Hey V, Hope u r doing great and had a good weekend.. haven't heard from you since thursday,so wondering if you are doin alright...
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Hey V, Hope u r doing great and had a good weekend.. haven't heard from you since thursday,so wondering if you are doin alright...
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Simmi replied. Hi Vidhya. I'm sure the baby is growing fine and would be with us on time, healthy and bouncing! Like Avi's info on Fundal Height says, it is only an indicative tool and not conclusive. I to have my doc measure me sometimes but not a serious note is made of it. Doc said even ultrasounds can't be 100% of baby's size. So keep the faith and keep eating well, I'm sure all will be fine. Good luck and god bless.
Simmi
Avi replied. See what I was saying....
The fundal height is just that--the height of the fundus. This is measured from the top of the pubic bone to the top of the uterus (womb). It's generally measured in centimeters, and it's a measurement, as you might suspect, that should increase as the pregnancy continues toward your due date. The fundal height is generally a diagnostic tool held over from the days before ultrasound, but it is still useful in large clinics where the same patient may not get the same doctor twice in a row for her prenatal visits.
There is no measurement more exact than ultrasound, and even this isn't perfect. But the fundal height, recorded with each visit, is even more inaccurate. Many obstetricians in private practice who see the same patients over and over (small and solo practices), don't even record it, but merely record whether the size of the uterus is compatible with the gestational age. A physician who is familiar with his or her patients will generally know when a baby isn't growing right during the many visits of the pregnancy. And if there is suspicion of a growth restricted baby or an LGA (large for gestational age baby), then ultrasound is the standard of care to sort out any worries--NOT A FUNDAL HEIGHT. But the fundal height is very useful in the larger clinics, because many different doctors will see a patient before the due date
Because there needs to be at least some objective frame of reference among the different doctors, the fundal height is still a good idea. It's not great, but is easy...and free. Ultrasound would make more academic sense, but is prohibitive from a cost standpoint when attempted on every visit. Like no two scales reading the same weight the same, also no two doctors are going to measure the same fundal height the same. But if a different doctor gets a discrepancy that's wildly different from what was expected based on the previous doctor's fundal height last visit, then ultrasound is justified. This is not very exact science, but it works remarkably well in the larger clinics.
Relying on fundal height as above must take into account explainable discrepancies. For instance, a baby who has \";dropped\"; between the last visit and the current one may show a fundal height less than last visit! A simple pelvic exam can determine the descent of the baby's head into the maternal pelvis to explain this. If a baby's turned sideways, as often occurs in mid-pregnancy, the fundal height can be unusually short for what's expected, because the greatest dimension lies across the horizontal. A breech baby, usually sitting up high in the uterus, will yield an unusually large fundal height. These are all circumstances that can defuse concerns over abnormal fundal heights. So it's obvious that it would not be a good idea to revise a due date based on a fundal height. The old Charity Hospital trick I use (we used to get people landing there with no prenatal care), is to judge the height of the fundus in relation to the umbilicus (belly button). Generally, the pregnancy is halfway (about 20 weeks) when the fundal height is palpable (felt) at the umbilicus. For every finger's width above the umbilicus the fundal height reaches, you can add a week. Likewise, below the umbilicus, subtracting a week. But this relationship is only applicable between 15 and 25 weeks. Before and after that this relationship goes out the window.
In summary, the fundal height is an antiquated and sometimes obsolete method of judging the appropriate growth of the baby during a pregnancy. It's best use is in large clinics and when a patient presents as a surprise with no prenatal care. But in small private practices, it is superseded by consistent same-physician evaluations throughout the pregnancy.
Vindhya replied. Hi Avi,
Hope you had a good weekend. I did go to Target and bought some baby clothes. It's a good place to start with. Couldn't make it to Babies R'Us, though.
Did you take your hospital tour?
You have an appointment today, right. The internal exam one. Good luck.
I had an appointment on Friday, and the bad news is that the fundal height is measuring only 30 1/2 which is almost three weeks behind now. We did show the report from the 3D U/S and the doctor didn't seem too satisfied. She said that if there is four weeks difference, then she will order an ultrasound. I am feeling extremely sad about it.
Vindhya
2003-10-14
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Name: Simmi Subject: I'm sure all is well with the little angel
Hi Vidhya. I'm sure the baby is growing fine and would be with us on time, healthy and bouncing! Like Avi's info on Fundal Height says, it is only an indicative tool and not conclusive. I to have my doc measure me sometimes but not a serious note is made of it. Doc said even ultrasounds can't be 100% of baby's size. So keep the faith and keep eating well, I'm sure all will be fine. Good luck and god bless.
Simmi
2003-10-13
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Name: Avi Subject: info on fundal height
See what I was saying....
The fundal height is just that--the height of the fundus. This is measured from the top of the pubic bone to the top of the uterus (womb). It's generally measured in centimeters, and it's a measurement, as you might suspect, that should increase as the pregnancy continues toward your due date. The fundal height is generally a diagnostic tool held over from the days before ultrasound, but it is still useful in large clinics where the same patient may not get the same doctor twice in a row for her prenatal visits.
There is no measurement more exact than ultrasound, and even this isn't perfect. But the fundal height, recorded with each visit, is even more inaccurate. Many obstetricians in private practice who see the same patients over and over (small and solo practices), don't even record it, but merely record whether the size of the uterus is compatible with the gestational age. A physician who is familiar with his or her patients will generally know when a baby isn't growing right during the many visits of the pregnancy. And if there is suspicion of a growth restricted baby or an LGA (large for gestational age baby), then ultrasound is the standard of care to sort out any worries--NOT A FUNDAL HEIGHT. But the fundal height is very useful in the larger clinics, because many different doctors will see a patient before the due date
Because there needs to be at least some objective frame of reference among the different doctors, the fundal height is still a good idea. It's not great, but is easy...and free. Ultrasound would make more academic sense, but is prohibitive from a cost standpoint when attempted on every visit. Like no two scales reading the same weight the same, also no two doctors are going to measure the same fundal height the same. But if a different doctor gets a discrepancy that's wildly different from what was expected based on the previous doctor's fundal height last visit, then ultrasound is justified. This is not very exact science, but it works remarkably well in the larger clinics.
Relying on fundal height as above must take into account explainable discrepancies. For instance, a baby who has \";dropped\"; between the last visit and the current one may show a fundal height less than last visit! A simple pelvic exam can determine the descent of the baby's head into the maternal pelvis to explain this. If a baby's turned sideways, as often occurs in mid-pregnancy, the fundal height can be unusually short for what's expected, because the greatest dimension lies across the horizontal. A breech baby, usually sitting up high in the uterus, will yield an unusually large fundal height. These are all circumstances that can defuse concerns over abnormal fundal heights. So it's obvious that it would not be a good idea to revise a due date based on a fundal height. The old Charity Hospital trick I use (we used to get people landing there with no prenatal care), is to judge the height of the fundus in relation to the umbilicus (belly button). Generally, the pregnancy is halfway (about 20 weeks) when the fundal height is palpable (felt) at the umbilicus. For every finger's width above the umbilicus the fundal height reaches, you can add a week. Likewise, below the umbilicus, subtracting a week. But this relationship is only applicable between 15 and 25 weeks. Before and after that this relationship goes out the window.
In summary, the fundal height is an antiquated and sometimes obsolete method of judging the appropriate growth of the baby during a pregnancy. It's best use is in large clinics and when a patient presents as a surprise with no prenatal care. But in small private practices, it is superseded by consistent same-physician evaluations throughout the pregnancy.
2003-10-13
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Name: Vindhya Subject: Doing OK
Hi Avi,
Hope you had a good weekend. I did go to Target and bought some baby clothes. It's a good place to start with. Couldn't make it to Babies R'Us, though.
Did you take your hospital tour?
You have an appointment today, right. The internal exam one. Good luck.
I had an appointment on Friday, and the bad news is that the fundal height is measuring only 30 1/2 which is almost three weeks behind now. We did show the report from the 3D U/S and the doctor didn't seem too satisfied. She said that if there is four weeks difference, then she will order an ultrasound. I am feeling extremely sad about it.
Vindhya
2003-10-13
#4
Name: Avi Subject: good to get it over with..
Vindhya, looks like when the baby grows out of the infant car seat.. he/she will usually be ready to go directly into the stroller and we will then need to buy another/bigger car seat and use it by itself...atleast that's what the babiesRus person had to say about the system we bought...
and yes, I wanted the one in Navy Blue and I got it...
I did breeze over the diaper bag section and didn't feel a connection with any one in particular.. you know, you have a feeling when you see something - yes, it and I belong together kinda feeling -
so didn't buy it ... :)
but, there is so much of selection out there for everthing, its crazy... and hard to choose one..
Thanks Vindhya, I hope if she does do the U/S tomorrow, everything goes as smoothly as possible.... my fingers are crossed...we'll see... :)
I hope by your next appointment, everything will be fine... and gets back to normal....so that you can get some relief... will pray for you...
I am sure your little angel is doing just fine...send her lots of love and positive vibes from me... :)
2003-10-13
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Name: Vindhya Subject: Most important thing done
Hi Avi,
Buying the travel system is almost like done with shopping. Did you check the replacing car seat facility thing? Hope you got the color you wanted.
Ultrasound tomorrow! Have fun seeing the baby, you will be relieved to know everything is fine. Good luck.
Glad that you are done with your hospital tour. Atleast you know where to go now.
About empty spaces, even I do see black empty spaces in the pictures. We'll know for sure what they are incase I get an utlrasound. Not that I want it, but atleast I'll get some relief.
Did you buy the diaper bag?
Vindhya
2003-10-13
#6
Name: Avi Subject: trying to be positive
Vindhya, Keeping ourselves as postive as we possibly can is always a good thing and yeah I try to do it whenver I start worrying about how the baby is doing..
"empty spaces"... I wonder what she meant by that...I never heard it before either... YOu are right about the doc thinking that the 3D was for taking-good-pics purposes only...cause my doc said the same when I told her I was going for the 3D thing and asked her if that was ok - "Oh, that's just fine...you will get good pics"..
My doc said she might do it (Ultra Sound) tomorrow.... so will know my fate tomorrow :)...
BTW, we did get the hospital tour thing over with on saturday...didn't learn anything new there....saw some newborns in the nursery - they are so tiny...other than that..it was pretty uneventful...
Did go to Union City - babiesRus - and bought the Graco Quattro System...i didn't find it to be too heavy.. a nice system indeed (thanks to Arshiya for all the info)..done with the most important thing..
Target sure is a good place for immediate/basic needs..glad you checked it out...
Keep the faith... and :)
2003-10-13
#7
Name: Vindhya Subject: Feel much relieved
Hi Avi,
Thanks for being such a great support.
Sorry to hear about your fundal height, hope you don't worry too. I am sure everything will be fine.
You have collected so much information about it, thank you for sharing. It is relieving.
I don't know why my doctor was not very satisfied with the U/S report. May be she thought they do it just for the pictures and not for the actual measurements. She was asking about the empty spaces in the picture, I had no idea what they were. The technician never mentioned anything about it.
We'll see how it goes.
When is your U/S scheduled?
Vindhya
2003-10-13
#8
Name: Avi Subject: dont be so sad
Hey Vindhya, Sorry to hear about Friday's not so good appointment...I can understand how stressful this must be for you..
I thought an ultrasound is a better predictor of baby's health than fundal height...I wonder why your doc wasn't happy with the report you showed her..that is quite strange..
cause if they aren't satified with the progress of the fundus, they do send you in for an ultrasound (like she told you she would) to make sure that the baby is doing ok...
I know it's hard, but do try and keep your spirits up..
I have my appointment tomorrow and I dont know if she would do the internal of not but she said she said she might do an ultrasound to check if the postion of the baby and also check my fundus (cause I was measuring small too at my last visit)...
Man, I am a bit tired of all these worries - aren't you??? I hope we all get through the next few weeks ASAP...
Vindhya, try not to worry...cause there is nothing we can do it about it but take care of ourselves and hope for the best..
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