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2005-12-28
Name: radha



Please help. Need guidance from you all.

I am an India based DIL, and my problem is again the typical problem of not being to adjust with MIL.

I have been married for 5+ years and have a 4 yr old son. It was an intercaste love marriage. We stay with my MIL (no FIL) since 4 years (since my son was born). Hubby and me are working and earn v well. When I go to office, my kid stays with my MIL and a female maid. The maid does 99% of house work when I am away and does almost everything for the kid. MIL - you can say - is just a supervisor but - I have seen many times - she doesnt do 100% justice to the supervisor's job as well.
She is not financially dependant on us.

When MIL decided to stay with us, my hubby had told me that his mom is a very dominating and a short-tempered person. She believes she is the best and has so much ego that he has not seen it in anybody in the world (she doesnt even spare my 4 yr kid for that).

When MIL and we started living together- as has happened with most of you - she started pointing out my mistakes and creating scenes. The peace of house would break every 7 days for stupid reasons. Sometimes I was wrong and sometimes I was not. I used to stay quite and say 'Sorry' to her. But i started getting tensed about 'when next will the bomb blast'. Thus, I stated staying tensed and depressed all the time. My office work laod added to it.

As days passed by, she started pointing out more on my habits, my manners - particularly because of my different culture. Once, she went ahead to almost blame my upbringing (parents)! That was it. I lost my cool, and shouted on her like anything.

I remember had shouted loudly on her - that I too dont like 100 things in you and your culture, but as I have accepted you all, you have to accept me as i am. (Though I have changed a lot after marriage. I have totally left my culture and accepted theirs.)

But she has not changed.
But now - when she starts something, I just reply rudely and bluntly, and walk into my room. Then the communication between her and me totally stops and this goes on for days-to-month till something (relatives visit/function) re-establishes the need to communicate.

This behaviour gives me a mental peace that now home-peace will not break after every 7 days. When there is no talking, she doesnt create a scene or blame me'. I live my life peacefully and dont care about her at all.

I dont want to show only my side to you all. I want you to point out whats exactly wrong & right.
Big positives of having her in family are -
1. there is an elder family person in the house when I am away. Kid is safe. I am relaxed in office. Also, though the kid doesnt learn good things staying with MIL, at least he doesnt learn bad things from illiterate maid.
2. She was a working person and hence understands things. She gives total support and encouragement in terms of job and promotions. Even suggested me to study if I wanted to (well, but if I am in the house, she wont enter kitchen!).

But I am not able to balance between her positives and my stress. I asked myself if I am anyway dependant on her. As for my son, I can leave to maid or if need be, change my job to a simpler one.
Practically speaking, in the long run, she would become weaker, and has to stay with us, and I would be the one who will HAVE to take care of her as she becomes old and helpless. She doesnt think like this - thanks to her ego - she believes she can stay alone with servants and her relatives are better people than her family.

Am I going right? Is it ok to continue like this or there is something I can change?

radha
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2006-05-23
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Anonymous Name: Lakshmi
Subject:  Reply to Radha



Hi Radha,
Even I have the same problem like yours, ours is a state where we cannot deny our inlaws and HAVE to take care inspite of all the adversities. To tell you even my MIL is financially dependent on us. But do you what is my agony? I can't say SHE financially, she behaves as if its all hers, and in case I need to buy anything precious I need to spend my own money and should not ask husband. The other day my husband has got me gold eartops and you know what she says over that\";we have bought you this\";...I wonder what does she mean by saying we.....even I can say I got for myself.....as legally husband's is all mine I am his spouse.......well I am looked upon as an outsider and behaves as if I am staying in HER house....while every single ruppee is spent by my husband.....and rest all problems are same as yours exctly yours and yah she is highly superstitious and forces me to follow all shit......well THE SOLUTION EVEN I HAVE NOT FOUND I would love to get separated from my inlaws but what to do......they do not have anything of their own and also we cannot run two-two houses........I feel the only solution is NOT to change yourself(the way I have done to some extent, even we are cross cultural)and be as you were....that's it as I have learnt that the more you try to listen to them and follow the more will they sit on your head........Anyways....if you could find some solution kindly let me know......even I am desparate and very tensed because of my Mil.
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2006-05-23
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Anonymous Name: Lakshmi
Subject:  Reply to Radha



Hi Radha,
Even I have the same problem like yours, ours is a state where we cannot deny our inlaws and HAVE to take care inspite of all the adversities. To tell you even my MIL is financially dependent on us. But do you what is my agony? I can't say SHE financially, she behaves as if its all hers, and in case I need to buy anything precious I need to spend my own money and should not ask husband. The other day my husband has got me gold eartops and you know what she says over that\";we have bought you this\";...I wonder what does she mean by saying we.....even I can say I got for myself.....as legally husband's is all mine I am his spouse.......well I am looked upon as an outsider and behaves as if I am staying in HER house....while every single ruppee is spent by my husband.....and rest all problems are same as yours exctly yours and yah she is highly superstitious and forces me to follow all shit......well THE SOLUTION EVEN I HAVE NOT FOUND I would love to get separated from my inlaws but what to do......they do not have anything of their own and also we cannot run two-two houses........I feel the only solution is NOT to change yourself(the way I have done to some extent, even we are cross cultural)and be as you were....that's it as I have learnt that the more you try to listen to them and follow the more will they sit on your head........Anyways....if you could find some solution kindly let me know......even I am desparate and very tensed because of my Mil.
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2005-12-28
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Anonymous Name: Viv
Subject:  Guidance with MIL



Radha,

You pointed out some good things about your MIL. She encourages you to improve yourself. And, even though she does not help around the house nor with caring for your child, you said that you feel that your child is safe when she is around.

Because she is educated, she feel superior to the maid and also just about every one else. Let the maid care for the child and the house. You can assign your MIL to teach your son. This way, her ego won't be hurt. Let your hubby do this. It will stoke her ego and make her feel good.

You should stay out of the house as much as possible. WHen you are not at the office, take your son on long drives and walks. Eat out at restaurants with your child - it will be quite a learning experience for him.

Avoid your MIL like a plague, and be extra nice to her especially when hubby is around. When you feel like trouble is brewing and she's about to start a fight, leave her home and take baby and hubby out for fresh air.

My MIL is the same...such ego! Acting all helpless when her son and FIL around, but such insulting mouth when they are not...she is NOT nice to my children and make my hubby (her son) cry so many times, but that's another story...

Keep the faith and hold your tongue, especially when hubby is around. He will love, repect, and admire you more for putting up with his mother's attitude. You will look like a saint next to her...and hubby will notice...even if not right away.

Lots of luck and God bless.
Take care,
Viv
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2005-12-28
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Anonymous Name: anon
Subject:  you are better than me



I too have a mil who thinks she is the best in the world and all others are not worthy. She too blames me for all the silliest things in the world and she has to, so that she can feel better by putting me and my parents upbringing down. Nothing great in her behaviour. But atleast for you, your mil allows your personal growth like she asks you to study further. my mil hates to see me progress. She hates relatives and does not have friends. She is a loner whose ego needs to be fed on a daily basis. she is a widow and I too think its better to have an elderly lady at home. But she thinks that I want to keep her with us so that I can have her as my servant.
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2005-12-28
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Anonymous Name: Viv
Subject:  Anon - dealing with MIL



Your MIL is using the guilty card on your hubby. Be strong, girl...it's still his mother and when they use the 'I endure labor to bring you into this world', it is enough to make him stop in his track.

Can you make arrangement for her to keep visiting other relatives, children, etc? This way, she won't be with you always.

I had a friend with a similar situation. Her MIL was supposed to stay a little with each of her children. Anyway, though she hated my friend, she won't stay with her many daughters who mostly use her.

I hear you when you say 'whether she stays or not, she's pain' I believe you :) What I do is this -- use it as a learning lesson to not treat my DIL like she treat me when my son gets married. I even tell my son this from time to time. I'd tell him, 'make note to not behave like this when you are old since you know how much frustration these people give dad.' He agrees...smart child...he's 13 now.

Anyway, girl. You may just have to bear it for now. Remember, be as nice as you can when hubby is around. When he's not, then you can let out your steam.

Still, avoid her as much as you can. If MIL is making nasty remarks about you then tell her 'at least your son knows how smart and good I am. If you do not agree, that's your problem, not mine'

If MIL makes degrading remarks about your relatives and your upbringing, ask her this, 'Will you take my 'bad' family and trade with me your 'good' family? Why not?'

Or, to truly shut her up...at least for the time being: 'People have to put other people down to feel good about themselves...I pity them, not hate them.'

Or: 'I'm me and there's nothing you nor I can do about it'.

Once, my FIL, call me 'uneducated' becuase my son accidental knocked a hand towel down the line. We didn't know my MIL took a liking to the darn old thing. I replied, 'You're right! I am not educated. I came from a long string of uneducated people. I am thankful for your son for picking me up from the gutter. I depend on your son, and therefore you to read and write for me'.

That was the one and only time they called me 'illiterate'. To this day, I privately find it hilarious!

Sometimes, when nothing else work, you have to give 'tit-for-tat' and keep your wits about you. Try to see the humor in it. I know it is bad to say this, but look at the bright side, at least you are not like her..

Love
Viv
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2005-12-28
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Anonymous Name: anon
Subject:  For viv



Hi viv

Thanks for your suggestions. You have asked me to avoid my mil as much as possible. But see the funny thing that is happening. To avoid all the mental torture that she was offering, we quit the house. She used to tell that she can live on her own and does not want to stay with me, now all of a sudden she wants to come and stay with us. She says that since she has taken pains all her life to bring her son to this state, we are obliged to take care of her now. Whether she stays with us or not, she is a pain.
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2005-12-28
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Anonymous Name: Viv
Subject:  Putting up with MIL from hell



Anon,

What's the use of having an elder in the house if she behaves like this? Is this what you want to teach your kids?

Many times my husband gets excited that he wants to bring his parents to live with us, but when they come, they are so mean to me and our kids that he'd cry and find some excuse to get rid of them (send them back home...we're in the USA). Many times they call me uneducated although I make more money then they can even dream of...even more than their son. They eat my food, live in my house, suck off us like leeches and still insult me. In the beginning, I used to complain to my husband, but I've learned to give them a dose of their own medicine - act all nice and lovey dovey when their son is around and then indifferent when he's not. They are not nice to my kids and if someone is not nice to my kids, I don't care if that person is a saint or the president himself - they cannot expect anything wholehearted from me.

They'd come and visit. Hubby will get all excited. Feel that they will watch the kids. But no, TV is more important to them than even picking up their grandchild from school which is 2 minutes away ust down the street. Hubby have to drive 2 hours to pick up the kids from school then go back to work. Well, I told him, they are HIS parents and HE needs to work that out with them - not me.

I will cook food for my kids and they will eat it. My FIL calls me 'dirty' yet they keep the room that they sleep in so filty! We have to fumigate the place each time they leave...yet I am the uneducated one (I'm a stockbroker!) and the dirty one (why do they take a clean room and make it dirty).

When there is no school and the kids are home, MIL & FIL will eat every hour but will not even offer my kids food. They will yell at my kids for no reason. There are days that hubby will have to go shopping 3 times per day. When they come to the US, they are all skinny but after a month or 6 weeks, they'd go back home so fat. I am amazed to see old people each like starving street urchins. My MIL always complaints that she has High Blood PRessure. When I check her 'medication' they were nothing but Vitamins pills and calcium pills. Another time she came and insisted that my son was drinking her pressure pills. My son was taking Claritin for allergies. Apparently, her 'pressure pills' we children's Claritins for pollen allergies.

Keep the faith. Still be kind to you MIL, but don't let her get under your skin. Avoid her as much as possible and do everything you can to stay away from her. Keep yourself and kids in your room if you can't leave the house. Read while they color or play on the internet. Take to your friends. Have fun without her. Show her that she has no control over your life.


Best of luck.
VIv
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