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Miscarriage and Child Loss:She Cries-He Sighs (READ THIS!!!)
2006-12-11
Name: K.Radha



I have read so many posts from women who feel like their hubby doesn't care or doesn't feel the same sense of loss. I know this article isn't necessarily going to make your loss any easier but it might help you to understand why it is you behave SO differently...

She Cries - He Sighs

The differences between men and women and how they grieve:

HE: \";Big Picture\";
HE: \";Thinks\";
HE: \";Logical\";
HE: \";Copes Internally\";
HE\"; \";Sighs\";

SHE: \";Details\";
SHE: \";Feels\";
SHE: \";Intuitive\";
SHE: \";Copes Externally\";
SHE\"; \";Cries\";

Potential Relationship Problems

*SHE needs to talk about the event. She goes over it time and again trying to gather every possible detail to explain why and how.
*HE feels uncomfortable dealing on such a \";feeling\"; level and finds excuses to avoid such confrontations.


*SHE takes comfort in her faith. \";God's will\"; may be the only explanation that gives any meaning to the event.
*HE is angry with God, feeling that the event invalidates his religion.


*SHE often wants to visit the grave.
*HE feels an aversion to visiting the cemetery.


*SHE withdraws, reads books on grief, and writes as a means of expressing her pain.
*HE throws himself into his work, hobby, or other activities to keep busy and avoid the pain.


*SHE expects him to grieve and behave the same as she does and thinks he doesn't care when he does.
*HE needs space to grieve in his own way and resents her for imposing her feelings on him.


*SHE seeks support groups as an outlet for her expression.
*HE wants to avoid showing his pain in front of other people, particularly strangers.


*SHE has no interest in sex and resents his desire for it at this time.
*HE wants to make love for the comfort and reassurance that comes through intimacy.


*SHE knows that her life is irrevocably changed and will never be the same again.
*HE wants her and their life back the way it was before the event.


*THEY can sometimes compete with each other to see who is grieving the hardest.
*THEY seek to escape the event by taking a vacation, moving, changing jobs, etc.
*THEY seek to numb their pain through alcohol, drugs, shopping, extramarital affairs, etc.
*THEY feel betrayed by their family and friends through their perceived lack of understanding and caring.
*THEY are both so caught up in their own grief that there is no recognition or understanding of the grief experienced by their children or extended family members.

I hope that this will be of some help to the members of this forum! Many blessings to you, your families & your precious angel babies!
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2007-06-26
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Anonymous Name: gk
Subject:  baby



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2007-01-02
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Anonymous Name: AY
Subject:  Dragged myself to work



Thanks for your message Radha. Feeling much better today.I wanted to go to the cemetery all day along on anniversary but didn't physically feel up to driving there myself and didn't have the emotional strength either to initiate conversation regarding this to hubby.At 6:00 in the evening my husband suggested on his own we go to the cemetery himself.The main gates were closed by the time we reached and it was dark but we got in through side gates.When there, I was thinking if my baby was brought out even after months of being buried, I would not hesitate to hold him . I saw a documemtary on TV that apes hang on to their dead babies till all that is left are bones.
I know it sounds crazy but that's what I was thinking. Felt so much at peace after coming back.Was also glad that my parents and friends didn't call to convey New Year Wishes.Made me believe that everyone remembered.
As for trying for baby, we really started only in October.I was told to wait for 6 months because of C-section .I was so sure it would happen before anniversary comes around as I had no problem conceiving in the past.So it hasn't been too long but I know things would have been relatively easier if I was pregnant.I literally stare at newborns at malls and stores and wish I had mine with me too.
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2007-01-03
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Anonymous Name: K.Radha
Subject:  hi!



I think your thoughts are perfectly normal AY and if they give you comfort there is little more than you can ask for. I think it is wonderful that your husband suggested you visit Ashyan's grave, especially when you ddin't feel comfortable suggesting it yourself. He cares a great deal more than we might ever realise. I hope in time that New Years will become a happy event where you remember Ashyan without too much upset.

Waiting that 6 months must have been so hard! I am still waiting for permission to try again and there are some days it gets the better of me. But you're able to try now and soon enough you'll hopefully be pregnant. A lot of women don't conceive straight away, but patience is a hard lesson to learn.

I didn't know that apes morned their little ones just like we do, somehow that makes me feel a little better knowing this... What I do know is how seeing a new born reminds us of our lost angels & causes us to want another child even more. All I can suggest is that you keep your hopes of another child and be patient because it will come.
Keep smiling
Kate
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2007-01-01
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Anonymous Name: AY
Subject:  Hi



hi K.Radha,

Coming to this site after a long time.Today is Jan 1st and first anniversary of still birth of my son.Its seems even harder than it was when i lost him. May be it was sedation from drugs, physical pain of c-section
and shock that made me numb. I had hoped that we would be pregnant once again by the time anniversary comes around but that hasn't happened either.My husband has no hugs to offer and has got no words of comfort.
I am just lost. I stopped visiting websites as I began to feel that I was getting obsessed with them but here I am back again for support.
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2007-01-15
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Anonymous Name: sudha
Subject:  hi



dear ay,
i am too visiting this site after a long long time . i know how it feels even i had stoped visiting for the same reason . even i lost Rishona on 4th nov 2006 .... dont losse hope .... give ur body and mind some time .. the miracale will happen soon . e might be trying from april ...... i would xtend my warm hugs and kisses dont loose faith and hope who was meant to go had gone . but all will be well
love
sudha
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2007-01-02
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Anonymous Name: K.Radha
Subject:  dear Ay



Dearest AY,

I am sorry that you don't have another baby in your arms but if it helps I too have passed the one year mark without another little one to look forward to. Are there any specific reasons why you've not conceived? Have you asked your doctor to investigate any under lying medical causes? Pregnancy is no easy task, we all assume it to be a very easy thing to occur but it's really very difficult. These things just take time, I know that is the last thing you want to hear but time is a great healer.

I know that initially the body does go into shock which numbs some of the pain... Slowly we begin to understand what it really means to have lost our child but it is a slow process. To the best of my knowledge it is normal to find that months or years after loosing a child you can feel like you're back at day one. Or worse. I was very excited about Ishani's birthday but in the end I was very depressed. The anniversary of the funeral really hit me hard, I cried for 3 days straight. I can see your point about needing to avoid the forums, it can be a negative reminder... For some it is helpful, for others it only serves to keep the wound from healing.

Child loss is something that stays with you, there are days you'll feel fine and other days when you'll be feeling like you can't go on. As for your hubby, it probably isn't that he is insensitive to your needs, he might just be unaware. Its possible that he feels Ashyan has gone onto a happier place and he is comfortable accepting that. I think most men are just oblivious to what their wives are going through and unless we tell them they're no help.

You've been through a very tough year AY. How soon after bubby's birth did you go back to work? 6 weeks??? Thats a major accomplishment in my opinion. It would have taken strength and energy few could have found but you did it. On top of this you were a caring mother to your little girl and all the while you greived for Ashyan. Maybe your body feels you're in need of a break even if you feel otherwise. But having said that I do share your desire, if not need, to have another child. The sooner the better.

See if your doc can't help you to conceive somehow... A year of trying is long enough to have waited so do see if there might be some hormone imbalance or something. Feel free to post here if you're feeling down or anything, it might not be straight away but I will always reply and be of help where possible. I hate to sound cliche but try to keep positive for your daughters sake and don't forget that no matter what Ashyan is always going to love his momma.
Luv n Hugs
Kate
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