wife in many aspects..hehee.but believe me my husband patiently has changed me now in many ways.i also relized as well as he also relized that we need to develop understanding between each other.our first year of marriage was all about adjustments.i wanted a baby,but he refused as he thought im not a very responsible girl and need to mature before handling a family.plez dont take wrong meaning ok....
make your wife understand that love is reciprocal.its not only one sided.
u have a daughter,if your wife,u both have to give her a good example of good parents.what will ur wife teach daughter when she herself is lazy and irresponsible.children grasp things very quickly.Your tensed relationship might effect your daughter mind.i guess no mother will like to ruin her child life.i know women needs space after marriage,but will she b able to manage house on her own if u separate...discuss this with her and then find solution

all the best.hope u have a very happy married life ahead
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2006-12-08
#3
Anonymous Name: Preeti
Subject:  Hey- For girl



Hey girl,

I dont think it is a crime for a father to live on his son. Every parent has the right in life. But in todays modern world we have lost respect for that. What happens to parents when they get old and are not able to tk care of themselves anymore. what do u do. Will u just leave them to live on their own. We are still not fully americanised. Probably u are. So u dont have to be so sarcastic abt job's advise to venkat and end ur sentence with a smiley. And anyways if Venkat had so much money to buy a separate house he would not be asking for advice from people like us. He seems likes a very sensible and mature person who wants to have harmony and peace in his house. He wants to take care of his mother in her old age when he has lost his fater (pls read the mail propely).

For Venkat- I really admire what u r trying to do venkat. I will pray that things get soughted out and u lead ahappy life with your daugther, wife and mother.

Take care and good luck.
Regards,
Preeti.
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2006-12-11
#4
Anonymous Name: girl
Subject:  Hmm



Preeti

Venkat can still look after his parents from living separately...no one is telling him to dump them.
And he does not really need to buy a palace for his wife... a small house will do.. there will be alot of peace and harmony in this way.. and that is what he is trying to achieve.
And since his wife and his mother are not geting on.. its best they lead their lives their own way..and from what I see is happening here is MIL wants DIL to follow her ways..and vice versa.
You know two women can never share a kitchen..there will always be conficts.
I have seen families where the guy moves out immediately after marriage..and the DIL and MIL relationship becomes like two close friends...or mother and daughter..they are constantly doing things for each other..pampering each other etc etc. praising each other in public etc etc... and also some of my friends live with their MIL.. and they never have anything positive to say about the inlaws...and MILs too are bad mouthing the bahoos.
There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with a woman wanting to life her life the way she likes. It is her birth right.
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2006-12-07
#5
Anonymous Name: venkat
Subject:  Re: Advise me ladies.



thank you everybody for replying me. I would like thank everyone individually.

priti thanks a lot... Seeing a Counsellor will surely help..

And regarding savings and money, (girl:) yes i have a very strong saving plans which no one can shake in my family. but marriage is united thing, i feel if my wife coorporates with me .. we can do wonders..

I am living in Chennai. It will be really great, if anyone can suggest a good Family/Marriage counsellor. This will be the greatest help any one can do to me.


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2006-12-07
#6
Anonymous Name: girl
Subject:  get her a house



Suggestion for u...
Get yourself and your wife a separate house.. this can be very near your parents house..this will give her own space..kitchen..privacy etc..you can be near your parents so u can keep an eye on them.. and your wife can have her own space.. both are happy...

And after this arrangement your wife does not change.. then she is a problematic woman.. and u dont want her in your life.
I suggest you sit down with her and ask her how she feels about this idea.. will it make her happy etc?
Please let me know the result.
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2006-12-07
#7
Anonymous Name: job
Subject:  responsibility



Hi Venkat,
I guess, i can relate to you in some matters. you have to look at things from psychological point of view also. what kind of family does she come from? her background etc... the problem with these kind of situations is immaturity. what might work is if you keep reminding her of the expenses that you guys might incur in the future. being in IT means a private firm without pension or PF, so you have to fend for yourself at age 60+. keep telling her the bank balances and how much you would need so many years down the line. just sit once with her and list out the expenses. be very cool about it. cut down on your expenses completely, that also could give her a sense of guilt in the sense that when she suggests buying something for you, say no that you want to save for your daughter. if you make a list of amounts that you might require in the future, the amount will run into lakhs which she should be aware of. generally, either the girl could be from a wealthy family where they have enough money to not care about it or from a poor familly where she is not used to spending lot of money. so in either case, you need to keep reminding her of the reality. believe me, it takes a lot of time and patience... maybe months or years for you to be able to convince her. at the same time, you could open a seperate account secretly and keep depositing atleast some money in it, so that you wont loose time in making her understand. Some people dont realise easily how much hardwork and sacrifice it takes for uplifting the life of our family or children. because, its not only our generation, but the next generation also which we need to take care of.. Thats INDIA
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2006-12-07
#8
Anonymous Name: girl
Subject:  hi



Hi job.. dont give Venkat advice.. am sure he has thought about what he will do when he is 60.. same as what his father is doing.. live on his kids.. :o)
So why is he so much worried about his wife not saving?
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2006-12-06
#9
Anonymous Name: saheli
Subject:  re: Priti and venkat



Good answer Priti. Great points!

On the counsellor thing ... if u think wife will not accept seeing a counsellor, then see if u can seek help from your family doc/paediatrician. Depends on ur relationship with them, in one of my friend's case, the ped had helped out asking the lady to do housechores since she was overwt and had risk of diabetes.

One more think i want to appreciate is the \" open minded DILs\" ... the role-of-inlaws and joint-family boards looked like anti-MIL boards to many ppl, but replies like from Priti show that we are not biased ...
.. we have a head on our shoulders.. and it works better than .. ! ;-)

:)
saheli
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2006-12-06
#10
Anonymous Name: Priti
Subject:  Good luck



My read on your post -- my wife doesn't do a thing, complains and drives you insane. I hope that you have tried to see her side of things too, if there is something bothering her. I agree her attitude in not supporting you with saving money, working around the house is not acceptable. Are you in usa or india? seems like india. in any case here are my suggestions

1. can you go see a family counselor? sometimes it helps to have a third party (impartial) mediate. If the two of you find yourself yelling everytime there's a difference in opinion then an intervention will help. If that is not an option, then maybe you can come up with creative ways to communicate your points with your wife. An, example --
--you want her to cook
--tell her/write her a note - i would like you to cook. what is keeping you from cooking? what can i do so that you can do that, this is afterall your house and family.
- wait for her complete response. let her finish.
-if she says, your mother interfers, I don't want to cook with her around, then tell her that you'd make sure that your mother doesn't interfer, that she can do what she wants how she wants.
-if she says, i can't handle the kid and cook, then offer her help. tell her, i'll make sure i or my mother will look after our daughter while she cooks.
-if she says i won't do it, then tell her -- this is a home. every member in the family has a role. how can we share responsibilities around the house to run our family. come up with a task list, write it down. ask her what her contributions are going to be?

basically, try to get all her excuses out. find a work around/solutions/or justify each excuse, so that she can't use any of them again as an excuse. Don't accuse her, because people get defensive. also leave your and her parents out of it, this is really problem on the two of you. if she brings up your mother, tell her to leave her out. set an example, that way you can say, i don't point fingers at yoru family, so i expect the same from you.

-- you are right, your daughter her is the one you guys need to change for. bring that up. calmly, short and direct, tell her -- do you want our child to grow up around negative/angry atmosphere or a positive, nurturing? Make is clear to her that for a positive nurturing atmospher at home, parents need to do a lot of work to maintain it. it is your (wife and you) responsibility. Children take cues from parents. then ask her, what will it take to keep it peaceful around the house, so that you and she don't argue as much. Bring yourself up, tell her that you are turning violent, and you want to stop it and you need her help.

These are just pointer and hopefully they will help you. The two of you need to have an open, constructive discussion. no emotions, no yelling, just what the problems are and what would be a solution that would work for the two of you. Any reasonable women or a person for that matter, would care and do everything possible in their hands to make their lives better. YOur wife is oppsing everythign that is coming out of you, so to me it looks like there are things that are bothering her. Try to get those out of her, and try to help her. in this discussion, keep it focused on the problem. don't bring in your mother, don't say things like my mother does this you sit around. i know it is true, but there are other ways to say that. like we need to do more of housework ourselves. reason being, when it comes to mother in law, you don't know how she'll react, and you want to keep the conversation netural and come out with a positive solution.
you say you love her, so make sure you mention those things, so it is not all negative. start of with things like, i'm lucky to have you and our daughter and i want to make our life together as a family better.
finally, also make a statment along the lines of -- i respect and love my mother. although she may do things that bother, you she's still my mother and i support you, but it hurts me to hear bad things about her all the time. i would like you to atleast respect her, she did go through all the aches and pain for raising me and turning me into who i am. i would do the same for yours.

also tell her that the two of you need to start acting mature, now that you have a daughter too. you need to put your individual differences aside and work as a team. and it shouldn't be painful for both of you to be in a relationship with each other. that the two of you don't have major issues with her. the small arguments are workable, and need to be solved.

just have a clean converstaion. hope it helps.hope eveyrthing will work out.

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2006-12-05
#11
Anonymous Name: lady
Subject:  Hi



It seems like your wife wants her own place and thats why she cannot be bothered about doing any work in your mother's house. Every woman wants and deserves her own kitchen.
Ask her if thats what she wants.. and dont be surprised at her answer.
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