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Bowel and Bladder Movements:To ruchika, hi.
2007-01-18
Name: Supriya for all black or white stuffs in poop, you say it is worms.
its not at all recommended that anti-worm medicine has to be given every 6months. for my 1st kid i never gave it.

after reading your reply to NP, i thought may be it is a new rule or guideline and i got worried that my second kid needs it.i called my ped and he said it is not at all required until baby actually has it.
i asked him the symptoms of baby having worms,he said when baby has worms -
his poop is of normal colour, and is either very thin or sticky and some babies are able to throw out the worms in the poop, his stomach remains bulged and often you can hear some rumbling sound that is like he is hungry but he doesn't eat when you give food, his apetite goes down totally and he gets mild fever that does not end even after fever medicine.he also said that some babies get rashes.what you said about teeth stammering is what i agree that it matches to what my ped told.my ped told the same thing that if child does it in sleep then it could be one of the reasons.

So, please don't share wrong information.
people here take advices quite seriously. if someone gives medicines when he sees your reply about giving some medicine just because you think its compulsory to give and if it becomes a serious health problem, are you going to take the responsibility of your advices ?
i saw your posts in sleeping and feeding boards also.
share your personal experience like everybody does but don't make it compulsory or try to be professional.
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2007-01-18
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Name: Supriya
Subject:  To ruchika and " doesnt matter"
hey i stay in India and i have read in many posts of ruchika that she is from japan but is indian.
if it was compulsory for her kid, let her keep it to herself why she needs to command on others that even if your baby has worms or not, give the freaking anti-worm syrup every 6months.

\" doesnt matter\" whoever you are, you are making it general that people in india always boil all the things that they give to baby. my doctor never recommended me to boil the sippy cups. bottle or nipples i will agree as doctors do advice that.
i didn't say ruchika was right or wrong, i only said that don't give wrong information about things like anti-worm syrups etc. many of us stays outside india or in india also there are people like me who live in single family without any guidance from elders. we rely on these sites and replies, believe it or not. there is nothing wrong in it as far as we are checking with our ped the same things and then only trying. but, all i have to say is if you are sharing your personal experience everyone welcomes it, but don't make it compulsory.

and after reading what maya and jigna said, i too have the same reply. there is a way when you write or suggest to someone. writing notions like \" who said..\" \" see your baby is this and that....\" \" all babies get choked by smoke\" etc is insulting to the one who posts the message. she first advices that let your mother in law do the kali mirch smoke in someone posts and the next day, she says that all babies choke with smoke. she knew it still she adviced it.

just for the heck of advertising her yahoo group in which most of the posts of indiaparenting are being copied and pasted in her own name, as if she has written all that looks weird to me.
in one of the replies there is no answer or sense in answer but her yahoo group link. she is advertising it so strongly,so i thought let me join but all the posts are copied from here ! so i came back here. there are some 200 and above members but daily activity only few replies and console to eachother instead of sharing some sensible things. i found ip boards better than her group.

if you are not sure about something, why you have to advice ? tell it frankly that you don't have idea about it but don't try to create a compulsion of things.

i was really worried after reading her reply so i posted my message.i was worried because my second one is having loose motions, so i logged in to post my query. i get my answers by browsing through the previous replies of hetal and other members so i was doing the same thing. with the condition that my child was suffering with loose motions, i was reading about anti-worm syrup and for a while i thought that let me try it and see. but second thought came from other post where it was well explained about loose motions and i called my ped for an appointment and all this issue was discussed.
i didn't knew there were others too who had the faced the same problem and that this would create an issue. my post was for ruchika and i want her to reply instead of anyone else.
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2007-01-18
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Name: ruchika
Subject:  supriya
hi supriya ,
hope my points are clear now u can very well ask me anything else which bothers u about me.
and i m not at all forcing any body to do anything wat i say about medicines no body give medicine without consulting doctor or asking any good chemist (dont know about u)
and about motherhood ablessing group there are already some 250 members i tell other about that group so that they can join (IF ONLY THEY WANT) and othermember there in group also get benefit. u may be new to ip i know ip since 2004
bye
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2007-01-18
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Name: Arpita
Subject:  Hai
i am from india too. i live in joint family and my doctor never recommended me boiling sippy cup.he said as far as its washed properly with good detergent and washed thoroughly with running water it is as good as sterilizing.

bottles and nipples we boil it to maintain hygine and our babies are also very small.so we take care to sterilize the bottles and nipples.But, i have never heard of boiling sippy cups nor anti-worm syrup.
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2007-01-18
#4
Name: doesnt matter
Subject:  I hv a head on my shoulders, do you?
Ruchika!

I may be a new mom.
I may be a new mom in US (it means i use things and trends here, and hv no elders/relatives around to guide like in india)
I may be a new mom in India
I may be a new/old/second timer mom in india or usa

Whatever.

If you tell me that something in the babies/kids poop may be worms so needs to be de-wormed, of course i will go to doctor. You dont know whats happening actually from that far and doctor is actually seeing it. If he says its worms, fine. He will treat it. If its not worms, he will tell what it is and to needs to be treated or not.

You did your job of telling me. Did it help me? Were you right? Ofcourse it helped me. Finally, i have addressed the problem and thats what i wanted.

You have asked me to check if the black/white things move and not asked me to blindly believe they are worms. You have asked me to assume they are worms only when they move.

I think this info is enough. I dont need more details.

For kids who are 1+ year and exposed to unhygenic places, may get affected with worms. this is a high probability case in india. My doctor has recommended periodic de-worming for my kid. But yes, it is also true that doctor recommended that after he first detected the worms and said kid does not need de-worming till you detect it first. When he saw this trend with my child, he recommended periodic de-worming. Secondly, my kid is older - he is 5 yrs.

So periodic de-worming is needed or not, depends on age, circumstances. For babies, we should anyway check with doctor before jumping to conclusions or becoming excessively alarmed by reading something on internet. I think that is common sense.

About boiling sippy cups. May not be necessary in US. May not be needed in Indian where hygiene and cleanliness is maintained. But yes, majority houses in India would be recommended for boiling milk bottles and sippy cups (those that can be boiled) for Babies. (as child grows up, he develops resistance, so can be trained accordingly) But yes, in homes where too many people handle the baby or baby's things, or use kitchen and toilets .. then this is recommended. Now, we have seen indian mothers who have such family conditions but have brot up babies witout sterilising bottles. Lets leave it to them, for, mothers like us who are \" so sensitive and take information so seriously as mentioned by someone above\" we will not take chances.

And all that i am saying, is common and we all know it, or can guess it, or should be able to guess it. We have lived in india and seen things there. We are educated. We read internet. We read pregnancy sites and baby sites. We can compare articles and suggestions before jumping to conclusions.

We know that advises given here are to be used at our responsibility.
We know that a person sitting so far can only judge things on its face value and suggest accordingly and that the doctor is the best person to tell.

We also know that before giving anything to baby we should check it with right person like doctor or expert.

And for those who do not know these things, then they know it now. So please start using the head on your shoulders. You may be new mothers so untrained but are not illeterate nor uneducated to take things so seriously.

If you dont think Ruchika is right, check with your doc.

Ruchika, Do not get disappointed by such messages for you. You hv done your job of suggesting and helping. Now its for the people to use their common sense.
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2007-01-18
#5
Name: ruchika
Subject:  for doesnt matter
hello doesnt matter,
thankyou very much for making these points clear to every body.

thankx once again.
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2007-01-18
#6
Name: mumma
Subject:  i agree to DoesntMatter
you are right
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2007-01-18
#7
Name: maya
Subject:  same frm me
by reading some reply of her i am shocked..she says that we need to boil sippy cup like feeding bottles.and that too she asks\" who said u not to boil sippy cups\" ...plz dunt reply if u dunt know the answer
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2007-01-18
#8
Name: ruchika
Subject:  for jigna
hi jigna,
comments noted ..sometimes we say something in some manner and it is understand by others in some other manner same happens when we post something here we mainly forgets the gramer and just think it is ok .
and i m not at all any teacher or something i m like any other mother here who just try to write her experience wat she get with her daughter.
bye
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2007-01-18
#9
Name: ruchika
Subject:  to maya
hi maya,
well i have written about boiling sipper coz my daughters sipper is " goodbaby one" it has a rubber pipe and a rubber rim its not a cup sipper that's why i boil it taking that pipe out .
my main motto after boiling it is just keeping hygine .this is it

i dont think i need to take lessons on hygine from any doctor .

and i said i do it i never forced anybody else to do same.

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2007-01-18
#10
Name: Jigna
Subject:  same here
we don't sterilize or boil sippy cup. it is not at all required. also for my kids i never sterilized the bottles, i used to sterilize only the nipples according to what i was told in my infant care classes.
i used to use the bottle liners and we don't sterilize them either!
i happen to have my appointment today for my child vaccinations and before going to ped i always check IP so that i can verify it with my doctor.today also i asked about anti-worm but doctor said it is not at all required.

i agree with you guys, the language she used was quite commanding like " who said you not to.." and in one post " see your baby is.." as if she is explaining like a big teacher.
in sleeping board also she has done the same thing.
ruchika, we like everyone replying and sharing their personal experience but don't make it compulsory if you think it was.
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