Views on Article - Dark Circles Name: Suman Country: india Comment: divya pl let me know when can i contact u. where r u working. Name: Shipra Country: india Comment: I have dark circle under my eyes & black pigmantation plese help me as soon as possible. Name: Country: middleeast Comment: hey i m having dark circle n my eyes are gone inside n i hate my face just of this Name: rosee Country: india Comment: i'm fair and i hav dark circles which shows off plzz giv sme suggestion Name: Pharmb335 Country: australia Comment: Very nice site! Name: jacqueline ling Country: india Comment: In India we have Aroma theraphy products by Dr Blossom Kocchar for under eye dark circles and it really works.The under eye cream,glossy pack and pigmentation serum are used to fade away the dark circle.try it. Name: india Country: usa Comment: i have dark cicles and it makes me so uncomfortable but `fenngreek and mikk are said to tackle dark circles around your eyes im trying it today keep you updated Name: Pharme784 Country: australia Comment: Very nice site! Name: amani Country: england Comment: Hi Visitor, I have dark brown circles and the im not too sure what the specific name was for the laser, think it was just your normal red laser! This is supposed remove the top layer of darkend skin. Name: visitor Country: england Comment: Amani,do u have black dark circle around eyes and which laser was used,was it erbium? Name: Country: england Comment: Has anyone tried Nur76? I've heard good stuff about their skin lighting creams so have started using the one spedcifically for dark cicles. It's only been 2 days yet havnt seen any diffrence but will keed you updated Name: amani Country: england Comment: Hi all just thought I'd let everyone know the treatment for dark cicles I had at Manchester laser clinic was a rob, they charged me £600 and then tryed to charge me more on top for an additional treatment when the original treatment didnt work anyway. Even tried to get a refund but couldnt as you have to sign a no refund form, this explains why! So nobody use Manchester Laser Clinic! Name: Kismat Country: usa Comment: I've used the Revitalume for 6 weeks and at first I thoughtr there was a difference but can safely say my circles are exactly the same! :( Name: joejoe Country: other Comment: I just wanted to say that Nannic Skin Tone Balancer didn't work at all for me. The search continues... Name: jessica Country: usa Comment: it doesn't sound anything new but drinking milk help you to have a deep refreshing sleep. although it doesn't make dark circles disappear completely overnight, it makes them appear lighter and relaxed. milk contains triptophane in very absorbable form to give you a good sleep. waking up refreshed and energetic for a day is all that matters. really. what you see yourself is more important than what others think of you superficially. Name: Pharmd656 Country: australia Comment: Very nice site! Name: visitor Country: thailand Comment: Hollywood Eye Magic is a scam. Name: joejoe Country: other Comment: After having no luck with Hollywood Eye Magic, I have now picked up a cream called Nannic Skin Tone Balancer. The cream is supposed to be effective against hyperpigmentation and age spots, but someone supposedly got rid of his dark circles with it as well. I've personally not seen any improvement after my first week of using it, but I will keep at it and report back if it indeed turns out to be effective. Name: aqgjiop saetzvqpl Country: australia Comment: mtrbh jmuknflzy riohjxnz kuvmndjsa wqmshjvek svowp gkfdcs zcgeu bwjncml Name: tireo gasm Country: australia Comment: osavyftcq drptil xvwdkgyh zngrlwkmf sawtzocrj xhtbozj gjawlzk Name: Kismat Country: usa Comment: I've just ordered the Revitalume, I'll keep you updated. Name: Kismat Country: usa Comment: Any one heard of Revitalume? It promises to do the trick and dramatically reduce dark circles, from experience I've learnt not to trust such hopefull comments! Anyone tried it? Name: cqkzjxsh blfoysprn Country: australia Comment: bsnfxidzt gvfdkojuh yhwgmptbc iotrvhug aurg xilydmwnk awre lapqk qwnvp Name: bqinzkw wetm Country: australia Comment: lzkb plai enbsv kgcnpvq zwtuox lzabgqe qlkctne Name: nishu Country: india Comment: i have dark circle under my eyes Name: nishu Country: india Comment: i have got dark circlrs under my eyes Name: Restylyn Country: usa Comment: Hi - good luck to you two that mentioned you are going to try restylyn. Please make sure you get a doctor experienced in injecting it under the eye for ark circles that is the most important part. Also I was REALLY swollen and puffy for about two days after. From there I was fully cured. GOOD LUCK Name: A Country: england Comment: Hi Jaz,I aint had it done but I am considering it so please let me know how it goes, does sound quite expensive tho. Name: jaz Country: england Comment: i am gonna try restylane... wish me luck. has anyone had it done in england? Name: Anita Country: usa Comment: Do not use Hydrogen Peroxide under yours eyes, its only a temporary bleaching effect, in the end it will cause dryness which makes the skin look darker. HP also causes pre mature again. Its great for getting rid of pimples fast though, but don't use it for too long. Name: visitor Country: england Comment: restyln,that's exactly what I am saying,first one shud find the cause of DC and then go for various treatment like peel,botox,laser else one will waste money. Name: RESTYLYN Country: usa Comment: This page is not letting me post the link. The doctors name that I saw in Beverly Hills California is Dr. Steinsapir google his name and go to the site. There is alot of info about restylyn under the eyes and before and after pics. Name: RESTYLYN Country: usa Comment: My dc's are NOT from pigmentation. Here is a link to the dr I went to. You can read more about it and see a before and after pic. I will keep checking this site in case anyone has questions. I know how desperate I was to get rid of the dc's and now I have :) Name: Restylyn Country: usa Comment: Restylyn does work. It has been a miracle to me. Pigmentation is NOT the cause for most dark circles. If pigmentation were the cause that would mean the top layer of skin is what is dark and lasers and creams would work in that case. Since those things only target the top layer of skin. Name: visitor Country: england Comment: If you have black dark circle,you can use arginine peel twice a week and vitamin c cream twice a day and you can see results in one month.Arginine peel is mildest of all. Name: visitor Country: england Comment: Hi All,I had resty injected under my eyes but there was not much effect becuase they are cuased by pigmentation.so first visit a dermatologist and find the cause of DC.I wasted 900£ on that. Name: B Country: england Comment: Hi RESTYLYNE, How much would this cost and how long does it take to heal? Name: RESTYLYN Country: usa Comment: RESTYLYN is the only answer and only cure for dc's. Mine were horrible VERY dark almost looked black. I had no puffiness only the dark dark circles. I couldnt even cover them with layers of concealer. I knew people were staring at them when they talked to me close up. I hated them and tried everything to remove them creams, lasers etc. NO RESULTS. I had restylyn injected about a year ago and the results are still great. In about 6 more months I will probably go back and get some more injected. My results are AMAZING and the dc's are seriously 95% gone. I can even feel comfertable finally going out without foundation or concealer on and I looke great. Nothing to hide anymore :) Name: B Country: england Comment: I've been using the 3%hydrogen peroxide on my circles for a few weeks now and have seen no diiference, from my own personal experience I don't think this works. Name: John Greece Country: other Comment: I'm 20 years old and i have already been through a blepharoplasty.the doctor said my face is too young to cut skin on the down eyelift so he put some fat to make my eyes look smooth but the puffiness is the same not to mention that it costed 2,800euros.i've heard about eyeseryl and haloxyl; two ingredients that can reduce puffiness and dark circles.if any of you knows anything more plz let m know! Name: geet Country: india Comment: I have got dark circles under mi eyes which make me look old wrell i m just 20yrs i ve tried al d best possible products but it is not affective it is since i was 8.plzzzzzzzz culd u help me out wid dis i ll b really thankful 2 u all Name: visitor Country: england Comment: If you have black dark circle ,resty not gonna cure them. Name: visitor Country: england Comment: Check video on youtube which uses uses Dang Gui, Pearl Powder, and vitamin E oil to treat dark under eye circles. (watch?v=5suKsyMlTKA) Name: Hay Country: canada Comment: Hi young people with dark circles. if you think only yourself and dark circles you feel frustrated. it is problem and it is good think to get treatment but don't think it is disaster. It is good you think what do you have. how much life is good. many people haven't got home. job. food. and many people suffering from serious health problem. last 20 years I had injection 5 days a week some times very painfully. no problem this is life. Name: Leona Country: england Comment: Is distilled water the same as deionised water? As I ahve had trouble finding distilled water but a friend told me that deionised water could also be used as they are apparently pretty much the same thing. Could anyone shed any light on this? Name: My Dark Circles are gone Country: usa Comment: Esha - I have had the restylyn for 4 months now and the dark circles are still gone and it still looks the same as when I first got it done. You are right tho, this isnt a permanent solution. My dr told me I would probably need to get more injected in a year and a half or so. This is fine by me!!! I will do this every year and a half for the rest of my life. It's easy, you heal quickly in a few days. Do it on a Friday your back to work on Monday. The results are soooooooooo worth it. You wouldnt beilieve my before and after pics. I had realllllly bad dark circles and now I dont have any at all! My confidence level has gone way up because I actually can look people in the eyes and know they are looking into mine...not at the dc's. Also before when getting pic's taken I tried to look a certain angle that best minimized the dc's. Now I don't have to worry I can just be myself. Name: Jo Country: canada Comment: Hi there, I'm a 23 yrs old.From induced vomiting i have noticed that i developed really noticable veins underneath my eyes.There are red veins on my browbone & eyelids which i have never had before.Has aanybody expierenced this ever & is there anything to make there veins dissapear for good? Desperate! Name: Esha Country: england Comment: HI Dark Circles Gone, glad 2 hear you've had success but I was told that restyline, like botox would only last for about 6-8 months as it would eventually break down. Name: My Dark Circles are gone Country: india Comment: Answer: Restylyn!! I forgot to mention the best part of having my dc's gone. Not getting asked every single day of my life by other people "why I look so tired". I hated that the most because I always got a great sleep and would feel great in the morning until I looked in the mirror and saw that I looked like I hadn't slept in 100 years. I lovvve not getting asked that question anymore :) I just had to write that comment on here because I know that only people who suffer from dc's could ever know what that would feel like. Name: My Dark Circles are gone Restylyn Country: usa Comment: Restylyn really works. I did it and mine are 100% gone. You must find a skilled doctor though. Name: My Dark Circles are gone Restylyn Country: india Comment: Hi - I wrote a post awhile back saying my dark circles are gone now because of the restylyn injection I got (scroll down.) Its been over 3 months and they are still gone. Believe me this stuff works. My circles were so dark and I tried every cream etc out there nothing worked. I was very serious about getting rid of them and restylyn was my answer. Someone asked about getting swollen after the injection. The answer is yes I was VERY swollen and puffy for about two days after. I did the procedure Fri morn and was so puffy the whole weekend. Monday morning I woke up and I was completely back to normal. So there is a two day period of puffiness where you wont want to leave the house. The results are sooooooooo worth it. No cream or lotion or potion or laser will ever work. The top layer of skin is not whats dark so by putting this stuff on you are doing nothing. The darkness comes from wayyyy beneath the skin layers by the muscle and just shows through for people who have thin skin. You must "block" the darkness from showing through by filling the hollowness. Thats why restylyn works. Name: neelam rani Country: usa Comment: how to get rid of dark circle Name: Esha Country: england Comment: I agree Stephanie, people this website isnt 2 advertise your crap on , if it was any good I'm sure the world would know about it by now without your preaching!! Name: Stephanie Country: australia Comment: there is so much marketing on this website by people trying to sell their products. Repcillin does not work and neither does neem or hylexin. do not waste your money on these products i am telling you from experience. Name: janet Country: usa Comment: sorry, this may be just another hoax but I just read that some women would try preparation H cream (used for hemmoroid) for their undereye problem. I never tried it but what the hell nothing has been working anyway. I will give it a try and I let you know. Name: sherry Country: india Comment: can anyone give me a final solution on how to get rid of these dark circles Name: Shaalini Country: england Comment: using distilled water do not use normal tap water. Name: Amani Country: england Comment: I can not find anywhere that sells the 35% HP, but I will keep looking. How do I diute 35% HP and with what? Ho many parts do you suggest? bdw are you still seeing an improvement? Name: Shaalini Country: england Comment: Plz read my posts carefully i said dilute the 35% solution to a 3% concentration. u shud not be using more than 3% and 9% is a lot. plz stop and after a few days go back to the 3% by diluting the 35%. this will not burn ur skin Name: Amani Country: england Comment: Hi Shaalini, I bought 9% HP and it's actually burnt my skin after just using for 3 days! As for the 3% HP I think that once I have stopped using it my DCs actually look darker!! The skin around my eyes has become so sensitive and is also more red.I guess I'm back to square one!! Name: stuey Country: england Comment: I've had baggy eyes since I can remember and always embarrassed. Regular 8 hour sleep pattern helped but did not get rid of them, as did eating fruit everyday. But the best thing I've discovered for a long time is Eyesential. It's a lotion which dries invisible and you can actually see it work as you put it on. A temporary fix but it really does work. Asolutely no bagginess when it's on. Name: stuey Country: england Comment: I've had baggy eyes since I can remember and always embarrassed. Regular 8 hour sleep pattern helped but did not get rid of them, as did eating fruit everyday. But the best thing I've discovered for a long time is Eyesential. It's a lotion which dries invisible and you can actually see it work as you put it on. A temporary fix but it really does work. Asolutely no bagginess when it's on. Name: Shaalini Country: england Comment: I happened to hav the 35% solution as my mum uses it to gargle her teeth by diluting it first Name: Fathimah Country: singapore Comment: hey..i have read all ur entries on dark circles.which are gr8 2 hear..and im using a vitamin capsule 4 the past 1month.and its ok..its called the CENTRUM.it has got A-Zinc vitamins which are reaaly good enough 4 the body supplements...and i also do have dark circles.its betta then previous Dc.. Name: Amani Country: england Comment: Thanks for replying Shaalini! I am currently using the 3% solution, where can i get the 35% solution from? Bdw how long before you noticed an improvement? Name: Shaalini Country: england Comment: i am still seeing progress bt slowly i am thinking of increasing the number of times i soak the peroxide. if u r not seeing progress i suggest u increase the number of times u do this.do u use the store bought 3% solution of do u dilute the 35%? if u dont dilute using the 35% i suggest u do this as the store bought is not pure and less effective. Name: aditi Country: india Comment: i have dark circies from very long time,i think so it related to my weeknees,what am i do Name: Amani Country: england Comment: Hi Shaalini, Hope your still seeing progress! I've been doin the HP thing for a week now and have not seen any difference, how long before you noticed a difference? How long have you been doin it for now and what changes have you noticed? Name: dwuaiyjef ijrdnx Country: australia Comment: gteoxkrup dhygaztob lubefmhjd ehrq ofjuxa hmpig esqg qiwoj kfge Name: vsrt zutwojhgl Country: australia Comment: yahbo qsojfed ikmcvhqwx riptuwnvl hmclotwv sguvmywi rbxosdlmv Name: Shaalini Country: england Comment: dont do this before u go out cs it turns the skin red and it bcoms ok after a while. the best time is bed time and do it once a day for the first 3 days and then increase to two ad then eventually 3. this is how i did it Name: Amani Country: england Comment: Thanks Shaalini I appreciate the reply, i'm gna start this on the week-end! bdw should I drench or just enough to like rub in?? I'll give it a 2 week trial and let you all know if it worked on me Name: Shaalini Country: england Comment: First of all make sure as someone said before to buy the 3% solution not 35%. i got a q-tip and dip it in and apply to the eye. i did this 3 times a day and now they are way lighter Name: Amani Country: england Comment: hey guys, how many times a day would you suggest I apply the hydrogen peroxide and is there anything that I should be extra cautious with?How long befor yuo noticed a change? Name: Shaalini Country: england Comment: i can not believe that a simple solution like this would help my dark circles. it is a miracle i have been applying the hydrogen peroxide religiously and they are defnitely lighter i am just soooooo happy. i will keep u guys updated Name: jash Country: india Comment: it is best Name: Jyoti Country: india Comment: u cn buy from any drug store and yes i knw it has a lot of dangers bt that is only at the high dose which i think is 35% i am using the 3% bt i used it many times in a day. i was desperate for a solution Name: Surabhi Country: india Comment: i have dark circles under my eyes.i m really fed up with this problem. i read so many things about HOLLYWOOD EYE MAGIC, how will i get it and from where???? Name: sally Country: england Comment: BTW I ve'been using Hollywood eye magic for last 1 and half months but yet not got desired results.My DCs are black due to pigmentation. Name: sally Country: england Comment: Jyoti,for how many days are u using HP and from where did you buy it.The biggest problem is that if you research,you get very unclear idea about use of HP as some articles say that it is hazardous to use HP on skin as it may kill skin cells. Name: Jyoti Country: india Comment: my dark circles are starting to lighten with hydrogen peroxide. it is working Name: jodi Country: usa Comment: oh, and I should mention that I've had dark circles (purple, from veins) my entire life and had already tried laser surgery, Vita-K, Circle Clear, Dermalex, Hydrolyze, Sudden Change, St. Ives Vitamin K formula, clean & clear undereye brightening stick, and probably a few others. Hollywood Eye Magic is the first that has given me noticeable results. Name: jodi Country: usa Comment: well, I've continued to have good results from the Hollywood Eye Magic. It's gradual, but my eyes are better each day. I have freckles and I can actually SEE the freckles under my eyes now - I didn't even know they were there, because it's been so dark for so long. My circles haven't gone away completely, and I don't really expect them to. But it's so nice to wear way less makeup! joejoe, I'm sorry it hasn't been working for you... keep applying it, it can't hurt. I plan to give up caffeine too; I'm hoping that will help. Name: Tianna Country: england Comment: Hii everyone, have any of you ever used Nur76 and can safely say that it works? Name: joejoe Country: other Comment: I've been using Hollywood Eye Magic for a couple of days, and I've seen no improvement in my dark circles at all. None. Name: Amani Country: england Comment: Hi Dark Circles Gone, I done a bit of reserch on restylane injection and have found that there are some massive side effects and leave your eyes swollen/puffy for months or in extreme cases years. Are you sure this works safely? What are the costs for this? Name: sally Country: england Comment: Hi dark circle gone,were ur dcs black and around ur eyes or just beneath them. Name: dark circles gone Country: usa Comment: August 8, 2008 MINE ARE GONE!!!! I have had dark circles since I was 15. I am 25 now and have spent the past ten years of my life with horrific dark circles that made me look tired, fugly, hagly etc. There was no puffiness just very very dark. No concealer could cover them. I wouldnt even walk around my own house without gads of concealer on thats how ugly they were. I went to many dermotologists tried every cream out there etc. NO CURE. Until I moved to California. I saw an ad from a plastic surgeon claiming her could get rid of dark circles. This was interesting to me because I went to 3 plastic surgerons before who all told me eeven surgery wont remove them. Anyways long story short I ended up having restylin injected into my dark circles. I am cured! The results were instant as soon as he injected it they were 100% gone. This is because the restylyn fills out the holow area and masks the darkness from underneath the skin. For the first time in 10 years I go out of the house without any makeup on. I remember when I had the dark circles and I would see 50 year olds with no make up on and wondering how it was that they looked way better then me without make up. I feel so free and I can look people in the eyses now knowing they are looking back into mine and not staring disgustingly at the dark bag lady circles. Name: kay Country: england Comment: Hi everyone, well it surprising to see how many people are affecting with this dark circle under eyes. I had my since i was 13 years old. i try everything in the book u can think about, but funny enough i found a cure and didnt even realize that i did. i was a size 14 and decide to go on diet, because i always been a size 10 to 12. any way i started my diet, so all together i cut out salts, sugar no form of sugar i use sweenter instead of sugar if i have to have something sweet, i started living on low fat food, i dont cook with oils, if i have to use oil i use flora sunflower. and plenty of vegetables. with that i dont have any juices in box, i stick to still water plenty of that during my diet, and on day i woke up and look at myself and i notice a difference in my face, and i ws saying to myself i look different, but wat is different about me, and thats when it hit me, the dark circle under my eyes were getting lighter, before they were very dark, it was the first thing u could see on me before u see my face, and even my partner and friend start saying to me, the dark circle under your eye is fading away" and i said "i know" and from ever since, i not only stick to my diet for loosing weight but look at it for my dark circle not to come back, from then i never take sugar again, and i keep salt to a minium. its been over a year now since i my dark circle has minimize and never get back to the darkness it use to be. i remend alot of to try this for a 3 months and see how it goes, cut away from sugar totally and drink plenty of water, really alot of water. replace your sugar with sweenter if you have to have something sweet, keep away from fatty food and red meat, i only stick to chicken fish and veg, and come back and let me knw your result please, it work for me and i am sure it will work for you. Name: jodi Country: usa Comment: Hey, I ordered Hollywood Eye Magic and I've only been using it for a few days, but it's really helping. My circles were dark purple and they've faded to a dark pink color - several shades lighter. Supposedly Hollywood Eye Magic is intended more for puffiness and wrinkles, but I don't really have those problems and it's working wonders to lighten my dark circles. I'll update you if they get even better. I paid about $90 for it including shipping, but apparently the one little bottle is a year's supply. Name: Bri Country: usa Comment: My life suxs from dark circles thers absolutly nothin u can do but live with them Name: Amani Country: england Comment: Hi Nala, Lucky you! Could you tell me what it's called and what shop can I get it from. Bdw how much does it cost? Name: nala Country: usa Comment: o i am using k-max or sumthin that starts with a k and boy it works....try it im losing my dark circles yyyaaaayyy Name: sally Country: england Comment: Amani,Thanks for your response.First about your laser treatment,I went to skin clinic here and they said that laser can't remove dc. About Hollywood eye magic,I also saw youtube clips and contacted on email address provided.You can't get it in any shop and it is shipped from canada.once I start using it,I will tell you effects of it. Name: Amani Country: england Comment: Sally, I went on to few sites about Hollywood Eye Magic and so far people have said it's quite good although it i targeted more at wrinkles and puffy eyes, but still alot of people said it made a huge difference to their dark circles. Go on to You Tube and type in Hollywood Eye Magic and see what you think. Bdw Sally do Yuo know what shops sells it in the UK and what's the price like? Name: amani Country: england Comment: Remember a few months ago I said I was gonna try Dark Circle Lser Treatment and let you no how it goes? Well it's crap!!! Waste of money I paid £600 and not to mention the travel fare to Manchester 8 times!! Although my dark cicles look much better straight after a tratment session it doesn't last!! I only have 2 treatment sessions left and so far have only seen a very slight difference. Name: sally Country: england Comment: Has anyone tried hollywood eye magic? I am planning to buy it and wanted to knw some comments on this. Name: Kiran Country: japan Comment: How do I get rid of dark circles fast? Name: mono Country: england Comment: huh?? Name: unknown Country: other Comment: εγω λατρευω τον μοχυ πολυ ομως εγω κι αυτοσ χωρισαμε θελω να γυρισω για αυτον Name: renal Country: usa Comment: i lived in greece all my life and i leaveed it i want to get it Name: reham Country: other Comment: i love one he called mohy and he has broke my heart and i don't live alone he must be with me i love he so much i cried for him everyday i want him but i don't he still love me or not Name: Answer Within Country: usa Comment: I think I'm starting to understand. The only person who knows how to heal your dark circles is you. Everyone has different cures, because everyone is different. I think that if we believe we can find our own cure...we will. What the mind of man can conceive and believe, the mind of man can achieve. Name: saf Country: australia Comment: hey i came across this site and i Too have dark circles underneath my eyes and was looking for some tips i once was talking to this lady who was a beauty consultant for dior she told me that to get rid of the circles ( if your not born with them)is peel a potatoe mash it up and with the juices simply pat them on your eyes and let it dry she said you should see results within 2 months ive never came around doing it but i hpe this remade can help you out Name: Marjorie Country: usa Comment: well I am 13 and I have dark circles, and I get 9 to 10 hours of sleep, and I eat right too, so how do I get rid of them Name: watashi Country: india Comment: hi.can some one tell me how to use rose water for dark circles.do we have to use it directly or mix with water and after how much time do we have to wash it of.plz help.thanks Name: Pooja Country: india Comment: use this info at ur own risk: i can not say what works for me will definietly work for u.this has helped me more than any cream/gels etc i have ever bought and spent lots of money on. i came across on earthclinic website that somebody got rid of their skin cancer using hydrogen peroxide 3% by taking a cotton swab and soaking it in the hydrogen peroxide and applying it to their face. i tried this on my dark circles several times a day bt plzzzzzzzzzz do not put this onto ur eyelashes or let it go inside ur eye. and plzzzzzzzzzz make sure it is 3% food grade hydrogen peroxide NOT 35% or any higher concentration. be patient and u will start to see results after a week an a half. make sure to soack the dark circles in hydroegn peroxide and it will sting for a while bt the results r worth it Name: jadid Country: england Comment: Hi P, i used Nur76 for about two months but it didn't do anything for my circles. I dont know how bad yours are but mine are quite dark and i didn't notice any difference at all. I'm using dermalex now for nearly 8 weeks, its supposed to be really effective according to the website but i haven't noticed any difference yet. Name: gfdg Country: india Comment: fgfd Name: WAKE UP Country: other Comment: CHEMICAL PEELS WILL NOT REMOVE YOUR DARK CIRCLES. WHY?? BECAUSE THE DARKNESS IS COMING FROM WAY UNDERNEATH YOUR SKIN AND JUST SHOWING THROUGH THE TOP LAYERS OF YOUR THIN EYE SKIN. IF YOU HAVE A CHEMICAL PEEL YOUR DARK CIRCLES MAY LOOK WORSE SINCE YOU ARE REMOVING SKIN AND LETTING MORE DARKNESS SHOW THROUGH!! Name: dark circles Country: usa Comment: I am 25 have had darck cisrlces since I was 15. They ruin my life. I hate waking up in the morning after a great 8 hour sleep feeling wide awake until I ook in the mirror. ughh i look like I'm dying with very dark circles under the eyes. People always tell me how tired I look or stare at the circles instead of into my eys. It makes me feel like I'm not a person. Anyways I could go on forever about how horrible these are. I have tried everything...creams DO NOT WORK,. I eat healthy, get great sleep, nobody in my family has them so I don't know why I do. I have consulted with many plastic surgeons but they tell me there is nothing the can do. I met one though that injects fat under the eys which I am considering. I have an appt next week with another surgeon who injects restalyn nder the eye as its a natural filler. DOES ANYONE HAVE EXPERIENCE GETTING PLASTIC SURGERY FOR THEI DARK CIRCLES??IF SO WHAT METHOD DID YOU US AND WHAT ARE THE RESULTS?? Name: amani Country: england Comment: Hi everyone i am 19 years old and i have had dark circles from the age of about 13. Ive finally had enough and as i have tried EVERY dark circle cream and they do NOT work. I have decided to have Dark Circle Laser Treatment. Im having my first treatment tomorrow (a bit worried!!) I'll let you no if it works and whether its worth the money. Name: jasmine Country: usa Comment: HEY IM 25 NEVER HAD DARK CIRCLES UNDER MY EYES WHAT SHOULD I DO I HATE IT IM NOT USE TO HAVING THIS PLEASE HELP ME Name: p Country: england Comment: hi guys. has anyone here tried eyederma? or nur76? Name: gnwmtxlk bljhwzav Country: india Comment: etis vmgzwf sowlpugmy xyhl kinq fqcszu ykbo juxgwo ldpmsvuwy Name: jsnqvul nwqypmhv Country: india Comment: mprdf mnpo krbyao ynmoshwb yiwrnq wlfezq ojatce Name: farah Country: england Comment: everytime i take a photo i cant even c my own eyes its dat bad even ma family say ur eys r gettin worse so plz help me xxxxxxxxxx Name: farah Country: england Comment: hi im 14 nd ive got dc under my eyes as well i really want to get rid of them plz help me Name: Abeer Country: usa Comment: *apply olive oil under eyes at night before going to bed, massage for few mins. Stillman's bleach cream works wonder, proved. keeping potato slices is a quick treatment. mix milk & grinded alomnds,make a mixture apply on face & neck or only under eyes, after half an hour,moist it with wet finger tips & scrub face, continue regularly for few days, u will see the results :) Name: kaarina Country: other Comment: maRY IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF THOSE CICALS SLEEP IN THWE AFTERNOONS PUT CUCAMBER SLICES ON YOUR EYES OK OW AND IM ALSO 14 Name: kaarina Country: other Comment: maRY IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW TO GET RID OF THOSE CICALS SLEEP IN THWE AFTERNOONS PUT CUCAMBER SLICES ON YOUR EYES OK Name: jane Country: england Comment: Claire,Have u visited ur GP to find the exact problem behind dc.I have also dc and I am also planning to have a chemical peel after a month,keep u updated.I have used many creams but still no success. Name: claire Country: england Comment: I have had dark circles since i was a tot im now 32 yrs and sick of people saying i have been smacked in the face and have bruises under my eyes and people saying i look knackered all the time.When i wear my glasses its not a problem because they are masked however when i wear my contact lenses thats when all the hurtfull comments come.I am looking into chemical peel but dont know if that will do any good except make them worse.ALso does any body know anything about that creamyou can only purchase in america write ups say it works.Can anyone help.Please desparate. Name: claire Country: england Comment: I have had dark circles since i was a tot im now 32 yrs and sick of people saying i have been smacked in the face and have bruises under my eyes and people saying i look knackered all the time.When i wear my glasses its not a problem because they are masked however when i wear my contact lenses thats when all the hurtfull comments come.I am looking into chemical peel but dont know if that will do any good except make them worse.ALso does any body know anything about that you can only purchase in america write ups say it works.Can anyone help.Please desparate. Name: ruhee Country: india Comment: what are Lecithin Crystals? Name: Mary Country: usa Comment: I am 14 and had dark circles since as long as I can remember. They are not from being tired an I don't know what to do about them. I realy want them to go away. Name: kunwar s Country: india Comment: i have dc on my nose n cheaks it looks very bad on seeing what is the home made treatment or else to get rid of them.please suggest me. Name: bizarrrrrrre Country: other Comment: lecturer Name: Optimistic Country: other Comment: i was busy that's why i was'nt here n by the way am from Pakistan.i will tell u about my progress soon Name: Optimistic Country: other Comment: Hi....am back Name: ishika Country: india Comment: I m havin dark circles from last 2 months ....bt nw m doin brahmari pranayam n Sarvangasana...I can hope dat dese two things can only get rid of dark circles...no dark circles cream can work out... Name: ishika Country: india Comment: I m havin dark circles from last 2 months ....bt nw m doin brahmari pranayam n Sarvangasana...I can hope dat dese two things can only get rid of dark circles...no dark circles cream can work out... Name: jay Country: usa Comment: Hey i just wanted to write something on here i have not been on this in a while i remember the las time i wqas on here i was talking about dark circles and what you can do well i did have surgury about a year and a half ago and it was good for a while it really helped but time has past and they are back now it oculd be because i did not follow recovery well or it could be that i went tanning by the way do not tan! You can ask any dermatalogist its will make the circles darker. any way i am stuck wiht the same problem again but i will say that surgury help but its alot of money and wont get rid of everthing all topgether. anyway im stuck wiht thbuis annoying problem again so if anyvosy knows anything that can help share what you have used and how well its work i think thats the only way all of us can hep this problem. Name: DX Country: england Comment: Both corners of eyes. Name: optimistic Country: other Comment: I have gone through all d comments on this db, I found a lot of different ways to treat dc’s. The most important thing z that those who were giving a lot of new information have left d db, the most important of them was “Hope”. Sooner or later he will join this board again, I really appreciate his contributions at this board……I have finally concluded that v have 2 root out d cause of dc’s first. If v think that dc’s r cz of hereditary reason, still v can cure them….i will definitely mail my problems 2 Hope aswell. I do have dc’s since from childhood bt they have become dark brown when I was in college almost 6 yrs have passed. I am not feeling any inferiority complex but still I want 2 cure them…..my eyes r dark brown sunken n my stomach z upset(d same moment when my dc’s got worsen),so they r interlinked. Apart from that, I recently noticed d white thread like worms in my stools. After going through this article am going to finalise how am going 2 treat myself n by the way my doctor after different prescriptions has concluded that am suffering from Zn deficiency n now my stools r normal. Am also taking medicine against d parasites. So I hope am going to cure my problem n lets hope that HOPE z going 2 b on d db again…..bye Name: Kirsty Country: southafrica Comment: I hav started to get very small red dots on myunder eye. which corner the outer corner of ur eye? started to get red? Name: DX Country: england Comment: The corner of my eyes have become red. Name: Kirsty Country: southafrica Comment: Hey DX did u get 2-3 small red dots wen u used repcillin in the eye area. Name: Riffi Country: malaysia Comment: to vanish these dc's would really be a miracle 4 m.am searching 2 find out d solution.i think my dc's r coz of genetic susceptibility.okkkkk.if all of us hav dc's then doesn't matter.v shouldn't b so much conscious.right Name: anita Country: usa Comment: I bought Chrysin and have been using it for about a week. I think my dark circles are caused by 2 things veins showing thru and leaking blood and pigmetation. I would say that my dark circles are less red/purple but they is still brown pigment. So for veins it seems to slightly help but for pigmentation not so much. Name: Adiety Country: australia Comment: Hey u can apply mint paste on the dark circle keep for half hour & wash off,there will be mild burning sensation, but it helps a lot. Also while going to bed at night apply mixture of honey & almong oil taken in equal quantities. Try it out and do tell me ur views Name: rajiv Country: australia Comment: Yes kirsty keep using it as my dc's getting lightened were only noticed i think 3 and a half weeks later Name: DX Country: england Comment: Kristy,Please dont get demotivated and keep on using this,you will see visible results in one month or so.No cream can remove DC overnight. Name: Kirsty Country: southafrica Comment: DX how dark are your dark circles bcos repcillin is not working on mine Name: christy Country: usa Comment: i know this is weird but hemroid cream seems to work i was at wal mart the lady told me to try it. then my neighbor told me the same thing so am g onna try it Name: Gentleman Country: canada Comment: Along with many of you, I too feel that my excessive masturbation has a direct impact on under eye circles. As of today, I will go on a 60 day non masturbation program. Upon completion I will report back and confirm whether or not the dark eye circles were improved. Name: Kirsty Country: southafrica Comment: Im trying repcillin. its been about 2 weeks but i dont see any results yet Name: Jyoti Country: england Comment: btw is anybody else trying repcillin? went onto their site... pretty interesting. Name: Jyoti Country: england Comment: sori i forgot to tell u though that the chrysin only reduced my dc's it DID NOT get rid of them though the girl on the other forum who used it sed it got rid of hers. bt mine were only reduced. i am also thinking of trying repcillin bt it seems slightly expensive for me and DX how effective is this thing called repcillin? Name: Jyoti Country: england Comment: I used to use any cream i had at home no specific cream sometimes ponds cream and sometimes avon cream i had. bt it doesnt matter which cream u use. the chrysin is in powder form. it takes 3 weeks to see initial results and then after a couple of months ur dc's will eventually fade away. another girl on the other forum for her it took 3 weeks for her dc's to go away bt im assuming her dc's were a lot lighter than mine. how can u tell if ur dc's r due to pigmentation? Name: DX Country: england Comment: Jyoti,in which form did you use chrysin,is it in powder form or cream? Which skin cream did you use it and how much time it took to clear ur DC,were they due to pigmentation. Name: At all costs Country: usa Comment: I have severe dark circles, as many of you might have or you wouldn't be in this board. Again, yes I've tried a lot of things, but I may be naive. I've had dark circles for a long time, and I want to finally get rid of them.Can someone please help. I don't know much about what else I can do. Name: Jyoti Country: england Comment: anita my eyes were black. and rajiv u hav come up with a brilliant idea. yes try mixing the chrysin with this cream that DX is having good effects with. DX r u going to try this? Name: Visiting Singapore Country: usa Comment: Btw, sleeping ten hours a day doesn't help in improving dark eyes! *sigh* I've given up hope on trying to remedy my permanent dark eyes...I'd advice investinbg in a really good concealer and concealer brush...oh and always wear foundation after the concealer and touch up with loose powder to give it a natural look. Name: Visiting Singapore Country: usa Comment: Hi Panda Girl, I suffer from terrible dark eye circles and so doe smy mum. For mothers day, I bought her the MTM Japan dark eye removal gel...and it removed her panda eyes by 60%...mine only imroved by 10 percent sadly...so I guess it really works on some, and doesn't on others! Name: DX Country: england Comment: I have been using this product for last 1 and half month and it has certainly reduced the blackness around my eyes but not completely yet but I am willing to continue with this product as Rajiv's skin took 3 and half month to heal. Name: anita Country: usa Comment: DX, please answer, most of us need help and if it worked for you it might work for others. who cares about what the other people said you don't know them. Just help us who need help by giving us some insight on the product you are using. Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: hey bt DX havent the dark circles gone by now? cs i think urs r lighter than mine and if not wt colour have they bcome. there is no need to rpely to useless people justifying yurself. Name: DX Country: england Comment: Ya,I am on board but now only as a viewer coz I dont want to waste my time giving suggestion to the guys who don't use their heads. Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: DX r u still on this board? Name: anita Country: usa Comment: Jyoti, thanks. Can you tell me what color your dark circles were and how long you have had them? Everyone has them for different reasons so different things work for different people. Just want to see if ours are similar. Thanks. Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: Hey Jyoti thats great info! DX why dont u try this add the chrysin to the repcillin balm. i checked out the site jyoti and u r right it is very cheap. DX how much of ur dc's have eliminated? to speed up the process try adding the chrysin wt do u say? Name: Jyoti Country: england Comment: Hylexin doesnt work cs it has soooo little of chrysin in it cs it is mixed with sooo many other things bt if u get this pure chrysin it will be more concentrated and just add any cream of ur choice to it Name: birappa Country: india Comment: ihave dark circles under my eyes what should iuse Name: Anita Country: usa Comment: hi Jyoti, You said Hylexin doesn't work but it contains Chrysin, the ingredient you say does work. Why is that? It is a stronger form of the ingredient? Name: Jyoti Country: england Comment: do not waste money on products like hylexin and vit K creams. they do not work and they cost a lot of $$$. the only thing i have had success with is the following and its cheap! i read from another forum about somebody whose dark circles went when they bought chrysin the active compound in hylexin from skinactives website. it cost only 10$ and im realy happy with the results. this msg board is not allowing me to post the links of the websites. bt type in the following in google and click the first link: any good products for dark circles and acne. in this forum another people used this same idea u js need to mix the chrysin with any cream u hav at home and apply it to ur eyes. u cn go to the skinactives websiteclick on their product list. its called chrysin. Name: Sam Country: other Comment: i dont realy care if this is marketing or not as long as it works im happy Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: if you havent tried it dont make a comment. anyway DX how is it going seen any more positive changes? Name: Prakash Country: india Comment: i agree these people are advertising. please leave the board Name: Trisha Country: england Comment: plz people hav a mind of ur own. these people r tryin to promote their products as u cn see that DX has not posted since my last comment havent i made my point??? Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: yes i did rub it in and i applied it around about 5 times day some days in the beginning and then sometims twice a day but lots in the evening before going to bed. why do u ask? r u applying it wrongly? Name: Joanne Country: england Comment: Rajiv when you say you applied the repcillin did you rub it in as well so it absorbs? How often did you apply it? Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: wow so many posts. no i am not promoting any product it is upto u if u want to buy it or not. Thats why i wanted to know if somebody else was getting the same results as me. i remember that somebody made a comment after about 3 weeks about the DC's so thats how i know they were getting lighter. as mine were dark they took about 3 and a half months i think to go cnt remember exactly to be honest. bt i think urs are getting lighter at a faster pace than mine maybe urs are lighter than mine and also i did apply the repcillin more often than you. Name: Trisha Country: england Comment: if you look at DX statement now that meladerm was not as effective yet in his previous claims he said that they reduced his dc's by 40% and js before he has said that repcillin also reduced them by 40% but is nt as effective Name: DX Country: england Comment: Well,I am not promoting or alluring anyone to purchase any product.My DC are also very dark black but as I told that they have lightened to some extent after using repcillin.Meladerm was not as effective as this cream.I also want to ask Rajiv that after how long his DC completely vanished. Name: Sam Country: other Comment: DX your DC's they are very very dark or light dark originally. is there a pic you can refer to on google images or something to give us an idea Name: Trisha Country: england Comment: my exact point made. if you look at DX's posts before he said that he's DC's were reduced by 40% by meladerm and now this new cream hes trying to promote. Name: AJ Country: india Comment: Hi DX on some of your earlier posts you said meladerm was working did it stop working? Is repcillin better than meladerm? Thanks Name: DX Country: england Comment: Trish,I think you have not seen my comments I have been posting since last six-seven months and hence I am not a product seller. My DC are getting lighter by 40% now after using this cream for 22 days.Hoping to fade away by next month or so. Name: Trisha Country: england Comment: Its quite blatant that rajiv and DX are trying to promote their product.how can DCs become red? and if they had become red in the early days they shouldve gone by now. plz people use some common sense Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: any further imprivements DX? Name: sandeep gupta Country: canada Comment: there is a particular breed in india which has black cricles around eyes. its from parents. there is no treatment for this no matter what anyone says.now this defficency is so common in indian people that even kids habe black circles.not only that most of people with black circles blink their eves very fast and feels irritated, eves get red,watery,tired. best treatment . grate potaoes and cucumber apply that paste around eyes before go to bed for at least 10 minutes. Name: DX Country: england Comment: Hi Sam and Rajiv,There is no need to feel sorry on anything as we are facing the same problems.I have been using this cream two times a day.As it has been only 13-14 days but I can see the improvement of my under eye skin.Looking forward to some good results I can share... Name: Sam Country: other Comment: sorry DX i just meant to ask if they are getting lighter or not than before you used the cream Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: No I have not left. Anita i dont know if my dark circles were due to pigmentation infact i dont know wt the cause was. i've had them for many yrs now. sori DX for bombarding u with questions js got too excited that u were experiencing the same results as me. btw u will notice the dc's getting lighter i dont know at wt rate as i applied repcillin more often than u so maybe mine went earlier cos of that. Name: DX Country: england Comment: Sam,as I told before,they have become reddish.I have been using repcillin for last twelve days. Name: Sam Country: other Comment: have DX and Rajiv left? Name: Sam Country: other Comment: DX have your dark circles gone Name: Anita Country: usa Comment: Rajiv, When did you first develop them and is it mainly due to pigmentation? Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: i did not have them all my lifetime Name: anita Country: usa Comment: Rajiv, Did you have your DC all your life or did they just develop sometime recently? Are your purely due to pigmentation? Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: DX how dark black r ur circles? the colour will first turn red den dey will get more lighter. cnt u see them getting lighter? i feel so happy for u. btw after how many days did u see them bcoming red? Name: rajiv Country: australia Comment: yes it means its working. r they getting lighter? Name: DX Country: england Comment: Hi Rajiv, Did your DC turn somewhat reddish after applying repcillin in earlier days. Name: nala Country: usa Comment: use 2 cucumber slices put them on your eyes and keep it there for about 7 minuts. try this for 7 weeks and u wont have any dark circles anymore. i tryed this and i have no dark circles anymore so try this!!! Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: i think it might be a little to early for dx to notice any changes Name: sam Country: other Comment: have you noticed anything so far DX like a colour change Name: GRIER Country: usa Comment: HOW DO I GET RID OF DARK CIRCLES Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: DX i dnt know how dark ur dark circles r bt try putting lots on in the evening wen u go to sleep. if u can try putting it on more than twice a day as this is what i did. i reali hope it helps u too and thnx for letting us all know the progress Name: DX Country: england Comment: Rajiv,Thanks very much for your info.I am applying it 2 times a day,morning and night.Will keep you updated on progess.Thanks again. Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: DX make sure wen u apply it u apply it many times a day and especialy at night time put a lot on and sleep. my dark circles were also black. let me know the progress as im curious to know if im the only one experiencing this. btw did u receive it this monday? or will u recieve it this coming monday? Name: kaboju Country: mauritius Comment: Thank you DX Name: DX Country: england Comment: Mine are black. Name: Sam Country: other Comment: thnx DX. and also do you have blue or brown dark circles? Name: DX Country: england Comment: Sam,I am in Uk.You can type repcillin on google and you will be taken to the site.There are links for ordering from anywhere in world. Name: sam Country: other Comment: DX from where did u order repicilin? and how long does it take to come. i am living in hungary Name: DX Country: england Comment: Rajiv, I have ordered it this week so I will get it by next monday.Will keep you updated on progress. Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: DX did u try repcillin? i am tryin to test this on my mum bt she is lazy and does not stick to applying it Name: Rajiv Country: australia Comment: after 3 and a half weeks they started to get lighter Name: DX Country: england Comment: Hi Rajiv, After how many days have you seen the improvement in ur skin. Name: rajiv Country: australia Comment: i meant crocodile oil not coconu t sori Name: rajiv Country: australia Comment: this thing is amazing. i had eczema on my eyes and dark circles. i used this balm containing crocodile oil and it has not only got rid of the eczema but also my dark circles. this is working wonders for poeple with all types of skin problems. check it out on youtube by searching eczema and coconut oil. its only sold in south africa and i bought it frm a website and the name is repcillin. i cnt tell u enuf how much this hs helped me and no i am not tryin to sell this product try it for urself. i am not testing this product on my mum as she also has dark circles. Name: newbie Country: england Comment: You can change your diet all you want but if you dont fix the problem you will not have success.Why do you think all your friends can eat and drink what ever they want.There insides are so strong that nothing penetrates it.people with health problems have leaky gut,but the problem is nobody knows the proper way to fix it.here is how you fix it take 75 mg of zinc carnosine 10 mg of biotin and 2000 to 10000 of msm and within one month your leaky gut will be cured and your dark circles will be gone without changing your eating habits....Good luck Name: Tanya Country: australia Comment: I'm caucasian and have pale skin. My dark circles are medium coloured, not overly dark. I've found that if I stop drinking caffeine (Coffee, Tea, Green Tea, Cocoa) for 2 weeks and keep up with my usual diet of 5 serves of vegetables and 2 serves of fruit a day (1 serve = 1/2 a cup), my dark circles clear up. My face also looks fresher and younger, probably because caffeine prevents your body from absorbing nutrients and takes Vitamin B out of your body. I've read that if you have dark circles, it shows you are deficient in Vitamin B. With the fruit and vegetables, I vary these, and make sure I'm not just eating the same types each day (This is standard advice you'll see anywhere in relation to fruit and vege intake). Name: shama Country: other Comment: i am so relaxed to see so many ppl having same problem,anyways HOPE FOR GUD Name: Huanita Country: hongkong Comment: Name: Jadid Country: england Comment: Hi guys, has anyone come across a product called Nur76? Its a cream thats meant to work really well on dark circles. Its not too expensive either. Just search for Nur76 see what you think. Name: phoeby Country: india Comment: i have dark circles under my eyes has it is i have a dark compexion i really want 2 get rid of it i used many creams nt still it dint work pls help Name: anita Country: usa Comment: C, what kind of surgery did you get? Name: please help guys Country: india Comment: Hello guys, i have dark circles under eyes. I have used many creams but all worthless. What should i do now. I want to get rid from these dark circles. This is too bad. Please someone help me Name: Orny Country: india Comment: Guys,i'am not able to find vitamin k cream or lotion.cause iam living in india.can anyone please tell me what is the indian name of vitamin k?(Tell Me The Specific Company Name)or Product Name Name: Jaz Country: england Comment: The cure given by dave has worked on me. although it hasnt got rid of the dark circles completely it has got rid of about 70%of them. atleast now i can put on concelaer to cover them. i took 6 tablespoons of lecithin with cod liver oil. good luck and oh yes it took me a little longer to see results it took me 6 weeks b4 i cud notice anything. Name: c Country: usa Comment: I havent been on here in a while but i do have to say one thing the only treatment that is successful for dark circles is surgery i got that for myself and they were 60 percent better for other people it might even be better then 60 percent or it could be lower but thats the only way to see a change what ive noticed when i use to have bad dark circles what makes it even worse is the puffiness cause it shows more so if your looking for that puffiness to go away spend some money nothing is for sure but Ive learned one thing people thing dark circles or bags make you look ugly thats not it at they make you look tired but my adviceif you have bad dark cirlces is surgery and find a good a good doctor cause the cream wont help at all Name: Fiona Country: other Comment: I despretely need help as my bags under my eyes are not just black but swollen HELP!! Someone advise tea bags nut NOPE!! hopeless. Name: Sam Country: usa Comment: dermalex MD try it...i will soon Name: David Country: netherlands Comment: This is Agape blog site - Interesting blog. Name: jas Country: england Comment: best thing for me so far is emu oil and almond oil. they are 50% better but still dark on the rims, sort of purple Name: kiol Country: india Comment: my age is 18 plz tell me how to remove dark circles its to dark. which is the effective & fast way to remove it Name: B.Prabhakar Country: india Comment: What is the hindi name of slippery elm, can anyone tell me & from where i can buy it in india Name: kfgjgkgi Country: germany Comment: you guys r all stupid Name: laila Country: usa Comment: vasanti cosmetics makes a great concealer "wonder of the world" especially for indian women. works for me. i have never had any success with creams (yet) and won't try surgery. Name: y Country: usa Comment: this is a bunch of B.S we need answers NOW. not what u think MIGHT work. **and no make-up answers, cuz not all of us are allowed to use make-up** Name: kk Country: canada Comment: realy how can we all get rid of them Name: anonymous Country: other Comment: yh the reason why u havent had problems covering dark circles is cos u havent had many patients with real dark dark circles. cn people stop giving concealer/makeup advice cnt u see we've had enuf of these on the board already Name: Make Up Artist Country: england Comment: I am a professional make up artist and have never had any problem covering dark circles. Most concealers for dark circles are not very good because they tend to be pink or beige based. Dark circles require yellow based concealers which are quite hard to come by but it's getting better. Make up suppliers like Bobbi Brown and MAC do excellent yellow based concealers Try the websites Name: ryanne Country: england Comment: none of that stupid **** is working for me hello i need answers Name: ryanne Country: england Comment: how do i get rid of circles in 1 week cuz i need to know before that week comes you got it Name: Pooja Country: india Comment: 1 teaspoon slippery elm powder not capsules twice a day in water and saffron tea in the evening 1 teaspoon or u cn substitute with chamomile tea bt preferrably american yellow saffron. i had heard of this cure before too bt hadnt tried it b4 it ws mentioned here. Name: Pooja Country: india Comment: 1 teaspoon slippery elm powder not capsules twice a day in water and saffron tea in the evening 1 teaspoon or u cn substitute with chamomile tea bt preferrably american yellow saffron. i had heard of this cure before too bt hadnt tried it b4 it ws mentioned here. Name: lily Country: india Comment: After delevery I have dark circles and wrincles under my eyes and blamishes on my nose and cheeks I want to get rid of it penmanetly Name: DX Country: england Comment: Hi Pooja, How much dosage has been taken by you everyday Name: pooja Country: india Comment: the remedy given by somebody for slippery elm and saffron tea worked wonders just wanted to say thnx a lot after trying all the other remedies mentioned here atleast this one worked Name: DX Country: england Comment: I have black dark circle around my eyes and meladerm will gradually work. Name: nala Country: usa Comment: cut 2 fresh slices of cucumber! put them on your eyes every day for 7 weeks and they will be gone!!! Name: tanmay Country: india Comment: i want sexey women's up to 45 to 50 year old Name: Country: australia Comment: Name: Drake Country: japan Comment: Name: Rex Country: kenya Comment: Name: Vicky Country: singapore Comment: Name: Amelia Country: malaysia Comment: Name: Isaac Country: england Comment: Name: Regginald Country: mexico Comment: Name: Jarre Country: indonesia Comment: Name: Gomez Country: england Comment: Name: Antonio Country: mexico Comment: Name: Lion Country: india Comment: Name: Jamelia Country: middleeast Comment: Name: Frank Country: thailand Comment: Name: Abraham Country: germany Comment: Name: Alexa Country: germany Comment: Name: Anita Country: usa Comment: DX, meladerm is not doing much for me? Can I ask what color your dark circles were? Were they darkish purple, do you have olive toned skin? Name: DX Country: england Comment: Hi,I-Balm has not worked but meladerm surely did. Name: Nick Country: usa Comment: the slippery elm and saffron tea treatment for psoriasis works for dark circles too. i used it to get rid of my psoriasis and my dark circles went too. try it Name: jas Country: england Comment: hey dx did you ever use i balm? did it work? so meladerm is working for you? Name: Zelda Herakleides Country: mauritius Comment: Kogda nastanut holoda i belaja doroga ljazhe. Zelda Herakleides. Name: sonia Country: india Comment: i have dark circles under my eyes can u suggest me a daily home tretment to get of rid dark circles Name: reehana Country: india Comment: i have dark circles under my eyes.can u suggest me a daily home treatment to get rid of dark cicles Name: Hippolytos Sparrow Country: hongkong Comment: Ne v dengah ne v muzejnoj pyl. Hippolytos Sparrow. Name: DX Country: england Comment: Hi Anita,Meladerm is working nicely for me.It has reduced my DC 30-40% in last 20 days.I thnk u shud give it a try. Name: qirljnths cjsz Country: india Comment: djzmo bcroeihw dqwxve bwrzmf itfr tdamlpi ycopjza mvyqhtnfz okstcu Name: xwpr hdutgrkec Country: india Comment: njbstrlu wgnp gsfyxt jzfchvlwi unsvpdc zprk edcmzwlk Name: Anita Country: usa Comment: What is with all these last posts? Anyhow DX, how is meladerm working? Name: Regginald Country: kenya Comment: Name: Aria Country: usa Comment: Name: Brooks Country: thailand Comment: Name: Pablo Country: india Comment: Name: Hopper Country: japan Comment: Name: Jane Country: zambia Comment: Name: Jarre Country: netherlands Comment: Name: Robin Country: india Comment: Name: Antonio Country: france Comment: Name: John Country: mauritius Comment: Name: Ruphus Country: thailand Comment: Name: Hulita Country: southafrica Comment: Name: Hirouko Yamomoto Country: middleeast Comment: Name: Bruno Country: germany Comment: Name: Jeremy Country: southafrica Comment: Name: nala Country: usa Comment: hi!!! i am 12 years old and had dark circles under my eyes science i was 2!!! i used fresh cucumbers by putting 1 slice on each eye and my dark circles are almost gone!!! it might take about 7 weeks though!!! Name: hdfkpeukdv Country: germany Comment: evooshaq Name: Whelime Country: usa Comment: goth people like DC! Name: David Country: netherlands Comment: This is gonsalez music site - best music site in da world. Name: Oded Clarisa Country: singapore Comment: Chto s holodami ne v lada. Oded Clarisa. Name: DX Country: england Comment: Hi Anita,Since I received it only this wednesday,I cannot tell you so early but surely I will keep you updated. Name: Anita Country: usa Comment: DX, how is Meladerm working for you thus far? Name: Maryvonne Heilyn Country: singapore Comment: Vse promolchat nikto ne skazhe. Maryvonne Heilyn. Name: GINA Country: england Comment: Just so you're not confused, i meant that I went to a bad clinic for laser treatment rather than going to the US Name: GINA Country: england Comment: In a word, no. But don't be disheartened, the clinic that I went to was the biggest s***hole on the planet and i'm sure that if i paid more money for laser treatment I would have seen better results.  Name: Anita Country: usa Comment: Troy, How long did you use Rootsherbal? I have been using it for 3 weeks, haven't really seen a change, but I don't expect to until 2 months. How long did you use it and what is the cause of your dark circles? Thanks. Name: troy Country: usa Comment: Actually that rootsherbal product mentioned by Anita and Carry is very good. I have used it and have seen some exceptional results. Takes a bit of work because you have to prepare the paste and apply and all but in the end it is worth it. Name: DX Country: england Comment: Hi Camilla, Well,I have ordered meladerm before some days and I will get it this week.I think it is a good cream as it contains kojic acid,vitamin a and vitamin e. I am using a cream which contains kojic acid predominently and my dark circle are getting lighter by it.If u have DC bcoz of pigmentation,It worths giving a try to Meladerm. Name: Camilla B. Country: usa Comment: hi gus i have he similar problem you guys do i have these dark circle since like the 4th grade it started on one eye then it sorta of drifted over to the other one it now looks like i've been punched in the eye its hereditary they say does anyone have a simlar problem to mine. Has anyone tried MELADERM I want to know if it works for hereditary hyperpigmentation too. Name: Jadid Country: england Comment: Hi guys, I just came across two products for getting rid of dark circles. One is an eye gel and the other are eye detox capsules, they are to be used together for best results. They are a bit expensive, about £45 for both, but the site has information on clinical trials etc and it mentions that dark circles are linked to the lymphatic and vascular system which i have read about before. If anyone wants to check it out just search for Talika. Let me know what you think. Name: jas Country: england Comment: gina have you had any success with the laser treatment. i have dark circles and i use emu oil/almond oil that lightened the severity a little and now just maintains the colour. Name: Guy in London Country: england Comment: I also tried Cellular Lipo-Sculpting Eye Gel from La Prairie before which helps with the swelling but doesn't last once you stopped using it Name: Guy in London Country: england Comment: Chanel Eye-tonic helped for me to make them fade about 50 % in a couple of weeks. It's a big reputable company and I heard they put lots of research into this. Costs around 32 pounds. Avons Lighten Up is cheaper but not so much effective. Name: Dark Circles Country: usa Comment: Charles Silverman N.D suggest! Home remedies for dark circles under eyes Vitamin A in excess: Excess vitamin A or an overdose of Retin-A is very likely to cause liver problems, which can cause dark circles under eyes. Learn how to control your vitamin A levels and how to heal the liver naturally and you will be on your way to a healthier body and radiant face skin without dark circles. Excess sugar: Sugar is the enemy for people suffering severe dark circles. Research about the action of insulin shows that sugar can lead not only to weight problems, but also skin problems, through inflammatory responses as well as their effect on protein which can age the skin and the body prematurely through a process called glycation. Inflammation leads to eye puffiness and dark circles. Find out which foods are highest in sugar, which are most damaging and how to stay away from them. Salty foods: Cut down your daily intake of salt. Salt produces fluid retention this increases the pressure in the small capillaries in your eye area aggravating your dark circles. It is very important to know what an acceptable level of sodium is and how much you should cut from your diet in order to see improvements in your dark circles. In the How to Remove Dark Circles Naturally Report I show you how to control these 3 bad habits plus a let you know about the other 5 ways of life that are giving you dark circles and destroying your self-esteem. I’m sure you want answers to the following questions: What is the cause of dark circles around the eyes ? How does one remove dark circles under eyes ? Is there a cure for dark circles under the eyes ? Are there any home remedies for dark under eye circles ? One thing is clear, you are sick and tired of standing in front of the mirror looking like you went head to head for 12 rounds with a professional boxer. Don’t waste any more money. Let’s be honest, most products out there are expensive and they don’t work. They ineffectively disguise the problem, they don’t treat dark circles. And the ones that claim to remove dark circles have many side effects. Hydroquinone cream for dark circles is one example. The side effects are worse than the dark circles itself. hydroquinone cream causes adverse reactions like dryness and fissuring of paranasal and infraorbital areas, erythema, stinging and hypersensitivity (localized contact dermatitis). Do you want any of these side effects on your face? I don’t think so. A sad reality Dark circles tell everybody around you that there is something wrong with you, that you are not well, that you are not as attractive as you used to be, or that you look much older than you really are. And the sad reality is that it’s true, dark circles make you look exhausted, ill, old and depressed. Let’s face it, we really hate to walk around looking half dead and half sick. That is why we spend so much time covering them up or at least trying. How many times you wished people would stop asking the same questions over and over? Are you felling well? Did something happen? You look sad. Did you get any sleep last night? And let’s not get into those embarrassing comments from friends and family that everybody finds amusing…Everybody but you. Since I started in this field back in 1979 as a Naturopath and Herbalist Doctor; people have come to me with this problem thousands of time, so you are not alone. I have a lot of experience dedicating part of my life to making natural remedies for people like you, who needed help with chemical intolerance, weaken immune systems or simply to be healthier. Now I want you to take advantage of my experience. I invested all my knowledge and skills to figure out the real causes and remedies for dark circles under the eyes. That is why I create this site and place all my findings at your finger tips. Discover the complete truth and cure your dark circles forever. Get all the answers for every question about dark circle under the eyes. Dark Circles are caused by many underlying health conditions which must be treated or else your dark circles will only get worse as time goes by. I found so many causes and solutions that I felt obligated to putted all in this e-book. "The How to Remove Dark Circles Naturally Report" by Charles Silverman N.D. Name: DX Country: england Comment: Hi , I am taking lecithin from last 20 days and have not seen any exciting results.Has anyone tried Meladerm cream?In this article below ASH has tried it and got rid of her DC,can anyone please suggest me? Name: Anita Country: usa Comment: Aryann, please keep me updated, if this works for you, I will have some hope :-). Do you have a personally email that you don't mind sharing so you can let me know about the progress. Thanks. Name: Aryaan Country: usa Comment: Hi Anita, Thanks for your response. I guess it's no harm scheduling an appointment with the NYC doc. I do think mine are due to pigmentation. I'm quite fair skinned so the DC's appear much more obvious. I also have an appoitment with Dr. Battle in DC, he specializes in skin treatment for Ethnic people. He's done some research on Lasers for darker skinned people at Harvard. I'm hoping that this doc answers my prayers. Thanks! Name: Anita Country: usa Comment: Aryaan, I also live in nyc and went to see a dermatologist in the New york area. Try Cameron Rokhsar MD, (his website is comesticlaserskinsurgery) and ask for a consultation on the fraxel laser. I actualy went in and he says if mine are due to pigment there can be something done about it, but after looking at my he says mine are due to viens, I honestly they are due to both. Since i don't have the money right now, and you do, you should try him out and let me know how it goes. If it works I will find the money. Oh and yes I am of indian descent too. Name: GINA Country: england Comment: Yes, Anita, it is a lot of money. As I said, look under your eyes carefully to see if there is pigmintation. In the UK I found the laser for £750 for 5 sessions and £25 per session after, so the whole thing will to under a £1000. What you should concentrate on is finding cheaper laser treatment, it may take you a while but I bet you'll get there! Name: Concerned Country: canada Comment: I just have two comments to say. Firs, both Ms. Chang and Dermatologist are full of sh*t. It's more than obvious that Dermatologist is not a Dermatologist. To go into that profession it requires plenty of schooling, and no form of doctors make grammatical or spelling errors as much as this fake. Secondly, if some one did have a magical cure for DC's they would not charge for it, they would be overjoyed that they found it and would want to share it with anyone whom they could help. Try Vita-K Solution for Dark Circles. Lastly I'm a graduate student and know what I'm talking about, unlike the infamous Ms. Chang and Dermatologist who are obviously full of sh*t. Thanks, I'm out. Name: Aryaan Country: usa Comment: Hi All, This is my first post, so please do take the time to read through my rather long post and share your valuable suggestions. I'm a 28 year old male of Indian decent with a chronic problem of dark eyes. 2 years back I had close to zero dark circles. Now they are large, ugly and get me down each time I look in the mirror. I'm an extremely outgoing person who has started shying away from people and rarely make eye contact in fear that folks will see my dark circles. I've tried several things with little or no avail. 1. Eye creams- Hylexin, Steven Victor Eye Repair Kit ($200-waste), Dermalex MD, Desonide, Eumosene 2. Vitamans A 8000 iu, D 400 iu 3. Microdermabrasion & Chemical Peel (performed by Dr. Kovak in Chicago)- I think the chemical peels made a difference but the Microdermabrasion really messed it up. The first sitting left a wound which my derm assures me that micro can never leave a scar it is a wound which takes time to heal esp. for brown people. This resulted in a solid dark line below my already dark circles (which were beginning to fade), so basically my eyes look like large black blocks. 4. Antioxidants 5. Ayurvedic- Extracts of rose, lotus, green tea, aloe vera 6. I've started wearing blank glasses so they cover the severity of my dark circles I've tried all of the above with little or no success. Although, I never tried one given treatment for an extended period of time (0ver 3 months) Things I have not tried 1. Arnica 2. Laser 3. NAC 4. Make up or Concealing creams I live in the NYC area now. Is there anyone that can help? Financially I have little restrictions and am willing to spend money to get rid of this. 1. Does anyone know a good derm in the NYC area? 2. Has anyone had success with laser, esp. folks of Indian descent? I hear it is not for everyone. 4. Is there anything else I should try? 5. Lastly, how long do you guys think it takes for this to fade? And does it fade at all? Name: Anita Country: usa Comment: Gina, I actually agree with you that most likely internal tablets and external solutions such as creams can't really help much. THe price would be around $4,000, that is alot for me, and especially if it doesn't work, and I havne't gotten a positive response from any doctor that it would lighten them up a bit at least. IF all else fails, I will try laser. Thanks Dave, I am actually going to try Dandelion root now, and if that doesn't work, will go back to lecithin. Name: GINA Country: england Comment: I must apologise, I misread and thought you meant that the whole thing would cost $750... btw CO2 lasers are old fashioned and California is expensive, I bet you'll be able to find somewhere a lot cheaper. Name: GINA Country: england Comment: Well, Anita.. all I can say is, if you never try laser you will never know. Yes it is expensive, but we all waste $750 on every-day things over a few months.. and without realising it, trying other methods is going to add up to the same amount. Look at yourself in the mirror and pull the skin of your eyes and look to see if you can spot any vains.. if so then you have a blood vessel problem and some lasers can seal them.. I know that you are worried, but you must be logical. If you have pigmentation and leaking blood vessels do think that tablets are going to lighten and seal them? Will creams cause a miraculous chemical reaction to solve the problem? The answer to both those questions is NO. Laser is the only logical way because it burns the pigmentation, it's like bleaching your hair. Now, it hasn't worked wonders for me, but I have minimal improvement and still need more treatement.. so we shall see! Name: Dave Country: australia Comment: i think its the combination of lecithin with cod liver oil thats making it work as the lecithin is needed to absorb the fatty acids in the cod liver oil. do not take cod liver oil tablets take the oil and take about 4 tablespoons a day u need to take a high dose. 15 days is too early to notice an improvement if ur dark circles r dark. please be patient this is not an overnite cure Name: Izumi Mahmoud Country: middleeast Comment: Nedolgo tolko zhili byl. Izumi Mahmoud. Name: Anita Country: usa Comment: Also just wanted to mentioned the California doctor uses the C02 laser but the new york doctor uses the Fraxel laser. With the c02, you only need 1 treatment, it is quite intense and takes 2 weeks to recover. Name: Anita Country: usa Comment: Go to the website of bermanmd. This site does not let me type it out. click on laser resurfacing treatment, then click on dark circles before and after. and take a look and the before and after of an indian/middle eastern patient. This is at the California Doctor's clinic I mentioned in my previous post Name: Anita Country: usa Comment: Dave, I'm not taking cod liver tablets, should i be? and if so,how many? Also where would you find the powder form. Gina, I went to a laser doctor in california who said my circles were due to pigmentation and he said using the CO2 laser would work, then I went to a second doctor in New york, and he said my circles were due to blood vessels, and nothing could be done about it. I don't know who to believe, it would cost be $750 a treatment as well. I am trying all other methods before i go that route, I might speak to one more doctor to see if its pigment or blood vessels. Name: DX Country: england Comment: Hi Dave, I am taking 9 lecithin 1200mg capsules for last 15 days and still have got no results.I have also very dark circle,but hoping it will do something,for how many days have you taken them and r u taking them wid cod liver oil? Name: Dave Country: australia Comment: anita take 9 capsules and also instead if u cn find the powder form it is better. also how dark r urs? and are u also takin cod liver oil with that too? Name: Gina Country: england Comment: Anita, I'm having the yellow laser treatment. My circles are due to pigmentation and blood vessels (I'm half indian and half cambodian). I have had four sessions so far (I pade £750 for 5) but I probably need another 3. I find the treatment a little painful, it's like having a hot needle pricking you, but it only lasts for 2 mins Name: Anita Country: usa Comment: Gina, what kind of laser treatment are you undergoing? How many have you had? Dave, I took 6 lecithin capsules a day for a month, no change. I am now using Rootsherbal Dark circles solution which is an external treatment, been using for a week now, no change yet. Name: Gina Country: england Comment: Hi, I am currently having laser treatment at the Fulham broadway clinic, I have one more session to go... and my circles don't really look that much better. I have olive skin by the way so maybe the treatment wouldn't work as well with my type of skin.  Name: Dave Country: australia Comment: i think u guys should try lecithin capsules they worked great for me Name: Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Country: australia Comment: i not from england im from australia.. Name: tresty Country: hongkong Comment: there r black circles arond my eyes. Name: bon bon Country: japan Comment: WE have to help our selves to be better living. Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hi DX, Yep i went to see a dermatologist at Bupa, he basically told me to try a vitamin K cream in the morning and a Retin A at night... which i did with no change whatsoever (infact Retin A seemed to make my eye's worse)... it might work for some people tho... like i said before everyone is different! Name: DX Country: england Comment: Hi Danny Boy, So instead of trying so many product,u shud consult a good dermatologist,what do u say? Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hi DX, yep i-balm is the only product i've had results with so far and ive tried probably 50 or so products... yep cucumber eye gel was the first thing i tried, that did nothing at all (apart from a nice cooling effect) ... and the same thing with aloe-vera! ...it might be worth trying though as everyone seems to respond to different things but i havnt heard anyone have good results with cucumber or aloe-vera yet! Name: DX Country: england Comment: Hi DannyBoy, Have u got any results from I-balm coz I have not experienced any effect,have u used aloe-vera and cucumber gel any time? Name: Ashley Country: england Comment: it says side effects are thin skin but i didnt experience that at all infact i didnt see any side effects. Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Thanks Ashley, i might give it a try then... what are the side effects exactly and what side effects did you personally experience? Name: Ashley Country: england Comment: i have used it and had success. i no its side effects are not good but u get that with all medications and just because it has side effects stated it doesnt mean u will necessarily get the side effects. its like using a medication for acne it will get rid of the acne but there are minor side effects like with all medicines. betnovate is for the skin anyway. Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hi Ashley, Correct me if i'm wrong but isnt it dangerous to use betnovate under the eye... according to the manufacturers it shouldnt even be used on the face let alone under the eye!!! Have you personally used it? Name: Ashley Country: england Comment: the only thing that works here is the betnovate cream and yh i no it has small side effects bt there nothing compared to the fact that my circles are gone Name: anita Country: usa Comment: I have done some research and there is no harm in taking 9 1,200 mg capsules a day. Dave, do you know how long I have to take it? I have been taking 6 a day now and still no change so I am going to try 9, hopefully I see results. Name: Paige Country: england Comment: I have really dark circles, and i want them to go. i have been told that if you want to get rid of them theres many things you can try:- 1.) drink lots of water 2.) sleep for more houres 3.) try applying cucumbers on top of both eyes 4.) place 2 spoons into the fridge over night, then in the morning hold both spoons over your eyes for about 15 minutes 5.) potatoes are ment to be good aswell. just cut in half and hold over eyes. 6) i have also been on other websites and they have sugested using tomato sauce, flour and somelemon juice mixed together. wether it works though, i dont know? Name: DX Country: england Comment: Hi Dave, Have u found any side effects after taking 9 capsules each day and for how many days have u taken ? Name: Dave Country: australia Comment: i took 9 lecithin capsules as mentioned in the post. apparently we need to take high doses cos otherwise it doesnt work. The RDA's are usually written very low Name: system Country: other Comment: could anyone tell me the urdu or hindi name for the following herbs?: chasteberry(vitex) and saw palmetto Name: anita Country: usa Comment: Dave, how long does it take for lecithin to work? I have been taking 3 a day for 3 days, is that enough? They haven't gotten darker yet. As for surgury, the c02 laser and the fraxel laser remove dark pigment, however if your dark circles are due to veins, it won't work. I think I will get if done if lecithin doesn't work for me so I'll let you know. Name: merrymontessorians Country: england Comment: has anyone had the surgery? does it work? Name: Dave Country: australia Comment: lecithin works but only gets rid of about 80% dark circles. and also initially your dark circles get darker abit and then get lighter so expect this Name: anita Country: usa Comment: Can anyone tell me if lecithin worked for them. I was told not to take more than 3 a days since it could lead to side effects Name: mary kate Country: usa Comment: im 14 and ive had dark circles under my eyes since i was around 4 or so, and so many people comment me on them, i would really like to figure out how i can make them look less dark, even my makeup doesnt cover them. Name: DX Country: england Comment: Hi Trisha, Did lecithin work 4 u? Name: trisha Country: india Comment: try 9 1,200mg lecithin capsules a day with meal. Name: ROSHAN Country: dubai Comment: HAHA Name: YaYa Country: other Comment: ??? Name: cale Country: malaysia Comment: any updates from Al, Jo, Tina? Name: ice Country: singapore Comment: hi gr8dalmuti, i think is one of the ingredient in i-balm. i-balm contain essential oils. curenntly i am using it. because i am sufferin from dry eyes, i quite like the oil content of i-balm. actually i am using day and night. it has not yet show result since i jus started it 3 days ago. but hopefully all turn out well ya. cheers. Name: gr8dalmuti Country: usa Comment: Try Google search for Helichrysum "eye circles" and you should find some useful information. Basically you will find that Helichrysum Italicum essential oil, diluted properly, can be effective for healing the dark circles. The trick is to figure out the proper dilution, which I'm not sure of yet. I believe that sweet almond oil is a good inexpensive carrier oil to use for the dilution. You need to be very careful when applying your solution not to get it in your eyes. Start with a week Helichrysum Italicuum solution, because your skin around your eyes is very sensitive. Name: ice Country: singapore Comment: hi lona, i have order mine straight from their company's website through i can also place my order from ebay. i pay through paypal. i received the product on the 7th day after i order. Name: lona Country: other Comment: Hi ice how did you order the i product is it via ebay?please update me Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hi Ice... I just use it at night as i find it a bit oily to use in the day! Name: ice Country: singapore Comment: hi Dannyboy, did you use the i-balm day n night or jus during night? i have received the product. well, it is a speedy delivery. will keep you guys update with my progree on the product. Name: stephanie Country: usa Comment: im 12 and i have dark circles under my eyes. i really want to know how to get rid of them. Name: stephanie Country: usa Comment: im 12 and i have dark circles under my eyes. i really wnat to know how to get rid of them. Name: Kashif Anjum Country: other Comment: i have found dark circles around my eyes since last 3 yrs Name: ice Country: singapore Comment: hi danny boy, i wld like to know how long did it take the i-balm to reach you? cos i just place my order. Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hi Ice, ive been taking hyaluronic acid and Neem for the last 2 months (both internal supplements)... and they havnt done anything for me!! Name: ice Country: singapore Comment: Dannyboy, beside the i-balm that you are using, did you take any other heatlh supplement? Name: ice Country: singapore Comment: i was about to purchase nature call i-balm. cld somebody pls let mi if it really works before i waste my $ away. thanks Name: yusra Country: india Comment: i thnk v all are crazy...pals v r just not goint to get rid of them ...v r the most unfortunate ones ......just b brave to admit this ....v r just simply spendin our money fr our own satiisfaction....n thst it...theyll always b thr trust me.... Name: IIIIII Country: india Comment: hey simpleton they also get bad just after exercise just due to the fact your heart beating faster and the blood pumping around but its not the cause i had these circles way before i even knew how to masturbate ;) Name: Cyyyy Country: other Comment: Plz dont chat rubbish. Name: Simpleton Country: india Comment: I dont exactly know the connection between the two, but I honestly feel that DCs get real bad after Masturbation. I have not only experienced it myself, I have seen this in others as well; a person with DCs when married had them worsened. After masturbation circle under my right eye gets worse noticably. Does anybody else also thinks so ? Name: lona Country: other Comment: Hi Dannyboy ,i haven't tried i-product yet,my dark circles are getting worse,don't know what to do Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hi Lona, I ordered 1 bottle of i-balm for a start; which lasts about 2 and a half months!!... i ordered another 3 from the website the other day though so that will be enough to last me for ages! Have you tried it yet, if so, what do you think to it? oh and just to update; hyaluronic acid and Neem capsules still arnt doing much for me!! Name: lona Country: other Comment: Dannyboy how many bottles of i product did you buy or use? Name: trish Country: india Comment: 1st they will get dark then they will bcom lighter. this is the natural healing process of the body. how dark r ur dark circles. dont wori afta maybe a week they will get lighter than b4 ok. Name: amy Country: england Comment: by the way are yours hereditory?? Name: amy Country: england Comment: trish did arnica work for you? I tried arnica after about a week my eye circles had got worse!!! Name: trish Country: india Comment: neem did not work for me either Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Lona, Thanks for lettin me know about betnovate... yes i-balm is good product and is still working for me... i'm just tryin to get rid of my Dark circles completely now 'internally'!! ..any boy else had results with hyaluronic acid or Neem capsules? Name: trish Country: india Comment: This is my personal experience with dark circles. After trying many creams including hylexin which still didnt work. i tried this remedy which worked: 30 X arnica 6 times a day in pellet/ liquid form.take after every 2 hrs. notice difference afta a week and a half. Name: padma Country: india Comment: i have darkcircles suggestme a best tip Name: lona Country: other Comment: Dannyboy do not apply betnovate under your eyes,its not for the thin skin and not even for the face,be careful, how is i-product (so far)? Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hi Wizz, no results with hyaluronic acid yet, i take Neem with that as well... i'm going to give it 2 months before i decide if its working for me or not! Yes I will give the betnovate skin cream a try if i have no success with my current treatment! Thanks for the info!! Name: bob Country: usa Comment: search google darkcircleforum to discuss dark circles and get some great tips! Name: Wizz Country: usa Comment: There is a very successful solution to dark circles which has worked for 3 people. Use betnovate skin cream on your dark circles everyday and they should be gone within a month. Im sori i cnt put the link of the website as this webpage doesnt allow me. Danny try this for sure. If this has worked for 3 people it will most probably work for u too. Name: jasn Country: india Comment: hdufcbdvdfgved Name: Wizz Country: usa Comment: Danny has the hyaluronic acid shown any effects? Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hi Lona, well it's up to you if you wish to buy it or not! i'm still using i-balm as its reduced by circles by quite a lot, but like i said b4.. it doesnt work miracles and i'm still trying to find a way to eradicate them completely! I am using i-balm once daily and ive recently started taking hyaluronic acid and Neem capsules.... i'll let you all know how i get on! Name: lona Country: other Comment: DannyBoy do you still recommending me to buy i-product or is it useless? Name: bluefish Country: england Comment: I too have had dark circles all my life, and diet, sleep exercise all have little or no effect. (Although not drinking enough water does make them worse.) I am thinking of trying something I have just seen on TV. Gale Hayman Lighten Up Eye Cream is expensive, but if you order it from QVC (probably only if you live in US UK or Germany where they have QVC) they give you thirty days to try it and you can send it back if it doesn't work for you and they give you your money back even if you've used most of it! They mentioned that one of the active ingredients was hylexin. If I do try it, I'll come back and say what happened. In the meantime, I thought maybe someone out there would like to know about it. Name: Wizz Country: usa Comment: I'm not sure if it wont work but capsules are absorbed better. Wen u eat the hyaluronic acid crush it maybe it mite help bt try and find the capsule form. Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Oh dear!!! Wizz, i bought hyaluronic acid in tablet form... will it not work for me then? whats the difference?... i bought the tablets cus it says on the bottle that it has gone through a hydrolyzation process to give it low molecular weight (to increase absorbsion) Name: Wizz Country: usa Comment: I think it shud make ur skin thicker. Im not sure but try hyaluronic acid in capsule form not in tablet form. Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: ...oh forgot to say; ive been on hyaluronic acid (50mg 2 times a day) for 3 days now... will keep you all updated with my progress! Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hi Laura, Yes ive heard of eyesential, i though it just gave your eyes a lift though... does it actually help with dark circles as well? ...and this is to Wizz, yes i know i know hyaluronic acid helps make collagen, but how that does help with Dark circles? ... i thought collagen just helped with aging skin? i'm 26 so i dont have any wrinkles (yet) lol ... just these horrible dark circles! Name: Laura Country: england Comment: Hi i bought eyesential from a company called certified natural uk, its best thing ive tried Name: Wizz Country: usa Comment: i know hyaluronic acid helps make collagen. Hope that helps. However there are some brands of hyaluronic acid that dont work as they use the large molecule and not the small. I guess u will hav to try around a few brands and see which one works for u. Name: sob Country: canada Comment: i want a pony :( Name: keenyah Country: australia Comment: PEOPLE PEOPLE..... green tea bag under eyes nowlets not freak out now!!! Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: OK ive taken Yipps advise and started with the hyaluronic acid, i still dont really understand why it can help with dark circles though??? can anyone shed sum light on this subject? ... has anyone else had any luck with taking it? Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Sorry lona, I Couldnt tell you... i bought mine off ebay!! ive just looked out the website 4 ya though and they use paypal to process cards... so ur covered by paypal's payment protection and on a secure connection... sorry thats about all i can tell you!! Name: lona Country: other Comment: Danny boy i would like to order i-product,but tell me do they have a secure service becasue i cant trust anyone to give him/her my cridet number how did you order? Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hi Yipp, ive not heard of taking hyaluronic acid for dark circles before, how did you find out that? has it worked for yourself... would be great to hear from you again regarding this matter! Also do you know how/or why hyaluronic acid works for dark circles? Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hey Lona, Yep still using i-balm... it has reduced my dark circles by about 50% and they are not coming back... dont think it will get rid of them completely tho but i already look 100 times better than before!! maybe the other 50% will need treating internally???... anyone got any idea's? Name: Alex Country: thailand Comment: Thnx Yipp that works wonders, I had light dark circles and they are almost gone. Thnx a lot! Name: anita Country: usa Comment: I also have dark circles, there is a doctor in palo alto california, who specializes in removing dark circles from ethnic people, like middle easterns and indians, he says it only takes one treatment. I have a consultation with him in oct, so i will let you all know. Name: yipp Country: india Comment: This is the best miracle worker. Take 50 mg capsule of hyaluronic acid morning and evening or simlar dosage. Dc's will definitely go my guarantee bt give it atleast 2 months for proper results. U may see results after a week. Name: lily Country: india Comment: i work in call center and my shifts starts from 5.30 to 2.30 and i rech my home by 4am,i do not get much time to sllep i just want to get rid of my dark circles,i when work on them it goes away but again cos of time i get that back so please HELP Name: blondie Country: usa Comment: I also have puffiness but when i have a chance to wake up it goes away! Thank gosh for that!! Name: blondie Country: usa Comment: I have these dark circles and it always bugs me i can never make them go away no matter what ive tried alot of sleep but it doesnt work!!!!!! Name: lona Country: other Comment: DannyBoy thank you for replying,do you still apply i-product or is it useless? Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: lona, Yep tried circle clear... alot of people on this page have as well... not heard one gud thing about it yet!! def didnt work on me anyway! Name: Stoney Country: usa Comment: It's obvious everyone here has eye problems beyond that of 'dark circles', which is indicative by your use of grammer, punctuation and type style. Name: lona Country: other Comment: I have read that SkinDoctors CircleClear ia a good product did someone try it? Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Lona, Yeah i'm havin gud results with the product, its not a cream, its sum sort of liquid in a small dropper bottle!! it hasnt worked any miracles but its by far the best ive found so far! Name: lona Country: other Comment: DannyBoy i tried almost all kind of beauty products but no progress,but i'm not sure if i will buy i-product becuse i do not want to give my credit nu.,there is no name for the company,,,? how is it going with you? Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hey lona, errr i got mine off ebay but ive just yahoo'ed it and the website is dark-circle-under-eyes (with the usual ending, this site doesnt let you post web addresses) So what creams have you tried so far? Name: lona Country: other Comment: Danny Boy from where can people buy i-Balm product? Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hi lona, ive tried nearly every cream out there... the last one i tried was Ocuderm (which i had high hopes for)... but the only one I�ve had results with so far is a liquid product (not a cream) called i-Balm... it's reduced them by about 45% so far, which I�m pretty happy with... I guess only time will tell if it eradicates them completely!! Name: lona Country: other Comment: DannyBoy what kind of cream did you use? Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hi Suda, beleive me, home remedies just dont work... but its a fact that a high percentage (50-70%) of people from India (such as yourself) suffer from IDA iron deficiency anemia and this causes dark circles around the eyes! So make sure youre getting enough iron in your diet and/or take suppliments! Name: suda Country: india Comment: this site is great.but kindly someone tell me some home remedies for darkcircles. Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Just a quick update... ive stopped using Ocuderm now as i dont really think it did anything for me... i-balm is working great though... after about 4 weeks use; it has reduced the darkness by about 40-50% which i'm very happy with! i just hope it continues to work! Name: tim Country: england Comment: has anyone tried the new cream milexin MD. very synical about these creams but this sounds convincing. Name: Prakash Country: india Comment: I have heavy dark circles under my eyes i guess because of lack of iron in the body and sitting infront of computer and cold tendency.I am 31. Name: NTM Country: usa Comment: Another cure for dark circles: 1. Sleep 2. no Alcohol or drugs 3. injectable fillers (no joke) Dark circles are mainly caused by the skin under the eyes becoming thinner as we age and thus you are more likely to see the capillaries and veins. A more costly alternative is to get Restalyne fillers under the eyes to "fill in" the hollows. I read that in New Beauty Magazine. Name: NTM Country: usa Comment: Hylexin worked wonders for me. Although the results were not very dramatic they were enough that with a little tiny bit concealer I was fine. Now that I ran out of Hyelxin I see a BIG difference--so much that I am heading to pick it up after work. It may not work for some--but I saw inprovements. It's expensive though and there are new creams out there that are maybe even Better. So-do your research. Name: pam Country: england Comment: i have had dark circles for a long time.always went out buyin creams truthfuly dey dont work.wat i do now is i use ysl foundation n touche eclait concealer ok dis is wat i do i put da foundation all ova my face n eyes den i get the concealer bout 1-2 drops of concealer n 1 drop of foundation mix dem 2getha n dab under my eye n on my eye lids it will luk bit wet so get a sponge triangle shape n dab with it.ur skin will luk glowy aswell.one more ting dat i use everyday is aloe vera foundation its a creamy powder foundation n its covers all ur dark circles den i put powder on my face 2 set all my make n trust me no1 will say 2 u dat dey cn c ur dark circles. every gurl wants 2 luk beautiful.go out dere n buy ur foundation Name: smita Country: india Comment: dark circle make my beauty uncomplete.any home made care. Name: ellen Country: usa Comment: im 33 now and it seems ive been battling these circles for a long time . i still blame it on my husband . creams dont seem to work , i recently found out about putting a cold wash cloth on your eyes for 15-20 minutes every nite (something about the blood vessels) i will start tonite . Name: Yip Country: india Comment: Take high dose of glucosamine. Gets rid of dark circles as it builds collagen. Name: honestman Country: usa Comment: I think the best solution for hiding dark circles is to wear dark sun glasses, its cool and stylish also. Name: Princess Country: usa Comment: Hylexin didn't work for me at all. I used it for 4 weeks without any noticeable improvement and had to stop because it really dried out my skin. I have tried everything and my dark circles will not go away! Actually they seem to be getting worse. I am even taking iron supplements because I heard that iron deficiency may cause dark circles, but it hasn't improved....HELP! Name: no credit check car loan Country: india Comment: faxless payday loan overnight no credit check car loan from home loan mortgage processor work graduate loan private school cash advance america Name: maria Country: england Comment: i have dark circles, and i have had them since i have had diabetes...i just wondered if any one knows if there is a connection at all? Name: i Country: other Comment: a Name: shar Country: canada Comment: Dark circles or dark patches on skin is due to dryness and acidity. Alkalize your diet, more veges, and wash face twice morning and afternoon. When using creams avoid fancy creams Buy the base of creams for example glaxal base (or go to the drugstores and ask for the base cream they use to mix drugs) make sure to put it on on every part of your skin under eyes carefully rub it on lightly. to seal it in use vaseline (petroleum jelly ) on it. you can take off excess with kleenex paper for day time, but at night make sure to seal. for people with very dry skin it will take longer to see the results. It does work Name: shar Country: canada Comment: Dark circles or dark patches on skin is due to dryness and acidity. Alkalize your diet, more veges, and wash face twice morning and afternoon. When using creams avoid fancy creams Buy the base of creams for example glaxal base (or go to the drugstores and ask for the base cream they use to mix drugs) make sure to put it on on every part of your skin under eyes carefully rub it on lightly. to seal it in use vaseline (petroleum jelly ) on it. you can take off excess with kleenex paper for day time, but at night make sure to seal. for people with very dry skin it will take longer to see the results. It does work Name: LondonChick Country: england Comment: Hey all, Just like Bruce I had a consultation at London Laser clinic in Fulham. It just seems too good to be true. I have spoken to various laser clinics in London and surely enough the Fulham clinic are the only ones in UK who are brave enough to laser dark circles. All other clinics warned me that often lasers aren't effective and its a waste of money and too risky!! In the US...it seems that lasers are def. combatting the dark circles from what Ive seen of the many websites that exist. I recently had an email consultation with Dr Seckel (who is one of the top cosmetic surgeons in the US!). He specialises in filling in hollow eyes which are the cause of most dark circles. He saw my pix and felt that I should have fat repositioned underneath rather then have the YAG laser done as the Fulham clinic suggest. I am VERY eager to avoid actual surgery..plus travelling to US will be tough due to work commitments. So I've decided to put aside my nerves and book my first laser treatment with the Fulham clinic. Its expensive but hey if it works to even remove 40% of the darkness I'll be happy!!! I'll let you all know how it goes. Bruce..how is your treatment progressing? Name: jazz Country: usa Comment: i need to get rid of these dard cilcles how do i do it i maybe only 13 but i need help Name: abi Country: india Comment: kiwi try putting the name of the website instead of the whole address? you cant put some words in also like s.e.x Name: KiwiPandaBear Country: other Comment: I appear not to be allowed to post a suggestion on this site that may help some of you. I get told that due to the site's rules my comment will not be posted! But I have looked and can't seem to locate the rules of this Forum. Is there a rule about not being able to suggest a website that I found of interest, (as that is what I am trying to include in my Comment)? Name: anna campbell Country: australia Comment: Marty. i have had eye surgery above and under the eyes in february. i would be aware that if your girlfriend has fat underneath her eyes as well as darkness then having this proceedure done can make the skin loose. and Then the drama of tightening the skin becomes more major than the Dark cirlcles. I found that Retin A did cancel out a bit of the dark cirlce. and i don't get it as much. I am told by Laser doctor that having Portrait lasering the beneath the skin will tighten the skin and crows feet and also help with the Darkness under the eyes. I do look alot more fresher beneath the eyes. BUT BEFORE YOUR GIRLFRIEND HAS ANY SURGERY DO YOUR HOMEWORK, BECAUSE TO ALLIMINATE ONE THING CAN CAUSE ANOTHER. i am just saying this so you cover all your bases first. Dark circles are also something i have had my whole life. and my girls also. I guess i feel the retin A cream has help during the day. still i get darker at night. i hope this is some help. Name: Ana Country: england Comment: I have dark thin skin under my eyes but in the corner of my eyes its BLUE does any one know how i could get rid of that Name: Dark Circles Country: usa Comment: I truly thought I was thee only one who had this problem I've always heard of tea bags and placing cucumbers on the eye. Name: joana Country: france Comment: hi! Im asking the same like the girl did. HYLEXIN! ANY RESULTS? PLEASE WRITE Name: jossy Country: canada Comment: i have dark circles under my eyes and i hate them so much i put so much make up on them to cover them up but it dont do any thing and i want them gone so bad any ideas because i am sick of them and sick of looking in the mirror and seeing them there Name: a girl Country: india Comment: Did anyone witk dark circels tried HYLEXIN? Any good results? Please answer me. bye bye, be happy! Name: blue light laser acne treatment Country: india Comment: acne laser treatment nj blue light laser acne treatment laser acne treatment san diego laser treatment acne prices acne laser treatment result Name: Kathleen Country: netherlands Comment: Great new site about mature mom cum inside mom. Millions pics and movies t2}! Name: Tawauna Country: usa Comment: I really feel everyone pain about these dark circles uderneath/around the eyes. I too have had these all my life, being African American hasn't helped at all. I tired every fade/bleaching cream known to man. They help alittle, but once you stop using it, the circles will reappear. There is not a day that goes by when I am not thinking of a way to get rid of these circles. I couldn't believe the amount of people who suffer from these circles. They truly have been hell for me all 32 years of my life. I never wore makeup, because I have pretty good skin, never had acne problems...only rings, as I call them. I am almost in tears because I truly thought I was alone, but to you all that battle the RINGS, things could be worst. Keep your head up and believe in the Lord. Name: carmelatrix Country: usa Comment: Dark Circles can often be caused because of Allergies. Try eliminating dairy and wheat from your diet and see if they go away. Name: Gabby Country: australia Comment: I HATE MY DARK CIRCLES!!!! I have had them evr scince i was born... its due to heritary thiness under my eyes which shows the veins! its on the bottom and the top of my eyes and it has lead me to depression and anorexia... but im over that.. i eat healthy, drink pleanty of water, excercise, and take vitamins and minerals each day!! why wont they go!! i have also tried heaps of creams, sythetic, and herbal, the crap dont work!!! CAN ANY one recommend a product or a prcedure that will kill the veins??? i need help im desperate and please just tell me! Name: Kira Country: usa Comment: Hey everyone, I have had dark circles all my life. My father is Indian and I think, as many of you seem to, that it's hereditary. I've gotten mixed reviews, though more good, about ocuderm. Has anyone with a similar situation to myself tried it? Name: DeadPunk Country: england Comment: Hey for all u dudes who were asking for Ocuderm in the UK you can buy it for about �50 - �20 off Ebay xxx Name: savannah Country: singapore Comment: my circles get dark when there is lighting overhead(which is most of the time), including the sun. they make me so conscious and im aware of them ALL the time. it makes my life completely miserable. even makeup doesnt help. my circles are so terrible dark, they are literally GREY, tottaly diff. shede frm my face and its so obvious. someone pls help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Name: Anu Country: usa Comment: Hi Ladies and Gentlemen, Hylexin from the Bremann Research Lab is going to heal your Dark Circles from the inside out. It reduces the leakege in the eye which causes Dark Circles. People who use it the right way will find results. You must apply a very small amount under your eye with a tapping motion and gently - no harsh rubbing it in. Apply to a washed face in morning and night. Dont rub your eyes or wash it off by crying. The area must be left alone. You will see results within a week. Its worth the $95 bucks. One tube goes a long way, mine lasted upto 6 months. Take vitamins such as Centrum or Oil of Olay, drink juices and water, eat healthy, get 8 hours of sleep every night, do meditation, and work out 3 times a week. You will feel better and look great. Name: tanya Country: india Comment: i am 17 yrs old and hav dark circles which are not going away. i hav tried many creams but the condition is still the same ..and i want to remove that permanently.. i am very deppressed because of this .. plz help Name: sara Country: usa Comment: hii..i have dark circles since child hood!i sleep well..eatwell but they dont dis appear..drink lots ofwater..what should i use to make them disappear??? Name: sam Country: england Comment: face it they aint gonna go are they... theres no point spendin all this money with dsolutions that don;t worl- your best bet is just to buy good make up and not let ur partner see u without it on- touche eclat is crap btw avon foundation is good Name: jenny Country: usa Comment: if you lay in a tanning bed you dont notice the DC as bad Name: lifesstory Country: germany Comment: actually im not gonna dismiss this right away! one thing you failed to mention and that is does this count for girls to? well i researched it and came up with loadsa information and it does count for both sexes so hmm it's another thing to try right? the symptoms i came up with in these articles was. there appears boils on the body eyes sight is weak dark blue circles and suniken around eyes. and emaciated. so it sounds like a loss of nutrients.. my english is not too good sorry if i may have made mistake Name: iknowhwatswhat!! Country: usa Comment: by the way hardly anything to do with skin is genetic. doctors just tell you that crap so you buy their antibiotics which makes them money and makes you ill ILL illlll!!!!!!!!!! i tellz ya loool Name: iknowhwatswhat!! Country: usa Comment: MaStuRbAaTiON is the number one cause of dark circles. If you have purple dark circles chances are you also look pale. and you are quite shy, and tall but very thinnish. so like you need to cut that stuff out. and i guarantee if you manage to make a few months without wasting your fluidz you will prob notice you have gained weight and feel better skin problems clear up etc. mind becomes awake!! WAKEY WAKEY!! unfortunatly us teenagers today love nothing more than to do intercourse and whack off but hey it's our downfall, if you fix it look at how your body changes afterwards and how calm and happy you become . girls have nothing on us if we can control ourselves guyz Name: Me Country: england Comment: I'm 34 and I have really bad DC and they are hereditory. I am about to try Hexylin. At the moment I use YSL Touche Eclat concealer. Good coverage and very light. I have tried many concealers and this one is the only one that I can wear without having to put ther rest of my make up on and it looks naturally. The price is �22 and it lasts for approx. 6 months. Name: kittykat Country: australia Comment: hi this may be a while back but on the neem solution, has it been working? and what about NAC? Name: Hanny_bunny Country: england Comment: I am 17 and have darlk circles, and have had from a young age. Just interested does applying KIWI fruit to under your eyes help? Sure I heard that somewhere... H Name: SD Country: india Comment: Hi My brother thought that my dark circles were not as dark as before I started using circle clear, I'm unsure though - A waste of money I think. Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: ...Oh sorry 4got to add, ive just started to use a product called i-balm yesterday.... i'm now using Ocuderm in the morning and i-balm at nite... well let you know if it works! Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hey everyone, just wanted to say i have been using Ocuderm for over a month now and i think it has worked a little bit... i dont think its worth the money i paid for it tho :( ... oh well, the search for a successful treatment goes on!!! .... i will give you another update on Ocuderm soon! Name: mary Country: usa Comment: UCKHHHHH! I WANT TO JUST DIE COS OF THESE ENORMOUS DARK CIRCLES UNDER MY EYES. They are genetic as opposed to having come as a result of a bad lifestyle. I am a true Panda. That should be my name. Ugly. Even an Eribium laser hasnt got rid of the darkness. There is only plastic surgery left for me. I am still young (early 20s) but shall I do it? Name: Zoie Country: usa Comment: Hey im Indian though i live in the USA. my dad is Indian too. im just wondering if the genetics are that indians get dark circles, because i have seen a lot of indians with them. i dont know if anything will work on them because they're genetic. im just so glad im not the only one with this problem. anyone have any comments about this? Name: Lisa Country: other Comment: Hey if you all try sleeping and maybe you use a gentle cream and stay away from stress your dark eyes may fade Name: neha Country: india Comment: u guys can contact my family health n skin consultant who has really helped me with dark circles and other skin challenges.she is amazing person.her contact name is divya. her number is 0-9243107681 she is in bangalore all the best neha Name: shaza Country: england Comment: almond oil is a natrual bleeching agent and safe round the eyes fro dark circles - cheap and it works or if u wanna spend a bit more try lancome primoridale eye cream its great and also anti ageing and help puffy eyes too Name: summer Country: southafrica Comment: Intrested if the ocuderm has positive effect to your wife's eyes why she dose not write the message by her self!!!!!!!!!!!! Name: help Country: england Comment: has anybody tried home remedies and has anything worked?ive had dark circles since i was little as i got very ill when i was younger and the circles have not gone..I hate them..especially when people tell me there dark Name: interested Country: england Comment: I note the comment on Ocuderm being a waste of money. For UK users, having now tried Ocuderm for 2 weeks (see earlier comments)my wife has noticed a positive difference - but it has not been a complete cure. I don't think there's any one thing that will help everyone. Sometimes I reckon diet or lifestyle is the key, sometimes not. Sometimes one cream will help, sometimes not. Anyway, as Ocuderm does seem to have been of some use in my wife's case, I will as promised give the details of the UK retailers I used. I can't recall their website address but they are called NHB Limited, 2 Manor Close, Minchinhampton, Glos. GL6 9DG. It was �56 (cheque to NHB Limited) which wasn't cheap but I've seen it sold for more - and that price did include P&P but it did take a week to reach us. I did see another site which offered next day delivery at �59.99. I wonder if Danny Boy has anything to add on Ocuderm in the UK as he was also using it? Name: usra Country: india Comment: i m usin an vitamin E capsule on my DCs..can anybody tell me is it safe to swallow the rest of the capsule n how long shd i use it ??any1 tried it b4? Name: Dave Country: usa Comment: Well I just found this site because i'm trying to figure out how to solve my purpleish cirlces by the way I also started to get grey hair when I was 20 seems like their is connection somhow does anybody know what deficiency I might have due to grey ahir and purplish circles under my eyes Name: boy Country: usa Comment: ocuderm is waste stuff...waste of money Name: boy Country: usa Comment: ocuderm is waste stuff...waste of money Name: concerta medication for adhd Country: india Comment: concerta medication for adhd concerta medication concerta medicine concerta online concerta overdose concerta price concerta review concerta side effects concerta withdrawal concerta Name: Jasmien Country: netherlands Comment: use almond oil, sleep 8 hours and clean your face everyday, drink a lot of juice and water and eat a lot of fruit. Within' two weeks you see the difference. Name: hmm Country: france Comment: noooooo guys stop him!! you cannot and i won't let you so :P these surgerys are so risky and how can it possibly remove the shadows. the only thing thatcan remove the shadows is a clean body. at least look into those flushes because you do something so rash! and expensive for a start lol . your eyes are the liver thats all you need to know. so think about it du drink? du smoke? what colour are your circles? Name: C Country: england Comment: I have decided to get a consultation with a plastic surgeon - saw a programme tonight where they could actually cut part of the muscle away from under your eye and thus reduce the shadow it causes. Maybe they could kind of stretch the skin a bit too so the dark line under the eye does not appear so 'concentrated' if you get what I mean. I have not heard of ONE person to say CATEGORICALLY that a specific eye cream has helped in the way that the problem no longer is a problem. One thing I always wonder, is how my DC's compare to others. I occasionally see others say in a shopping mall with DC's and I wonder if mine are that bad. Wouldn't you love to see yourself and realise what other people see? Or maybe not...! AAAAAAAAARRRRRGHHHH. I'm scared my girlfriend will realise how ugly they make me.. which I know is stupid but can't help it :( Name: Godiva? Country: india Comment: Have any one used the whitenning starter pack from Godiva?. I used it for the first week and my skin was so dry and started peeling off. My face now seems darker...Asked Godiva for explanations and still have no response yet. Very scared and disapointed... Name: ivy Country: australia Comment: I have been applying occuderm on my dark circles for the last 3 weeks and have not noticed any improvement. Will try to finish the whole jar and let you know the result. Name: hmm Country: france Comment: i'd look into liver flushes. i read liver is like anger the emotion and gallbladder is bitterness. sounds so freakin cool :D Name: Tilly Country: england Comment: My sympathies to everyone suffering with dark circles, as I am (and have been since I was 8; I'm now 34.)I have tried Hylexin and found it okay. The only reason I haven't got it again is that it's so expensive. I think our expectations of it are based on how expensive it is. If you are using it, persevere, follow the instructions and you should notice a difference after about 3 weeks. I'm saving up (!) to try Ocuderm, if I can get it here, but in the meantime, I'm going to try some natural remedies like cucumbers on the eyes and eating foods rich in vitamin K. I also have issues with sugar so I'm going to try and cut that out. For those who want to do a liver detox, milk thistle is a natural supplement which cleanses the liver. I hope you find this advice useful. Good luck everybody. Name: jojo Country: england Comment: my dark cirlces have gotten worse since i had my child. always look like i have been punched now. i eat healthily, drink 2 litres of water per day, excersise and get 8-9 hours sleep a night. my parents dont have them, so dont think its heretirory. Doctor did lots of blood tests and am not anemic or anything. I have tried tons of expensive creams and tons of herbal things - NOTHING WORKS. I still think something is wrong with me cause I feel like crap a lot of the time. Its gotten so bad makeup doesnt even cover them now like it did b4 i had my baby. Name: hmm Country: france Comment: Wow pussy cat arn't you just hillarious don't you all agree.. :D look into liver flushes i heard they help to guys. i think i saw one without yucky epsom you basically eat raw foods for like four days and then drink a whole cup of olive oil on the 5th day and like then lemonade real lemonade lool not the bottled stuff haha. in other words lemons sorry i love to write and write and write am i boring ya yet!! good wooooo cartooonzz byee Name: Pussy Country: india Comment: Im indian pussy .. love masturbating.. DARK CIRCLES Name: Danny Boy Country: england Comment: Hi Leah, Unfortunately there is no magic cure or Miricle cream! dark circles can be caused by so many different factors that what might work for someone may not work for somebody else! Name: Leah Country: usa Comment: I have read alot of posts on this site... Many people say help me I'm only seventeen. Well Here's my problem I am 13 years old and I sleep 7 to eight hours a night or at least try to. What's a girl to do if ya have to get up at 6:00 in the morning for school??? Please help me .. Today a friend of mine told me I looked like I had been punched and had a black eye. Asked me what was wrong and I said , Oh nothing... They just get like this. WHAT CAN I DO ???? Name: tarnish Country: other Comment: just wanted to say hi and im glad we already formed a community...yay and more power to us Name: hmm Country: france Comment: one last time just get a suntan this summer looking white is ugly anyways. just be real safe and don't abuse natures power lol Name: boo Country: india Comment: I heard that potatos work if you sprinkle your eyes with water first and then leave sliced potato on your eyes for at least 10 minutes Name: carry Country: australia Comment: Some products I have tried and their results: Liposculpte, Combined Vitamin K and Retinol - Irritated my eyes. No significant improvement. Skin Doctors, Circle Clear 15ml - Irritated my eyes. No significant improvement. Roots Herbal, Dark Circles & Puffy Bags - I am waiting for this in the mail. Will keep you posted. Has anyone else tried this? Plain Apple Cider Vinegar under eyes for 30 min - I read this idea from this web site. Will try this one out today. Name: wellwisher Country: usa Comment: ladies....have u heard about lasertreatment try that... other wise carrot juice +carrot pulp on circles every day 2-3 times Name: SD Country: england Comment: No results yet! Name: Vince Country: usa Comment: Do not buy hylexin. I have tried it and it is totally worthless. It doesn't work on dark circles at all! Name: tDark Circles Country: usa Comment: I found this site because I have and have had DARK CIRCLES since I have been born. Life is so very strange and I realize that dark circles are not so bad considering if I did not have them I NEVER would have did research and found a WHOLE WORLD out there then just here. I want to apologize for thinking so narrow minded and I applaud each and every human in this whole world. We are all the same in the end. GOD BLESS...... Name: dark circle Country: usa Comment: first of all STEVE from the USA is a total SCUM..... Now for the real subject I have had dark circles since I can remember and I am 44 yrs old. I was told at age 16 by the family doctor that it was hereidatary. I had no choice but to accept and try to cover up with alot of makeup. I have tried so many products to get rid of only to have put myself in debt. HELP..... I read that cucumber juice is supposed to help but could not find details..... If anyone knows please let me know.....Thanks. Name: interested Country: england Comment: Ocuderm has now arrived - so I will let you know if it works and, if so, where to order it from Name: steven Country: usa Comment: i need a 13 year old girl to masterbate me Name: jessica Country: other Comment: i read in other chat article that some people have used ocuderm and got a result after 2 weeks but im not sure if she or he is joking Name: Innocent Country: zambia Comment: I tried everything and sukin on a c()o()c()k will it help prevent my dark circles and watermelons Name: Innocent Country: zambia Comment: help Name: apple Country: usa Comment: Has anyone tried Ocuderm? Did it work? What eye creams do work? Name: DannyBoy Country: england Comment: ...to respond to Joanne, circle clear didnt work for me either, nor have a heard it work for anyone for that matter!! ... i have tried loads of different eye creams tho and so far nothing has worked but i've been doing a lot of research lately and the best way to rid them is using a retinol based cream at night and a vitamin k cream in the morning, I have been currently using this regaime for about 2 days now so it's obviously too early to say if it's working or not but i will let everyone know how i get on! I am using Roc Retin-Ox at night and Dermalogics Ocuderm in the morning! Name: hmm Country: france Comment: oh cool :D yup i mean just buy a great chemical free sunblock and sun bathe every few days gradually the circles will become the colour of your skin. we are in air by nature so like we should run around outdoors always anyways. hmm fasting should really be a two week healing process so i read anyways. have you tried orange juice fasting. nothing but orgage juice and pineapple for a week? maybe that will hewlp you out :) Name: usra Country: india Comment: what do u mean by tannin safely....shd v tann under air conditioned ?? during our 1 month fasting v dont eat or drink anythg frm our fajr prayers till maghrib its like 9 to 10 hrs fasting and after tht its up to u u can eat anythg u want.. Name: hmm Country: france Comment: well yer they will cause your losing fat everywhere but after starting eating again you would gain it back even more. stick with the sun then lol. usra when ya fast like do you not eat anything? for a month. just water? Name: usra Country: india Comment: no i dont agree man!!! cuz i m muslim and i hav fasting period fr a month n tell u durin fasting u hav low BP and u feel lethargic and at the same time DCs look more prominent and obvious ... Name: jessica Country: other Comment: okay people is dark circles problem internaly or externaly?is it solved by herbs or cream/ Name: hmm Country: france Comment: oh yup and don't smoke. and don't eat every single day check out fasting it heals the body lol and well everyone knows eat healthily coz you lot are prats haha if you don't ( that is thinking you can get rid of your problems ) and also enjoy life to the full do not shut yourself out from it or you will never feel good and when your mind doesn't feel good then you don't look it either. emotions are stronger than pills.. byeeezie Name: hmm Country: france Comment: hey serious dudes just sun tan safely you won't have to deal with circles i promise. Name: rash Country: usa Comment: I have terrible dark circles since I was 16... they dont simply go... I plan on getting "Hylexin" do u think it might work or will it just be a waste of $$$? Please lemme know soon...thanx Name: joanne Country: australia Comment: i have been using 'skin doctors' circle clear, to reduce the dark appearance of dc, and the 'skin doctor's' eyetuck, to deduce the appearance of under-eye bags, after 4weeks, using day and night, i have had no change!!!!! had anyone had success with these products before? Name: DannyBoy Country: england Comment: Can sumone please tell me where i can get 'Ocuderm' from in the UK, 'interested' said his wife purchased from a UK company! Name: lady with dark circles Country: usa Comment: would like to know how to get rid of them iam 38 and dont think i should have theese realy dark circles under my eyes who can help me find a way to get of them Name: interested Country: england Comment: I would be interested to know how SD is getting on with Circle Clear. My wife has ordered Ocuderm via a UK company and is awaiting its arrival. I can let you have details when it arrives. Name: SD Country: england Comment: Hi I have been using circle clear for about 2 weeks now and I will let you know the results in 6 weeks time. (It says on the box that you should see results in as little as 8 weeks). Name: John Country: england Comment: Does anyone out there no where you can buy Ocuderm in the UK as it only seems to be sold in the US? Name: WOW Country: usa Comment: What I learned from this sight is a lot of people have dark circles. Creams and vitamins don�t work. Best advice that sounded like it worked was tan, or hide them with makeup. I guess it�s a part of life to live with. Name: hmm Country: france Comment: how about tanning safely sunblock galore and then your skin will colour the circles. the sun exists for a reason just don't abuse it and drink water like crazy man! Name: usra Country: india Comment: yes C thr u r..when u look in daylight at ur DCs..they look terribly worse...n when i m at work..my whole energy n confidence seems to u know...pulldown and since i m a gal i hav to face much harder time than u n concealers dont do anythg they can just make that black area a bit lighter but still u can't hide the dia n sunken look thru concealors... Name: C Country: england Comment: Hi.. I am in my early twenties and have had blue/purple under eye circles since I can remember. It seems that there are SO many ideas and 'solutions' out there which suggests that everyone reacts differently to different remedies. I fear mine are heriditory (I go to the gym a lot, eat very healthily and get at least 8-9hours sleep every night) so I know it is not my lifestyle which may be the reason for others. My liver and kidneys are also in good condition. The thing that makes it worse, is that I am a guy- I can not wear makeup, foundation etc, and I find concealer tends to make the whole area really shiny and unnatural.How many of you are guys? It does tend to be more women/girls but at least you can attempt to hide it. I do not need glasses, but I want to wear them so as to hide myself. Has anyone else looked in a mirror in the daylight outside (when there is hardly any sun). They really look worse then. I hope you guys can live with our embarassment, it really is getting me down. Take care. Name: ivy Country: australia Comment: Bruce, I think I have seen similar pictures of the women on Circle Clear and Ocuderm. Hmm, wonder if they both produce the same result???. Circle Clear is much cheaper than Ocuderm. Not sure if I should get Ocuderm when it is only available in USA. Name: bruce Country: southafrica Comment: Has anyone noticed that the before and after photo of the woman in the "Circle Clear" advert seems to be very similar (if not the same) as the photos used for "Ocuderm"? Or am I imagining things? Name: Panda Gal Country: singapore Comment: Im 19 and had dark undereye circles since i was young. Tried lots of products and wasted lots of money and my dark undereye circles are still there!!! Now im totally dependent on concealers,but they still show out under strong light. Can someone give us a Cure that really works?? Btw, has anyone tried visiting MTM Japan?? Heard that they do custom blending skincare for undereye circles. Name: usra Country: india Comment: i m clueless in gettin an apt solution fr DCs.nothin seems to work...i even cut down gluten fr abt 3 months but still they are thr..n cuz of this prob i guess i m losin my overall confidence day by day... Name: Chris Country: canada Comment: Recreational drug use, such as the use of marijiuana will contribute to the look of dark circles. I dont know if it is reversible over time. The use of oral evening primrose oil capsules has helped a little... Name: algy Country: usa Comment: If you spend $95 on Hylexin, you are probably wasting your money. I have to say I bought the sales hype and tried a tube. After 3 months, there is absolutely no difference whatsoever. This product is a complete scam I'm afraid. Name: Rami Country: other Comment: Ric52 i do not agree with you,i used neem fresh leaves last year and the result was wonderful i got rid of my ugly brown circles. Name: Frustrated teen Country: australia Comment: Hey everyone i'm 17 and have had dark circles for ages!!! My dc's are purple- brown but i don't know whether it's hereditary because no one else in my family has dark circles!!! Name: joanne Country: australia Comment: Angel, thanks, will try it with you. Name: Angel Country: australia Comment: For anyone interested, Everderm-CL website is offering a free 30-day trial of their product, shipping to Aus costs about $17. Not bad, might as well try! Name: sam Country: england Comment: Ive had dark circles since i was 12yrs old now iam 26yrs old.It really effects me, i always have to wear concealers and sometimes towards the end of the day i look awful! as my concealer seems to fade away and the eye area looks even more darker!"..ive tried all sorts of creams, iave even had laser treatment done..it was no good, but iam still not giving up, iam going to try a chemical peel..i'l let all you guys know how it goes..wish me luck..apparently it takes several layers of your skin off. In the meantime you lot should try fresh mint just use the juice of it and apply on the eye area..it might work i havent tried it yet though,,,need to get to the supermarket!... Name: Ric52 Country: england Comment: Why does this damn forum thing have to double post?!?! I clicked on "submit" once! Name: Ric52 Country: england Comment: Hope, mate you're talking crap. I have these black/blue circles but they are, I can assure you, hereditry and they are nothing to do with kidney function, my doctor showed me my kidney data and it was perfect, just my liver wasn't very good, but that was when I had a small virus so it wasn't expected to be good. Other people in my family have these, and for a fact I can tell you my immune system is excellent and I hardly ever get ill, if I do, far less and for far shorter periods of time than anyone else. I have a very healthy body generally with no troubles or depression but I look ugly as sin with these black eyes. On closer inspection they are basically blue bulging veins. My only "body issues" that might affect them or cause them are being naturally thin, haveing transparent (thin) skin with lots of veins visible on my body, and low blood pressure (poor circulation). I tell you it is no sign of "intoxification". Name: Ric52 Country: england Comment: Hope, mate you're talking crap. I have these black/blue circles but they are, I can assure you, hereditry and they are nothing to do with kidney function, my doctor showed me my kidney data and it was perfect, just my liver wasn't very good, but that was when I had a small virus so it wasn't expected to be good. Other people in my family have these, and for a fact I can tell you my immune system is excellent and I hardly ever get ill, if I do, far less and for far shorter periods of time than anyone else. I have a very healthy body generally with no troubles or depression but I look ugly as sin with these black eyes. On closer inspection they are basically blue bulging veins. My only "body issues" that might affect them or cause them are being naturally thin, haveing transparent (thin) skin with lots of veins visible on my body, and low blood pressure (poor circulation). I tell you it is no sign of "intoxification". Name: kate Country: australia Comment: I am 22 and have had dark circles under my eyes since i was a teenager. I was concerned it could be related to iron deficiency or liver or kidney problems, but i recently got a medical and i am perfectly healthy. unfortunately, mine are hereditary. My 13 yr old sister is getting them too. But i do suffer from hayfever and nasal congestion, which i read can be the culprit. So my next step is to see an allergy doctor. So if anyone suffers from constant cold type symptoms it can be from an allergy which if diagnosed may be treated. I do look better when i conceal them but i am so embarrassed to go out newhere without makeup. I know that creams wont cure the extent of my dark circles so im hoping someone has ideas on what surgery is available to help them?? It seems everything else can be fixed except DC and anyone who has them like i do knows just how horrible and embarrassing it is! Name: Sphere Country: australia Comment: I've read great reviews on ocuderm on the internet and I would very much like to try it myself. The problem is, it is only sold in the US and Europe. I've tried amazon and they do not post it to Australia. Does anybody know why? Has anybody gotten it in Australia? It's a pain to find out there is a great product out there worth trying but you can't get hold of in your own country. Name: Petuta Country: usa Comment: I have had dark circles noticeably since the age of 11. I am 40 now and have darkness almost all the way around the eye area. I have been teased from middle school through graduation, I am always asked if I am tired, I wear sunglasses most of the time. I have tried lots products that didn't work. I have really given up hope on getting rid of them however, if I could find a really good concealer I would settle for that. I currently use foundation but I can never find the right shade to blend with my skin color. I really don't like wearing make up but I feel forced to because of the dark circles. Help! Name: usra Country: india Comment: 1 thing that piss me off to the point of combustion is tht v spend alot of effort n money on just makin our DCs look a lill better...avoid junk n sugar n all..and what happens when v think they r a bit better ..ONLY one night irritated sleep or incomplete sleep cause havoc...n when get up in the mornin it feels like killin ownself...this DC is i guess a slow poison to all of its sufferres!!! Name: usra Country: india Comment: hey i m not gettin it here in my country...circle clear i hope is a good 1 do try it n see.. Name: Joanne Country: australia Comment: Mr Duke Frances, get off our sight and dont come back, we are only interested in dc, hey has any body tried the skin doctor's product circle clear???? Name: MR.DUKE FRANCIS Country: dubai Comment: Good day, I am looking for your cooperation in building a Tourist Hotel or Real Estate in your country. I am sorry if this is not in line with your business. I need an experienced person like you to assist me to set up,develop the project. On the resumption of the project, you will be made a Director for the role and the assistance you rendered. You will also be entitled to a percentage agreed upon between me (MR.DUKE FRANCIS) and you before the commencement of the project. However, Your immediate reply will be highly appreciated and I shall give you more information on this project. Please contact me at my private e-mailaddress Thanks and God bless. MR.DUKE FRANCIS Name: goldhouma Country: usa Comment: no not 3 capsuls SORRY take just one (Swallow) in the mornig then break one and rub under eyes...Sorry 3 is incorrect Name: goldhouma Country: usa Comment: I have had dark circles under my eyes for as long as I can remember... someone told me about vitamin deficentcys.. so I tryed it...now my under eyes are about six shades lighter than they used to be.. heres what I did..I bought vitamin A(8000iu) and D(400iu) combo, I took three gel capsuls in the morning and then cut one capsul and messaged the liquid under my eyes every day.(did not wash off). on the second day I started to notice improvements. I have been doing this for a week now and I'm so happy! I don't look like II deathly ill anymore!!!! I will slack off of the massage and see what happens.... just thought I'd share this with all of you It worked!!!!! for me anyway. Name: MJP Country: usa Comment: I purchased ocuderm and I should receive it in about a week. I'll keep you updated on the results. Good Luck to everybody. Name: imnoOne Country: germany Comment: mrs chang was nothin but a fraud Name: HANNAH Country: england Comment: HI THERE... ANYONE TRIED MRS CHANG STUFF AND HAS IT WORKED? Name: marty Country: usa Comment: I investigated into this problem for my girlfriend. I was told by a doctors receptionist that Blethoplasty will get rid of them completely and your eyes will look like a babys. Now I read online just days before getting ready to make an appointment for her, that this procedure won't get rid of dk circles or crows feet. Anyone out there have any experience with this Blethoplasty or know anything about it. Thanks Name: Reza Country: usa Comment: Dark circles are genetic in many cases but the following helps if the case is not too bad 1) Sleep at least 8 hours 2) Avoid alcohol and drugs they put a lot of pressure on the liver 3) Avoid stress Buy an eye cream if $ is no objective buy an expensive 1 4) Use a congealer (use it 4 especial occasions only if its 2 expensive 4 u 2 purchase 1) they last a long time For baggy eyes Sleep with a 2 pillows Put a frozen thing such as tea bags under eyes b4 going out (especially an important event) Name: Kat Country: england Comment: i think its simple some people have weaker blood vessels around the eyes and also i was annoyed that they are coming up with cure for acne etc. but not coming up with anything for dc it really annoys me! Name: dimmitty Country: usa Comment: Hi Nik, shop around online first before you pay $$$$$$ i found the product in a 0.5oz tube for $17usa dollars it's called Ocularderma skin therapy gel Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: Nik, I looked that stuff, Ocuderma up on yahoo and the first site that popped up sold it for 17 dollars for the tooth paste size. Guess your going for two bottles though. Unfortunately, I can't try it out cause I'm allergic to vitamin E. Name: Joanne Country: australia Comment: Hey Nik, Good on you for giving the product Ocuderma a try, i have never heard of it, but keep us posted, we all live in hope!!!!! goodluck Name: Nik Country: usa Comment: I am about to spend $145.00 on two bottles of Ocuderma. I really don't have that kind of money ,but I am desperate. Has anyone tried Ocuderm? Does it work? Please reply before I waste my $$ Name: Abner Country: usa Comment: I have been having dark circles under my eyes since i can remember and im 19 now. I IKNOW for a fact that my dark cirlces are the worst . . i mean i have seen ppl with dark circles but not like mine, mine are REALLY big and dark. My dad has dark circles but mine are like 20 times worse than his. Since middle school everyone always asks me if im tired or if i got sleep and it really pisses me off. I have dark cirlces 24\7 no matter wut i do and they make me look so ugly that i dont even know how i got any friends or a gf. I wanted to ask about that concealer. . .any guys here use that and can ppl notice u got it on cuz im a guy and i dont want ppl to know im wearing make up or anything like that. Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: This is what I have come up with...some people are immune to dark circles, that is, some kinda way their bodies are not effected by dc's. I don't know the reason for this, yet some people can eat all the junk food in the world and not suffer from dc's. Some people can get like 2 hours of sleep every night and still not suffer from dc's. Unfortunately, the majority of us suffer from dc's. Why though? Why can't our body get rid of dc's? I try my best to eat as health as I can and get plenty of sleep and take vitamins and exersice yet I haven't noticed any impovement in my dc's. I cant complain though because I have noticed improvements in my skin complexion and in my over-all health after changing my diet and exercising. What is the root cause of dc's? Why do some people have dc's while others don't? Heredity, diet, exercise, and such are not good enough answers for me. I'm not trying to criticize anyone, but I noticed that some people don't eat healthy nor do they exercise yet they don't have dc's. Nor am I jealous, this is just something that I noticed. Is there something going on that we don't know about? I am not going to give up, I still believe that there's an answer and a solution to getting rid of dark circles. I don't know where to look, but lets keep on searching until we find it. Name: mia Country: england Comment: I saw that report and its rubbish! i mean hylexin top 5? That has had the worst reviews ever! And it got excellent rating! Name: SD Country: england Comment: the dermatology report on eye creams list the following as the top 5: 1 - Ocuderm 2 - Z. Bigatti ReStoration Eye Return 3 - Power K Eye Rescue 4 - Hylexin 5 - Everderm-CL In England these products are hard to find I think you have a better chance at ordering them on-line. But if you can't buy on-line try Skin Doctor's circle clear from boots it got top marks in a celeb magazine(But it only came in 24th in the dermotology report). Name: Reza Country: usa Comment: buy a concealer its $20. Name: preti Country: india Comment: i thought they would be the brown ones theey are due to liver i think mine are the purple hereditory ones harder to rid of Name: Beener Country: usa Comment: Read this book: The amazing Liver & Gallbladder Flush by Andreas Moritz - I have learned soooo much from this book. Or go online and type in the title of the book and read an excerpt from the book...you will find answers to questions nobody can seem to answer not even your doctors..... Name: Beener Country: usa Comment: The circles under my eyes are dark brown and it's very hard to conceal them. Check out Hulda Clarks liver/gallbladder flush on line - I want to mention to that I had severe panic attacks because of the toxins - they are getting better the cleaner I become......... Name: preti Country: india Comment: Beener what colour are your circles?? How dark? THANKS Name: Beener Country: usa Comment: I have had dark circles for so many years can't even count them. I found out recently that I have liver stones - causing me to have a congested liver (clogged up from toxins)and toxic blood. I have been doing liver/gallbladder flushes (so far 4 of them - 1 a month)to remove the stones that are clogging my bile ducts and gallbladder - I have had great sucess - have purged many stones - 5 the size of med raisins! Go online type in liver/gallbladder flush for the receipe. My dark circles are fading slowly - I contribute the circles to a toxic liver and toxic system. I truly believe that when my liver is clean the dark circles will disappear. Name: Ben Country: usa Comment: I never said that i just said that wont do much. Thats the problems you guys on here ask about what can i do for this problem and what will work and when you get the answer you dont want to hear you think that people are just tryin to bring you down Name: dima Country: other Comment: Good Ben it seems that we are not going to get rid of this problem ,thank you a Lot Name: Ben Country: usa Comment: Green tea is good for helpinf getting rif of fatigue but other than that it wont do much to dark circles Name: dima Country: other Comment: What about the green tea is it good for this problem? Name: guy Country: usa Comment: hvv u guyz tried Ocuderm....hw does it work....i hv seen gud reviews abt this product Name: guy Country: usa Comment: zz inform us hw it works Name: Ben Country: usa Comment: Anything can be havoc to your skin it just depends who you are Name: usra Country: india Comment: restlayne can be HAVOC to ur skin ........ Name: Ben Country: usa Comment: i have read through alot of articles here and i thought i would give some feedback It seemns that alot of people are lookin for a quick fix to get rid of these dark circles. Creams will not work if you have puffy very dark circles. Creams are for people how have some darkness and just a little puffiness.Really the only thing that has been proven to get rid of these or decrease them enough is to get plastic surgery which does cost a good amount. There is also another option that i heard that is good for people with puffiness and bags this is called restlane injections which good do something the only down part is its not permenant and last for about 4 months. This is a cheaper option its runs abouts 500 to 1000 depending on who does it Anyway i just thpught i would let you guys know about some research i have did Name: jess Country: other Comment: how do i get rid of darkcircals under my eye Name: Panda Country: england Comment: hi i have tried all this health stuff and it doesnt work why? because ppl with dc are assumed to be ill or dying which is not true in most cases its herditory it doesnt mean your unhealthy anyway eating some foods contain antioxidants which do help like 50% but i got bored with that diet i wanted 100% now i go back to it. Also am trying teamine eye complex anyone tried it yet? Name: broken heart Country: india Comment: i agree wth u Jo but i always wish dcs shd never exist with girls..cuz thry hav to face tougher time than men...n i always thought tht cuz i live in 3rd wrld country i dont hav much resources to the latest tech but since ppl frm austr n amerca too complain abt the same prob i think its a universal tragedy..but its unfair with us i must say Name: Jo Country: australia Comment: i give up, is their anything in this world that will ever cure ds, in nice to know i am not alone with this. Name: usra Country: india Comment: yea dima i m doin good..thanks fr askin ..still waitin to see my DCs gone....remem me in ur prayers Name: cardain Country: canada Comment: some peopole on this board have given you the answer to health? your just blind and inconsiderate of the ammount of time some people have contributed to help you. looking through this board today i see some people have written essays on health and fitness and only about 3 thankyous are in this board lol jeez Name: Lonie Country: usa Comment: I too have dark circles and want to get rid of them, but none of the articles helped me. i don't wear makeup so that's out the door. I need a remedy, or does cucumbers really work? Name: dima Country: other Comment: Usra how are you ,what are you up to ?i wish that you are doing fine. Name: usra Country: india Comment: detox does nothin i'v tried it Name: minteen Country: england Comment: hey guys how are you all ? :D any news? wow so many people have left here. even derm? wow. did hope really leave? he's one busy guy thats for sure. Name: aaa Country: india Comment: avalanche = hope Name: avalanche Country: england Comment: my goodness you cannot use NAC unless you have a specific liver problem! do you not know how toxic such ammounts are if not measured by your doctor. you will end up doing more damage than good. bottom line people if your diet is poor your health is poor. if you don't exercise you will be weak and unhealthy. if you stare at a pc 24/7 you will gradually lose your eyesight and the dark circles you have will become a permenent strain. if you allow yourself to be depressed your health will not improve. is that clear enough? so worrying all the time will make you weak the your negative thinking can do serious damage to your insides did you know that? we are spiritual people by god and we have the power to make ourselves healthy. get on with it. all the creams and chemicals contained will compormise your immune system. you know i could have a nervous breakdown in the stupidity of some people in this world. live life to the best. if your depressed . get over it! go running. do something spontanious be your own doctor. go to google and type DETOX METHODS jump up and down on the spot to remove toxins. run up and down the stairs until your winded. go for food intollerence tests. do pranayama. increase your circulation and heal; your organs and you will not have to deal with such circles nor skin problems or anything. mine went by going grain free nut free and soy free and most beans for around 6 months. and the biggest of all sugar free! yes huge saccrifice but i was intollerent to it as i had yeast problems and parasitic infection. but if you starve such bacteria by cutting out what it thrives on and that includes super sweet fruit like banana cocnut mango etc. gorgre on leafy greens loads of onion and garlic but only gorge on it till you feel better. too much of a good thing is not always good. so no grains, no nuts, no soy, no msg aspartame dairy but only if you feel it doesn't give you problems or any other sugar alternative except stevia and xylitol which acts as a prebiotic and helps destroy candida parasites etc. through my experience the root of dark circles especially purple ones were nasal congestion and food intollerences soon gone after going on a strict change in lifestyle. p.s corn is a grain. so anyways yes it's all down to your gastrointestinal system and your immune system. these are what are giving you the circles. a low immune system invites parasites and candida. eating suagr lot's or anything sweet unless safe sweet will feed the bacteria until it finally has it's own power. i honestly do hope that someone takes this to heart. i have to blunt because if im not then im failing you all. peace to all Name: ELOY GAMENO Country: mexico Comment: Hey people, here is a BIG TIP FOR ALL OF U WITH DC's. DONT BUY THE HYLEXIN! I bought it and it didnt do anything, its a rip off!! Ive also tried NAC For about a month. I was taking 3 capsules per day and I didnt saw any improvement! So any of u guys in the same boat??? What should I do next??? Name: Grace Country: malaysia Comment: Maybe can cover the DC with makeup by making smoky eyes Name: friend Country: india Comment: plz tell what do u say Helichrysum oil n rose hip oil in Asia ..any name in Hindi or Urdu?? Name: Diiya Country: india Comment: For Oily Skin Ingredients:Amalaki ,Vibhitaki , Haritaki, Manjishta .. this too good for oily skin .. i have tried it Name: millie Country: usa Comment: how much of each oil? equal parts? Name: anonymous Country: england Comment: dear friends i wud lyk to share a remedy with you which has worked for me: mix in helichrysum oil in rose hip seed oil and apply morning and night to the eye. u will see that ur dc's will go away. this is cheap and effective dont waste time on eye creams that dont work. these oils are aromatheraphy essential oils and are great. please try and share the remedy. i wish u all luck and success. bye Name: Anonymous Country: india Comment: keep using sun screen, it helped me recover 80-85% of DC .I used it for 6 months or more Name: dima Country: other Comment: Usra my friend recommended me a (milk thist) product i will try it its not harmful Name: usra Country: india Comment: no good news yar ...i actually tried detox treatment fr 2 days but all in vain ..gime ur email id if u wish.. Name: dima Country: other Comment: Hello ursa i'm actully sick i have flue i didnt even go out the home and ofcourse my DC are getting darker any good news from your side? Name: usra Country: india Comment: hey dima whr r u ??...busy in weddin prep ..hope u r doin well outthr... Name: Noor Country: dubai Comment: There is only one type of NAC ,it is called n-acetyl-cystine, Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: I forget how to get rid of that sunken dc look, you know what I mean, like under my eyes I have that droopy look. Can somebody remind me how to get rid of that. Thanks a bunch. Name: usra Country: india Comment: hey Noor pls give me the right specification of what kind of NAC u r using n frm whr i can buy this plz be precise Name: Male , man Country: other Comment: i only sleep 8 hrs a day does this contribute to DC? What fruits & vegetables should I eat? please help me i'm 17! Name: sangwon Country: other Comment: i don't like hair cut Name: usra Country: india Comment: i too use creams rich in Vit K but wht i observe is tht sometimes DCs look lighter a bit fade but suddenly whn i prepare myself fr some night party they again start lookin worse in lights ...not got the real solver as yet Name: tejal Country: england Comment: listen i recently started using that garnier regenerating nutrise cream n i c positive results.just go to boots or supermarkets n get a tube, its a long green tube n it says omega 3+6 at the front.u will c that after about a week it will help but i dnt think its forever it will probably come bck because remember the problem is from the inside!!!when u put the cream on dnt rub it all in leave sum on ur skin and u will c that the colour is pinkish and it really hides it well, its not harmfull kike blemish because blemish will hide the dark circles for a few months but the more u keep putin it on the darker they will get.its really good give it a try..... Name: Noor Country: dubai Comment: Bingo every man and woman i am emailing you just to say that i have been taking NAC since december i got good results even my eyes were redness inside but now they are clear and nice Name: hope Country: england Comment: my schedule has grown people and i will not be able to talk on this board anymore. i hope that the advices i have given you over the past year will be of help. everything written is true if you were to follow you would soon be healthy. i'll be available on my email. scroll down to find it. till then people good luck may i wish you all the best. Name: lala Country: england Comment: I'm 14 and I have really dark circles under my eyes. I have tried puttin cotton wool soaked in milk on them but it just makes my skin feel tight. I have lots of sleep, but I'm quite vainy...no concealers work and i just wish they'd go away......i don't want to spend loads of money on 'miracle cures'...any advice??? Name: hope Country: england Comment: gluten can be hidden in packaged foods vegetable stock etc... be careful and you won't get results in a few weeks a month though may show something :) good luck Name: usra Country: india Comment: i wz goin thru the articles below n somebody 'su-lynn' has mentioned here the same prob of DCs n removal with a Detox Treatment its easy but for now i m a bit confused whether go fr it or not??this treatment if fr purifyin lever n NAC is also a lever protectant.. Name: gowri Country: india Comment: i also had tell me how to cure MY ID GOWSS_84@YAHOO.CO.IN Name: dima Country: other Comment: Ursa,i have decided to buy NAC and try it because i cant take it anymore i look bad ,i'm not gonna lose anything if i try it%but what are you talking about ?which juice or detox do you mean?? Name: usra Country: india Comment: dima what do u say? shall v try that detox 2 days treatment of juices,,may be its worth it Name: hope Country: england Comment: be positive negativity will hinder healing. the mind is a powerful tool Name: usra Country: india Comment: dima mine are also brown or at times get black..neither purple nor blue.n i also hav no complaints of lever diseases..i'v given up gluten n dairy with the hope smthg comes out well fr me..but the basic prob is tht they keep spreadin up their volume i mean the space they cover around eyes gettin wider n sunken day by day n that is alarmin...i just dont know whts gona happen...... Name: dima Country: other Comment: Guys are you sure that dark brown circles caused by liver,because mine are brown and a bit yellow and dark brown!but i dont suffer from any diseases i'm healthy and i eat just sallad,sometimes rice and chicken thats it!and i still have them in fact i was born with them but they were extremely red ??so i dont think that i can solve this problem by avoiding food,,i wish somebody help me Name: hope Country: england Comment: hello usra of course no milk as it is the worst dairy of all after cheese if you scroll down to some of my earlier posts usra you will see my email address i cannot post it on the count of the sites rules and regulations Name: usra Country: india Comment: hope can milk be taken during this period?? n Nikita i'v heard the contrast tht taking stuffed pillows help reducin circles..so can any1 be sure whts true? Name: usra Country: india Comment: thanks hope for ur consideration, i'v stopped takin gluten and diary for 3 months period n now i do hope some thng comes out for me, and do give me ur email add Name: hope Country: england Comment: i don't recomend arnica as it may not be your type of medicine. anyones. gluten comes from grains.you need to avoid wheat. oats. rye barley , kamut ,spelt and others. permitable ones are amaranth, millet, quinoa, and corn but this is also a potential allergen. Name: dima Country: other Comment: Hope what kind of food relates to gluten? Name: emma Country: england Comment: dont take arnica it makes them worse just warning people Name: Nikita Country: usa Comment: Hi. I have realized that sleeping without a pillow has helped diminish my dark circles. Maybe its because it improves circulation while i sleep... Name: hope Country: england Comment: also be warned that you will go through healing detox after cutting gluten and dairy from your diet. you will most likely feel dizzy sick tired but this shouldn't last the first month Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey usra put it this way. if the circles are from a food intolerence which they are because you have the rings right? ( this you will not know till you cut out gluten and other potentials for 3 months during which time your circles will most prob vanish and yes even the blue ones people and you will grow more and gain healthy weight and not look tired and of course you shall glow providing your eatinng healthily. once your not blocked anymore ) your body will have a chance to heal from the damage to the small intestine over the years . please be patient. if you do this i promise at least if you don't get rid of your dark circles so quickly you will overall feel great and best of all look it. so please at least give it a try. nac i consider no way near as effective and if your all blocked up inside nac will do little if nothing for you. if anyone wishes to do this add to msn or email me you know my address below. do a web searchj and type dental thats all lol and my email will pop up. good luck people look after yourselves :) Name: usra Country: india Comment: by gluten u mean bread (roti) in which wheat is thr?? n what abt NAC hope?? Name: hope Country: england Comment: but out gluten for 3 months Name: Chika Country: kenya Comment: Sori meant Hyplexin...was kinda tired its abit late here so kinda dosing off lol Name: Chika Country: kenya Comment: Does Hyelexin really work if you have dark circles ? Name: unknown Country: canada Comment: im 13 yrs old and i hae really dark circles iv tryed almost everything i tryed to order hylexin and sudden change but they only sell it in the u.s people always tell me did u get ounched in the eyes or do those dark circles come natuarlly and i get so embarassed i need help!!!PLEASE!!! Name: Sammy Country: england Comment: i have blue circles my mum has them i have eaten healthy and cut out lots of different foods that were common intolerance foods no help i hate these circles loads of makeup around eyes look terrible help! Name: usra Country: india Comment: hi, dima i'v heard abt this NAC just over here n m quite afraid of using it no idea whats it n how shd use it bsically i m a computer engineer nothin to do with chemicals n pharmas i thnk Hope can guide us in this issue..tht how shd v take it n since v both r goin to b married soon is it the right time for takin such suppliments? may be they hav some internal effect which may cause problems further.. plz guide us Thanks Name: hope Country: england Comment: cut out gluten for a while. it's another sure cure. Name: dima Country: other Comment: Ursa i'm also getting married in june and i'm so worried about my DC ,the concelear dosent cover them did someone try NAC and worked out? Name: hope Country: england Comment: hello im sorry you missunderstood im saying that even the heriditary causes can be cured. because you just have to find the trigger thats all . try giving up grains for a while and all dairy of course. it stands for N_acetyl_cysteine and no do not use lasers do think god wants you to do that. you have to be patient when curing your body and lasers are not going to improve your inner health which is what makes circles go away :) Name: usra Country: india Comment: hope i wz just goin thru Q/As n i wz wonderin what is NAC whts its full name what does it stand for..plz gime details n shd i give it a try b4 goin for Lasers?? Name: usra Country: india Comment: hope u wont believe i'v been strugglin frm the last 2 years..hav changed my diet i eat alot of fruit milk my sleep is regular..i apply cucumber, honey, potatoes,branded circles removin creams in a way i'v wasted thousands ..but all in vain ...n i m goin 2 b married in JUNE now i m living in severe depression n my complexion is gettendark cuz of constant depression..NOW i m thnikin to go for LASER TREATMENT but whats the surity...again m gona loose so much money....what shd i do ...i m so desolate... Name: help Country: zambia Comment: how do i get rid of them Name: dima Country: other Comment: Hope do you mean that people who inhertied the DC have no possibilities to cure them?? Name: hope Country: england Comment: there are thousands of solutions usra. but most chose the shortcuts. there are many different triggers of dark circles and it doesn't include herediatry. in fact i know someone who has a really thin eye area and guess what! no bluish circles there. just something to think about people Name: usra Country: india Comment: i read this forum daily ..but no one comes up with a solution..i thnk ppl havin DCs hav no way to find a solution just learn to live with them.... what do u all say? Name: dima Country: other Comment: i typed in google for liver detoxifier and i found a product which called N_acetyl_cysteine and methonine did someone try it before? Name: hope Country: england Comment: hindi join the forum and give your symtoms in ful and a doc will freely advise you :) Name: hindi Country: india Comment: hi hope thanks for your reply the person on the website said she took 4 pills a day of the 30X pills is that dangerous? I dont have a homeopathic doctor Name: hope Country: england Comment: high ammounts of many homeopathic remedies ae toxic which is why you must be advised dosage Name: hindi Country: india Comment: hi type into google is arnica montana toxic and you get lots of results here is one i found: Arnica (Arnica montana) � applied externally to reduce pain from bruising, aches and sprains, and to relieve constipation. Arnica is potentially toxic to the heart and can raise blood pressure if taken internally. Name: hindi Country: india Comment: hi em thanks for the advice hope but isnt too much salt really bad for you health wise and is arnica toxic if you take too much pls thankyou Name: tri Country: england Comment: so will the waatercure work if i use the halen mon salt or will there be any side effects. also just looking around is saxa sea salt from tesco good? Name: Gabriella McDonald Country: australia Comment: hello peeps im new i have had dark circles scince i was three now as i get older they get worse could any 1 suggest a lot of creams, procedures, etc i need all the help i can get Name: hope Country: england Comment: it has some minerals but definetely not 80 etc Name: TRI Country: england Comment: Hope the sea salt is the one you recommended in this message board but now im wondering whether it will work for the watercure or not then. wat do u mean by its good? Name: hope Country: england Comment: real true mineralised sea salt will be moist and greyish. celtic sea salt contains all the minerals white ones you can bet have been refined in some way. i bought the one in waitrose i think your talking about. it's good but it isn't complete, i can tell you dima one if the best liver detoxifiers is beetroot juice and carrots. make this lot and lots and at first you may turn an orangy yellow colour. this a sign your liver is cleanising, not a beta carotene issue. this is easy cheap and so effective. Name: dima Country: other Comment: Hope can you recommend me a liver detoxifier or someone please who had already tried one^ Name: TRI Country: england Comment: Hope i wantd to know wat the difference is between sea salt and cdeltic salt. do they have the same mineral composition? and also jus wondering but the sea salt in waitrose is white and they say that grey sea salt has more minerals will this sea salt work for the water cure n hav u tried it? Name: hope Country: england Comment: aw im sorry um well go to a homeopathic doctor. who will treat you as a whole. people are raving about arnica but you need directions for a doctor before you take such potencies Name: Deep Purple/Blue Country: india Comment: I have deep purple/blue circles under my eyes. Hope you posted ( purple ones are to do with sinuses and lack of circulation to that area )talk to your mum about sinus treatment / tests etc. I dont have a mum so tell me what to do. Also whats arnica and how can it help Name: Dave Country: usa Comment: Hey everyone i am goin to a cosmetic dermatologistthat specilizes in dark circles wit laser.Some derms will tell you that laser surgery wont work if they dont know what their doin with that field of removal, and some will just say it wont help casue of the way your skin is. Well anyway i will let you all know what happens Name: amma Country: england Comment: yeah but im young no intercourse yet got dese horrible circles Name: hope Country: england Comment: wait till you've grown up before intercourse trust me it's worth it. if you wait you will grow up more beuatiful and it will have been worth the wait. if you must have *** . then do it rarely and never masturbate. it is self abuse to your body. dima your dark circles may be related to your liver. so i would go to your local pharmasist and ask for a liver cleansing supplement. also head into your local chinese medicine shop and ask there advice. but still if you would like to that is... follow what i said previously. sorry usra there is no one remedy not to benefit the health anyway. Name: dima Country: other Comment: Hope i have extremely bad mixture of different shade of brown circles very awful color, and my skin is fair everybody thinks that i'm sick by the way thx for caring Name: amma Country: england Comment: whats the point of getting rid of dark circles to be better looking if you cant have loads of intercourse lol! Name: usra Country: india Comment: hey guys i m new here but havin read this article m feelin as if its not only i tht is sufferin frm this terrible prob...anyways pls somebody come up with a solution,,,,its enuff of discussions Name: hope Country: england Comment: sorry guys the lecture starts at the bottom rather the top lol Name: hope Country: england Comment: just because we devlop early. but what we fail to realise is using your s**ual energies before your body has passed the stage of puberty is the cause of growth hindering and the cause of everything down to symptoms of course junk food personal hygiene and lifestyle itself may be the trigger. to be truly healthy one should wait till they have finished growing naturally before you start usuing your energies. if any of you people can follow this a few months you will be telling me omg ive grown more i thought i was done" my eyebrows are less thick weird. and other things you cannot imagine till you see. so if anyone is interested to reach higher health quicker then email me you know my address. good luck people :) Name: hope Country: england Comment: but your overall health will spiral. but eating healthily is very important. do not let junk food rule your life. next time you see it look real close and think is this beauty food or beast and what i have found is that we have intercourse too early. Name: hope Country: england Comment: many are gonna be like omg i can't do that ill die haha well all i say to that is your body needs a vacation to you know. you also do not have to eat everyday. if you have no appetite but are bored please do not eat. just fast until it returns. if this goes on for more than a day then your body has decided to take a break and let other parts heal. liver kidneys etc which are related to dark circles. so have a think people. our body is a system. if you want it to be beautiful. look after it simple as that. listen to it . and give it a break once in a while. on experimentation people have benefited greatly from celibacy. if you chose to do this. no sexual thoughts must be in your mind if you get this and are practising celibacy. you will not yield the benefits. if however you are determined to try it and free your thoughts of lust yet still suffer excitement. do not worry. it's only if it happens all the time. after a few months of this with pranayama you will notice your glowing. your eyes are becoming brighter, you feel calm and free to think of other activities. some the dark circles may diminish quicker than others. Name: hope Country: england Comment: then cut back on the spices they are very strong and will make you think lustful thoughts which helps your health in no way. many teenagers have thought it fun to lose their virginity at such a young age and then after they are left with the burden of lust and the urge to masturbate frequently of course have excessive intercourse. what this evenutually does is uses up minerals your body needs to heal and shatters the nervous system and makes you tired depressed and irratable and the result is acne dark circles sallow complexion which are are also sunken hollow looking now not many will be able to grasp this as the 21st century has been blinded by science. many of you are young like me and can recover quickly say 6 months. try and get away from all sexual thoughts lust masturbation for a long while. Name: hope Country: england Comment: dima are you are you always thinking before you fall asleep this will give circles do you exercise or do pranayama very important to have high oxygen to fill out hollow places like under the eyes. circulation is the key dima which colour are your circles please? you may just need a detox that's all. cut out any junk food and many starches carbs which may feed parasites or candida you may be suffering with. eat lot's of onion and garlic however if you feel the need to masturbate sexual tension Name: dima Country: other Comment: Hope,i eat healthy food which include vegetables &fruits ,i dont drink coffee or smoke ,i drink a lot of water i listen to my mom and dad ,i do my homeworks ,i sleep early and ya whatever my DC are horrible please give us useful remedies Name: usra Country: india Comment: can any body tell me what is this "cayenne" what do v call it in hindi ....whr shd i find it? Name: hindi Country: india Comment: hi um i read arnica is toxic Name: hope Country: england Comment: laserd are risky i mean just the name will put nearly anyone off. go to the abchomeoptahy website and go to the forum and search for dark circles there is lot's of info there including arncia Name: millie Country: usa Comment: he said that people will try to sell it to you, but it is unproven to work or last. and also that it is very aggressive, and he would not perform it on his family. he also said there is no cream you can buy to fix it. so i am back to healing from within. (but pleas keep us posted on the ARNICA). i thought that i drank lots of water before, but now i REALLY drink lots of water, like 2 gaglons a day. and i really cut back on coffee. i would still not go out without concealer, but i have noticed a clear difference. at least when i put on concealer i can look normal, whereas before no amount of makeup could disgiuse the dead, ugly, hideous monster look. Name: millie Country: usa Comment: hi everyone. talked to my dermatologist and he said that LASER SURGERY WILL NOT WORK. Name: millie Country: usa Comment: hi everyone. talked to my dermatologist and he said that LASER SURGERY WILL NOT WORK. Name: hope Country: england Comment: sorry i typed too fast nux vomica :D . homeopathy to some people is treated via symptoms. but true homeopathy works to heal the netire body and you find a remedy which best matches your whole constitution. but yes arnica is great so i have noticed. but still look into talking to a homeopathic doctor. to heal your mind body and spirit. healing one symptom doesn't change you for the better. the whole body must be made over. and you must talk to a homeo doctor to find out your type of medicine. sorry if im waffling right now but i just thought id mention this. Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey i actually havn't but i have heard nothing but positive news with arnica :D right now i have started nux movica and later nat muriaticum Name: Tasha Country: england Comment: hope have you tried this arnica X30? Name: hope Country: england Comment: i personally eat naither fish or meat but fish is much better than meat. we are not chemically designed for meat or fish really but we take fish easier. Name: hope Country: england Comment: stop junk food peremenently eat only fruits veggies nuts seeds avoid dairy if possible you may have intollerence. if you find your always having to blow your nose or sneeze you have potential allergens. eat lot's of greens and ild spices ( purple ones are to do with sinuses and lack of circulation to that area ) talk to your mum about sinus treatment / tests etc good luck :) and for the other person with 1995 circles. write more deatils . daily diet lifestyle etc. :) Name: Purple Country: canada Comment: Hi im only 11 and i have really dark circles kinda purply-blue. Wut can i do to get rid of them plzz help i just got contacts and they show alot more then when i had glasses to hide them. PLEASE HELPPP!!! Name: Haider Country: other Comment: hi, I have dark circles arround my eyes since 1995, some times they reduce but not much and sometimes they appear badly. my date of birth is 1979.please someone help me out. Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey pinki perhaps maybe a dairy intollerence? please describe the type of dark circles that plaque him being in size duration and colour. and when worse. Name: me Country: england Comment: I've always had really dark circles, does anyone have any experience with laser surgery? maryam_nylander@yahoo.se Name: pinki Country: usa Comment: hi,my name is pinki.i am married.i am from u.s.a. my husband hasa a dark circles problems..i don't know what i do??? anybody give me a tips pls help me.his highr5 something weight180 pound and he drinks milk every day that's why i don't understand why he has a dark circles plz help me .... Name: hope Country: england Comment: everyone has a chance. even the blue sufferes ( nasal congestion ) kidneys etc . but yes you have a good chance being an austrailian girl you must drink lot's of water . you may think you are doing so on the count of the heat. but you must go over the feeling of being thirsty :) no junk food at least till june. at all ! if you wish to be rid.lot;s fo fruit and vegetables non stop and don't eat after 7 o clock if possible. the quicker you digest the faster the dark circles will fade Name: chocolate Country: australia Comment: Hope do you mean people that have brown circles as a chocolate have a chance to solve this problem? Name: hope Country: england Comment: hello brown circles are liver. so lot's of green leafy veg. turmeric cinnamon licorice um barberry / artichoke etc. go to your parmacy and by a cleaning herbal tablet . milk thistle example but usually you can a load of different herbs in one . good luck Name: Karen Country: canada Comment: Chocolate... you can only rescue yourself, being on this website is a step. Skim through every ones comments below, follow my advise about exercise, and a herbalist you can find in the phone book. Just be sure you pick a repudable one. Herbalists are good for perscribing NATURAL REMEDIES for common problems like dark circles, but may not always be the cure. There could be underlying reasons that may not be so obvious in dark circles. I was just kidding about masterbation... it is probably a good thing considering it increases blood flow. Name: chocolate Country: australia Comment: Karen,my graduation party is not that soon its in june,but its too soon for my DC to be vanished ,,,what herblist are you talking about ?i'm just 17 i dont somke , drink coffee or masterbate,i'm clean CLEAN beleive me i just need someone to rescue me ,please,i detest Chocolate i like vanilla vanilla Name: Karen Country: canada Comment: Chocolate...GRADUATION YOU SAY?! Well i'm assuming you have a very short amount of time to make sure you are absolutly gorgeous! Well let's think...you don't want to look into your past and rehashing any negative emotions just before the big day!...You certainly could talk to a herbalist, but any visable changes may occur AFTER you want them to!... so in that short amount of time, refrain from masterbating ( that seems to work for some people ) Drink lots of water! Excercise for adleast half hour everyday, cut back on cigarettes, coffee, alcohol, and give yourself a good pampering the day before! Goodluck. Name: chocolate Country: australia Comment: hallooo,everyone calls me a chocolate because of my dark brown dark circles ,,please help me my graduation party is coming soon and i wanna look nice please please HELP Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey guys. im currently going to start taking homeopathic medicine designed at the trauma of my parents divorce. if you have dark circles notice if you have any other problems . like tons on your mind familly friends deaths etc all these suppressed memories i have been told are is whats making us shy restless and aware of our flaws. but once you let go of these things you will heal everywhere. so my final research is dark circles are just a symptom of a memory we cannot erase so we must really look into our lives rather than just the circles because it is something in our lives that had done this. and please no more talk of heriditary because it's just a disease you need to cure. if you go to the abchomeopathy website and in the search engine of the forum type dark circles you will see that arnica 30x got rid of someones in less than week and they are blue ones so theres hope and i stick to hope and i will keep you informed on my treatment. i have big belief in homeopathic medicine. because it desgined to help your mind along with symtpoms but it is really all to do with the mind and how you view things etc. :) good day Name: karen Country: canada Comment: HOPE...Much better advice! MILLIE, your welcome, Good luck. HIDDEN BOOK...Go bug some other website! Name: Dave Country: usa Comment: Hiddenbook what are you talking about.When you look tired and you you look in a mirror they will be on your mind.Its not like havin dark circles is gonna kill you, but still when you look tired people look at you different. Name: hiddenbook Country: other Comment: for every lie theres a betray and for every so called disease this can never exist if you find the roots and go back to life dark circles will not be on your mind only the energy to try and save anothers life will be the only thing on your mind. Name: hope Country: england Comment: try a homeopathic doctor Name: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Country: england Comment: can anyone tell me the full watercure recipe as i am from england and dont understand the quart part of the recipe.plz provoide full recipe Name: millie Country: usa Comment: hey karen. thanks. have been thinking of an herbalist. just so expensive. i want to be sure i go to a good one. gotta be better than surgery... Name: Sadie Country: england Comment: hey peeps. not posted here 4 ages so i thought i would. been tryin vitamin e on my eyes for a month now and u know wat...i defo see a small improvement!!!! ive also been drinking gallons of water aswell, so my skins really glowing.Im soooo pleased.loadz of people have been commenting that i look really refreshed...YAY!it beats being told that i look really tired,even though ive had 12 hours sleep!.im going to continue with it and ill let u guys know of any more change. cya x Name: joanne Country: england Comment: Hi i really want to try laser surgery for my dc becuase i dont think this eating healthy works unless you have really bad diet anyways does anyone have any info on laser surgery i have had dc since little and if you have candida then the major symtom you have is thrush because the ohter symtoms are the type that can be down to anything when i read about candida it said it is very unlikely to have it unless you have been on antibiotics and if like me you have had it since being a baby well you cant inherit it! Name: karen Country: canada Comment: OH MY GOD KARA! I think you just told yourself your own problem and how to fix it!!! You should not have stress at 13! Dump the boyfriend if you have to, Eat healthy, and for gods sake, check out any website that includes CANDIDA! especially if you have been on the birth control pill, or been on antibiotics or have used an inhailer! CANDIDA is an overgrowth of yeast in your system that can cause symptoms... yes symptoms such as ASTHMA, ALLERGIES,DARK CIRCLES, FATIGUE, MOODINESS, BAD PMS, EXEMA, the list goes on. This is actually for everyone to skim through and be sure this isn't the problem. Name: Kara Country: usa Comment: *sigh* Okay, here we go again. Im 13 and already have two deep lines in a "u" shape under my eyes. Ive had them since I was a baby nad they arent always very dark but still visible due to shadowsfrom my forehead and ecetera. The funny thing is I cant really find out what is causing them because I am guilty to most of the obvious reasons I should have them. Possible Reasons: 1. hereditary (grandpa smokes) 2. pale (yes very) 3. not much excersize (no Im one of those kids that your children pick on and laugh at, thus, I dont get out much) :P BLEH lol 4. I have exzema/psoariasis (skin condition) Lots of sources pointed out that this could be a cause. 5. Allergies (pollen, dander, dust ex.) 6. asthema ( I have had awful asthema my entire life) 7. stress-worse than you could emagine. OKAY...I didnt show you that list to make you feel sorry for me I just need some help finding out what remedie to use first! HELP P.S. Im sick of people telling me I look sick or tired, and they never say it in a nice way either. Most of all IM SICK of the guidance teacher calling my parents and asking them if Im on drugs. WHICH IM NOT 13!!! years old and already Pi$$ed Off to the point of combustion!!! >_< Name: karen Country: canada Comment: MILLIE, yes more fruits and veggies! I also found out that your liver is connected to your eyes. Your body is like a map... there are chinese herbalists that can look at you on the outside, and tell you exactly what is going on in the INSIDE! That is very good for nutrients people may be lacking and they tell you what foods to eat more of. I recently found out that my son has a food sensitivity to GLUTEN... unrelated but the point is that we all have to take care of our bodies to be as beautiful as WE ALL CAN BE! Mentally and physically. Hope i helped? Name: moon Country: usa Comment: go to eyecomplex website. Name: millie Country: usa Comment: hi dave, i have never heard of kinerase, but please let us know if you try it and it works. i spoke to my dermatologist, who indicated that no creme works. he suggested the laser surgery, and referred me to another derm. who does that technique. i havent met with him yet, so i dont know whether it is permanent or temporary. also, karen-- what is the rabbit kindove diet? i have started an organic diet consisting of a lot of raw fruits and veggies and lean protein. is it anything similar to this? Name: dave Country: usa Comment: has anyone heard of the cream kinerase its suppposed to reduce dark circles if you did and you tried it tell me if it works? Name: Hey Country: usa Comment: Masturbation and dark circles!!! Amazing Name: anne Country: england Comment: hi Noremedi let us know how it goes Name: monica Country: usa Comment: OMG IM close 2 14 years old andd i have had DARK UNDER EYE CIRCLES aka BAGS .. foreverrrrr my dad smokes so obvisouly itz heredity.. BUT STLL U CAN COVER UP BAGS EVEN IF ITZ HEREDITY !!!!! cuz they are on ur face.. and plus the conclears dat actually do dat cost $100 and are impossible to FIND !!! IF ANy1 CAN HELP ME PLZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ANSWER Name: karen Country: canada Comment: DAVE from INDIA, yes i am 26, and have every conceler eye makeup known to man. Nothing works. I have noticed a significant change when drinking 8-9 pints of water a day, no smoking, no drinking, rabbit kindove diet, with limited amount of stress in your life. If everyone's dark circles TRULY bother them... try my secrets. Name: katt Country: england Comment: hi, i'm only 10 but i have serious dark circles underneath my eyes so im going sleep now as early as i can but i think i could stop them completly if i knew exacally what caused them? u no anything? thx xxx Name: dave Country: india Comment: i meant to say cant see them in the last part my fault Name: dave Country: usa Comment: I was just wondering how dark is everyones dark circles are they dark enough that if you put make up on you can still see them or are they dark but not that dark if you put makeup on you can see them Name: mel Country: canada Comment: K guys I have dark circles under my eyes and im 17 years old..every day people ask me "get enough sleep last night" or some other comment..if ANYONE knows of something to get rid of these let me know!! Name: Livi Country: usa Comment: I look like a damn ghost. I look in the mirror and i cant stand to look any longer. I'm 16 years old and i Just started thinking i should do something about these Damn mother F*ckers. I've had them since i was 11 i tried some cremes before and cold compresses. I try to keep my body healthy. Once i tried to get rid of them by putting cotton balls in milk and put them one my eyes for 30 mins. I thought i was the only one with these problems. My mom tells me its because i need more sleep, but its not helping and i know people who barley ever sleep and they dont have these Dark circles. I think it could be becausre i have very thin skin. i cant even wear a shot sleeve shirt my arms are all green because of my veins. What do i do about these Dark purle cicles. Name: Noremedi Country: usa Comment: Hello every1 I just find out about a laser treament that clear the DC arround eyes, but Im not sure that works for ever, ask your doctor to see if its just temp. or perm, I saw it on discovery health program, that a girl did't before her wedding, it was incredible how she look before and after that, I will consult my doctor about it, so I hope it will be an answer for it. BYE AND GOOD LUCK FOR US. Name: firdous Country: other Comment: i have a dark circle problem i do every thing now what i do please tell me Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey you can also do it while sitting aswell :D also squeeze your butt loads of times a day aswell that one works a treat :) Name: Comet Country: other Comment: good for :):) Name: Comet Country: other Comment: What you describe Hope is also a different way of doing situps praticed by people who have problems with their necks. Never heard that it is food for digestion but hey many you're right.. The NAC has not done anything to my DC yet by the way. Name: hope Country: england Comment: ok guys i have something so cool for you lot to try. you know how the colon has old fecal matter stuck to the walls etc. ok me and some friends were practising an elephant stomoch movemement lool and to my astonishment i had to go toilet almost instantly. but this is where it gets good so much stuff came out. not to mention it works the abs and will make you lose tons of weight. but most of all improved digestion = better if not not gone dark circles. so heres the method think of it as fun :D lay down on your back and literally starts moving your stomoch in as far as you can and out and on and on until you feel achey like you'v been working out. and trust me wow it has made my digestion so much better. i hope you find this funny but most of all effective. :D Name: Nina Country: india Comment: urgh!!!!!! Thats gross! Name: dave Country: usa Comment: thanks for your input have you done this thing you are suggesting on curezone? And has it helped at all? Name: dave Country: usa Comment: thanks for your input have you done this thing you are suggesting on curezone? And has it helped at all? Name: hope Country: england Comment: dave do you find yourself stressed out over stuff? if so dark circles. are your ears redder than your face? is so exuasted adrenals = dark circles. are you peeing continouslly when you drink lot's if so exausted kidneys = dark circles. yoga is great. but meditation and visualization is magical! you can do anything. try uropathy and don't be grossed out it's your own fluids go to curezone and find the urine forum. Lastly is your digestion good if not yup you guessed it dark circles but also an array of other problems. i hope this helps. p.s hereiditary is cureable because you may cure the diesease your ancestors actually suffered with Name: dave Country: usa Comment: is there anything that can anyone can recommend to me that actually can help I am 18 and i got these stupid dark circles i eat healthy i work out i tried about four creams nothing worked. Im to young to get surgery to correct this problem So if anyone can help me i would be grateful Name: rony Country: other Comment: guys can someone recommend me a good concelear??? please Name: remy1 Country: england Comment: hi, im new here and can completely relate to all whats being discussed. im 17 and have dc.my dc are caused by thin skin no mater what i do nothing seems to work, ive been using circleclear 4 ages with little improvement, have u guys heard of oxylight.ive looked it up and im very interested since its not a creme but a device that gives off a high frequency current, an orange red light therapy, and purified enriched oxygen. it sounds really good but so does everything. im concidering dishing out 70 quid for it. has any 1 used it and got reults plze reply. for others who r interested go to jellenproducts Name: remy Country: england Comment: hi, im new here and can completely relate to all whats being discussed. im 17 and have dc.my dc are caused by thin skin no mater what i do nothing seems to work, ive been using circleclear 4 ages with little improvement, have u guys heard of oxylight.ive looked it up and im very interested since its not a creme but a device that gives off a high frequency current, an orange red light therapy, and purified enriched oxygen. it sounds really good but so does everything. im concidering dishing out 70 quid for it. has any 1 used it and got reults plze reply.... for others who r interested go to jellenproducts Name: remy Country: england Comment: hi, im new here and can completely relate to all whats being discussed. im 17 and have dc.my dc are caused by thin skin no mater what i do nothing seems to work, ive been using circleclear 4 ages with little improvement, have u guys heard of oxylight.ive looked it up and im very interested since its not a creme but a device that gives off a high frequency current, an orange red light therapy, and purified enriched oxygen. it sounds really good but so does everything. im concidering dishing out 70 quid for it. has any 1 used it and got reults plze reply.... for others who r interested go to jellenproducts Name: remy Country: england Comment: hi evry1 Name: Comet Country: other Comment: Trying out NAC now.. I have DC like my mother and grandfather and some other familiy. Will keep you updated. By the way my mother stopped smoking 3 years ago and her DC has not been any better. She is also a very very healthy woman so I belive there must be another reason for these DCs Name: Sara Country: middleeast Comment: I am very sorry I mean Karen Name: Sara Country: middleeast Comment: hi millie i read it is very good for many things like acne and it is make you young if you 100 years old it can make u like 20 years old. I am soory millie my English bad. Name: millie Country: usa Comment: prana-what? Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey guys how can you expect something man made and not natural in nature to take away your dark circles? you will not get rid of dark circles until you are clean and your oxygen level is high for that i say practise pranayama Name: millie Country: usa Comment: dont know what the smell was, but it was funky. and seemed to be related to eating fish and eggs. would flare up after i ate them. read that some people have a deficiency in zinc that can interfere with breaking down certain foods. as long as i take enough zinc it is fine. really weird. anyway, back to the CIRCLES. i think you may be on to something, karen. i am wondering if candida is related to mine. i certainly know they are way worse after i carb loaded on junk food like i just did over the christmas holiday. i just started a raw food diet 3 days ago. will keep everyone posted on the progess. gotta get rid of these darn things before i go crazy. Name: Karen Country: canada Comment: Sara hun... you have to help us all here! Could you please be a little more specific? Name: Sara Country: middleeast Comment: Tina if you see this words or any one I am from Saudi Arabia and can not found neem.is a cinnamon can help me . Name: Zeinab Country: other Comment: Hello is there any one find? & whe helichrysum essential oil which Sheila (usa)talk aboutre? please Name: Karen...again Country: canada Comment: Smell?...you mean that smell of unwashed hair that you get when you haven't bathed? Well I have recently noticed that smell even though i have scrubbed and scrubbed with AVEDA shampoo and conditioner!!! I recently took up CANDIDA, and have been studying the effects of eating crap and the side affects that accompany it. Not sure if that is my problem, but i do suffer from allergies and developed asthma? I'm sure those DAMN CIRCLES have something to do with it! Name: millie Country: usa Comment: someone wrote "i smell". dont know how much this has to do with dark cirlces. but i think i might be able to help. try taking zinc. i had some funky odor going on, and then i read about zinc in a natural remedies book. it really helps. Name: cntstandcircles! Country: usa Comment: omg! i cant stand these stupid circles n e more! my mom says its from sleep but all my frnds go 2 bed at 2:00 in the morning n i g2 bed at like 8:30-9:00 and they have none and mine are so dark that i wnt look in the mirror! I HATE HAVING CIRCLES! IF I DIDNT HAVE CIRCLES ID B GORGEOUS!LOL JK PLLLLLLZ HELP ME!I LOOK LIKE A RACOON! Name: Sadie Country: england Comment: In response to H8circles,i kno dat us girls are can cover our circles with concealer but wat stops u guys from doing it.as lomg as u dont pile it on, no one will notice u got it on.jst make sure u get one dat matches ur skin tone.i totally agree about having a tan making them less noticeable,i guess it makes people look more healthy.im olive skinned so I tan easily which is great. Happy new year 2 every1. my new year resolution is find a remedy dat gets rid of these damn circles 4 gud!!!! Name: Millie Country: usa Comment: Sarah, i have the same bag problem. as if the dark circles arent enough. the bags exaggerate them. i would love any suggestions to get rid of them. i am tired of looking 40. also, from what i understand NAC doesnt work for people with purple circles. is this true? 'cause if there is a chance that it will really work i will gladly try it. does anyone have a clear answer on it? and have not tried the st.ives circle diminisher, but i will be the guinea pig. will probably take some time, but i will keep you all posted. dont know about the teamine, but i have an appt with a dermatologist soon; and i will ask him about it. Name: fairy Country: england Comment: Can anyone tell me if I can purchase Teamine under eye cream in the UK? If so where? I can't bare the "death Look" any longer! Please help!!! Name: karen Country: canada Comment: I love this computer, somehow i feel relieved that so many others have the same issues with the death look! Please more comments and remedies! Name: H8Circles Country: usa Comment: Ive never posted here but been reading the site for a few weeks now and have a few comments. One is sadie im a 23 year old male with purple cirlces under my eyes and i cannot walk around with concealer on :). Ive been useing a firming creme from dermae that has helped a bit. Mine where caused by drug and alchohol abuse and i think the damage ive done is beyond repair. I work out like a mad man now dont eat as healthy as id like but even when i stick to a strick diet,run 2 miles a day, hit the gym for some serious weight lifting 5/6 days a week i see results but they never fully go away. Its winter time right now so they look worse since im pale but one thing that helped me some was tanning int he summer when i was tan the purpleness of the undereye was less visible but probably doing more damage to my body in the long run laying out every other day for a hour. One thing i noticed is it did tighten the skin when i layed out. What im getting to is people need to post what products have helped then we all know working out and eating right will help we wouldnt be on this website if it was that easy. We are all here because we need something else we want to know what product to use if there is one. The skin under my eyes is weak and thin i can feel it im going to order some vitamin K creme and switch off useing it with this dermae firming creme with ginseng and ester-C in it hoping it will help. Anyways keep posting people with this many of us suffering from the same problem someone is bound to find a cure for these bastards. Until then ill keep telling people im a member of a elite underground fight club! Name: jenith Country: usa Comment: i have dark circles under my eyes, and i wanna get rid of it ones and for all, could anybody plz give me a suggestion how can i do that Name: Sadie Country: england Comment: Oh i forgot to say.im still using vitamin e on my eyes, but not seen any improvement.nothings gonna work Name: Sadie Country: england Comment: I think we should all face the fact that they will never go away.just spend your money investing in a good concealer.I use benefits lyin eyes. it works like a dream, u cant tell that i have them. Name: tya Country: india Comment: One time forever. Do NAC vitamins realy work? How do they work? On purple or on the brown DC's? PLEASE TELL US EVERYBODY, TO WHOM HAS NAC VITAMINS HELP? THANK YOU Name: gru Country: india Comment: WOR these are detox symptoms u will be fine after 2 weeks. Name: dana Country: middleeast Comment: anyone could recommend us about any herbs or medicine that might be helpful to clean up our (liver or kidney)?? Name: Zeinab Country: other Comment: can you think the helichrysum essential oil in the body shop? Name: Simone Country: australia Comment: WOR did you have the brown or purple type of dc? Name: hickchick Country: usa Comment: ok, the only advice i can give is yes, raw potaoes put in the fridge, peel a bit off for each eye w/ a potatoe peeler, apply to eyes immediately so its still cold for 15 minutes...it helps ur eyes alot! Hope this helps u guys, i enjoyed reading ur responses Name: WOR Country: usa Comment: Ok...so, it's been yonks since I've written anything here. Some interesting things have happened. First, I got SICK as a dog from the NAC. You're supposed to take it on an empty stomach, which I did. For 2 days in a row, I became violently ill about 20 minutes after I took it. Did some internet research and found out that nausea and vomiting are side effects of excessive NAC use. I was taking 1500 at a pop. So, be warned!!! I decided not to take any until after the New Year, and will just take 600 per day. I've been working so much I've had no time to work out, been eating absolute CR*P and let me tell you...it shows. Before I was working so much (holiday related), I was doing a lot of cardio at the gym...eating cleanly, taking vitamin c, drinking lots of water and my DCs were soooooooo much better that I didn't need barely any concealer. I can't wait to get back to taking care of myself. Please don't give up. I really think that it makes a HUGE difference when you do all you should do to fix them. I am nervous about going back to taking NAC, but figure that my issues were with taking soooo much of it at one time. Happy New Year to us all!!! Name: ABC Country: other Comment: We wish a merry christmas and a happy new year ,we hope for you the best, Name: bum Country: japan Comment: frek sa cul to ra ftyuinhg salesf dres circls der eysr Name: mutiat Country: hongkong Comment: i smell Name: sarah Country: england Comment: i have really bad bags under my eyes ive tried everything but they havnt still gone. Name: isha Country: india Comment: i want to die Name: tired eyes Country: usa Comment: hye Ruben i know alot of people that have tried hylexin and only a few had minor results. I also have tried hylexin it didnt do nothing, and it cost a good amount If you were to get a eye cream i would get teamine alot of people have had good results with that.Also remember just usin and eye cream is not gone to rid of the problem but also livin healthy will Name: ruben Country: usa Comment: hello my name is ruben, and i have dark cirles around my eyes and i hate it, ive been hearing about a new product called Hylexin, iam gonna try it i hope it helps, iam so tired of having this problem i use to be very confident but know i feel like when i talk to someone that the cirles around my eyes bother them any suggestions to help or has anyone used Hylexin Name: tri Country: india Comment: has NAC worked for anybody? and at wat dosage plz reply quickly Name: Sadie Country: england Comment: Has ne1 tried st ives dark circle diminisher? sum ppl hav said that its worked 4 them. my dark circles are really bad, im trying out vitamin e oil. its only been a few days so ive not seen any improvement. Name: snow white Country: dubai Comment: Hi Katie,i have brown DC ,but i dont have any kind of deficient problem with my kidney or liver,when i was around 7 years my DC were pink or red but well logically i'm growing,hence my horrible DC are growing also and turnig brown ,,,,i dont like concealer it makes the DC look gray,,, Name: Katie Country: canada Comment: oh by the way if it was a liver or kidney problem causing the blue ones then why do very unhealthy ppl have no dc at all? im the healthiest person i know i guess we all have to wait for a miracle cream or surgical procedure and i think we are getting closer Name: Katie Country: canada Comment: hi yes the problem is kidneys or liver but that is if you have the brown dark circles these are classic symptoms of liver problems im afraid the blue ones are not that easy to get rid of that is why neem, NAC and other detoxers wont get rid of the blue ones SORRY! Name: Sadie Country: england Comment: I read that vitamin e is gud 4 dark circles. Im gunna try it out. I got capsules and im gunna burst them and rub the liquid on my eyes morning and evening. im gunna c if they reduce them. ill let u guys knw how i get on. i fink it will tek a few weeks 4 me 2 notice any difference. oh and i also heard dat rubbing almond oil on them is gud 2,mayb sum1 cud try that out? do it mornin and evening if u can and let us knw how u get on. Millie,I did a detox a while back-it dint help my DC'S, but it made my skin nice and clear. Name: hope Country: england Comment: true happiness keeps you alive and well. :) if you feel you are getting stressed sometimes go for a run. or do a sky dive ok maybe not lol. unless your brave enough then you are welcome to Name: hope Country: england Comment: hello in excess im afraid it is bad. whether you wish to believe it or not. but again im just giving options im not saying go celibut otherwise you will never reach true health. im just giving my words. it's not arguing material it's either yes ill give it a go or no ill try something else thankyou :) and finally masturbation is not the cause of dark circles. but it is the cause of organ and nervous and kidney exaustion. which guess what contributes to them. if you don't do it often then it's fine it's when you do it to excess you lose vital minerals everything to weakening digestion and your immune system. anyway i have done my research look into it. im young yet i realise how depressing sexual thoughts and masturbation is. for me i am glad to have stopped. it is freedom in my oppinion and when you stop you realise just how addictive it really was. do you really want that controlling you? anyway i do what i feel like. and im glad to share. you do not have to listen to me haha im just a human like you i don't command you :) byee Name: beauty therapist/herbal practitioner Country: england Comment: Can i just say.. get a grip on yourself Hope! 'masturbation does not cause under eye dark circles!'This is the most ridiculous assumption i have ever heard in my entire life.You obviously concocted that notion yourself.Trust me,if a doctor disagrees with this it must be ridiculous, and a doctor you are not.Are you seriously trying to imply that a natural human instinct should have a negative impact on the body?c'mon..if anything, masturbation would increase blood flow, therefore improving circulation. join a nunnery because that is where you belong!As for me, im going to enjoy it while it lasts.Some people simply have them due to skin under the eyes being thinner.This shows as dark shadows as a result of the blood vessels underneath. It can also be caused by a toxic liver,in other words an unhealthy lifestyle or otherwise, or it can be directly related to the kidneys.Detoxing is the way to go,raspberry tea to flush the kidneys.Or a herbal formula called Essiac, which is a really powerful antioxidant.An amazing con cealor for disguising shadows under the eyes is Yves Saint Lauren radiant touch.i use it and its magic. plenty of juicing is a great way of getting rid of toxins.white tea is also fantastic as it has even more antioxidants than green tea.flor essence is also fantastic detox. good luck everyone. Name: hope Country: england Comment: sorry i meant in excess heres a webpage for you all. well it won't let me actually so go to google and type in brahmacharya and you will see the benefit's of preserving your sexual fluids. Name: hope Country: england Comment: hello everyone that's fine aha :) just try not to do it excess it exuasts the organs and nervous system and also eventually does damage if done for a long time Name: aha Country: india Comment: hope i cannot be celibate i am married Name: aha Country: india Comment: hello hope i am wondering to you why would one want to be celibate as when they do start again the circles come back? Name: Alla Country: india Comment: hi ppl dont give up on getting rid of the hereditory ones although i dont beleive that these ones are an sign that you health is bad but i think there is a cure out there Name: millie Country: usa Comment: do any of you guys suffer from candida issues?? i am thinking maybe there is some connection? Name: millie Country: usa Comment: anyone ou there try a raw food diet, or maybe a good cleansing program? i am desperate. will try anything. and i am sure my husband would suport me in anything but celibacy. :) Name: millie Country: usa Comment: hey snow white. i totally empathise with you, and sadie (i think). it is sooo sad. lately i have started eating a little junk (ok, i drink lots of coffee) but i exercise, dont smoke and eat tons of veggies and i still look horrible. i even bought hylexin. a joke. i want to cry; these circles are horrible. my eyes used to be my best asset, and now they are my worst. surely there has to be a solution out there somewhere. Name: LL Country: usa Comment: where can I buy Vitamin A and K??? drug store? over the counter?? I'm just about to turn 35 and my circles have gotten WORSE as I get older, not to mention the newly added stress in my life... HELP.... no other under eye creams work.. I thought I might try Vitamin A and K... Name: snow white Country: dubai Comment: Okay! we got the message that we need to drink a lot of water(ya whatevere)& eat healthy food ,anything else that we can take internally which might help our DC?? Name: sick of my eyes Country: england Comment: i know exactly how everyne feels with these stupd DARK BIG PURLE circles. The best thng to do is lots and .lots of water apparantly it works a bit Name: danielle Country: india Comment: i know how everybody feels with these god damn dark circles under my eyes. It really gets me down coz i also have fair skin to so that is eve worse. Name: Sadie Country: england Comment: Hey Snow white. Im like you. i eat really healthy and do exercise but i have the worst dark circles ever. i am the only one to have inherited them from my father!! ive tried almost evetything and nothing makes them totally disappear.i think ill always ahve them Name: snow white Country: dubai Comment: Oh god! it takes from me 2 minutes to open this page! well logicaly its because you guys have overloaded with a lot of advices ,but i cant believe most of them because i'm 21 years and i have always eat healthy food i never smoke,do exercsies,never eaten junk food drink a lot of water (with ice),seldom soda ,but even though my DC are increasing day after day because i inherited them from my family and they wont decrease at all!shall i give up? Name: Sadie Country: england Comment: I can totaaly relate to everyone on this site!! Thank god...I thought that I was the only person going through this trauma. Its so awful wen u've had loadz of sleep and people say u look tired.Ive tried loadz of products and they dont work.i jst stick wiv concealer to cover it up,it doesnt cover it properly but at least i dnt look like a zombie!!! Ive started drinking loadz of water and its helped a bit but the downside is that i need the loo every 10 mins, but its worth it Name: jason Country: england Comment: has anyone used any eye creams that have worked if so get back at me Name: hope Country: england Comment: Aha your free to do what you want im merely stating what works for me :) Name: aha Country: india Comment: i do not want to be celibate Name: hope Country: england Comment: hello Aha yup they are almost not noticable now after doing yoga for such a long while :D so consider yoga magical aswell as celibacy. both go a long way Name: Panda Country: england Comment: Hi havent posted on here a while just want to say that i realised that going on the pill can help (if your female) im guessing because the hormones in them one of the side effects may be increased blood clotting mine went from dark blue to yellow last time although long term use of the pill is not good but im taking it medium term anyways for other reasons ciao! P.S. Hereditory are the worst kind and yes eating healthy does help because fruit and veg contains bioflavanoids that is lost in processed foods. In HIGH quantities (and i mean loads) these strengthen blood vessels even those around the eyes but it takes months to notice and only reduces it by 50% i have tried it it works. I dont buy all this stuff that kidneys are the problem unless your circles are brown as blue circles means that blood is leaking out into the eye area. BYE BYE Name: aha Country: india Comment: hope before you said they were gone by half now you say they have completely gone i am confused? Name: Answers Country: usa Comment: Dark circles can be cause by liver & kidney problems, hyperpigmentation under or around the eyes, acid imbalance in the body which your body should be alkaline to get rid of dark circles and in some a condition called nigrican acanthosis. Name: hope Country: england Comment: polluting my system for a long while gave them to me but they are gone with good diet always and exercise a nd a love for life :) Name: millie Country: india Comment: thanks hope. i will try the inverted yoga pose. i have a question for you-- did you have dark circles in the past? and do you still have them, or did you successfully get rid of them? and were they the blue or brown kind? Name: aha Country: india Comment: dark circles are due to weak blood vessels around the eye Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey we welcome you :D right well if you didn't have the circles before then im guessing your bad diet may have finally taken it's toll. you see some people are born with good inborn qualities and there health will not decline so much on junk for a longer while. but eventually the body gives up and weakens. and you become like a person with low in born qualities who have had a wekaer system in the beginning, so try the no caffeine for a while and some inveretd yoga asanas aim for 10 minutes up to 30 in a hold for maximum advantage :) don't drink don't smoke eat right and thrive :D Name: nina Country: india Comment: - Name: millie Country: usa Comment: ok, so i cant get enough of this site. i hope the rest of you guys are still using it. has anyone tried the "master cleanser"? if so, did it help? Name: millie Country: usa Comment: ano-- in response to your question as to why your circles are worse on one side-- is it the side that you sleep on? i only ask because my right eye is always worse, and i sleep in the fetal position on my right side. i have switched it up occasionally just for kicks to see what happens, and sure enough, my left eye will appear worse for the day. there is some connection, at least in my case. you? Name: millie Country: usa Comment: Hi! i am soo excited to find a group of people who know what i am going thru! i am 32 and my hideous circles make me look 40!! i used to be gorgeous, and now i am almost embarrased for my husband to see me without makeup. i get soo depressed by them that lots of days i dont want to go out of the house. thank goodness for my eyeglasses that cover them up, or i might really never leave. i have the blue/ red/ purple ones. with major puffiness that makes them appear worse. they are always there, but vary in degree of severity depending on how many refined carbs i have consumed. have we concluded that the only way for me to (possibly) get rid of them is to eat a diet of raw veggies and drink juices and cut out coffee and work out like a fiend and wait and wait and wait? if so, i will take the plunge. can anyone attest that this method will work? if i am going to be a hideous monster for the rest of my life, i want to at least be able to enjoy my 3 cups of coffee a day and an occasional cookie or "balance" bar. help? dermatologist? hope? Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Hey Hope, nothing much just here in USA, i would really like to get into all this again with everybody about my and your method Hope but i dont have the time. except to tell everybody to keep with it, its a long process but its worth it. gotta go now though and take care Hope, and Lisa hope your doing better, Wor keep up the good work. Im out Peace in the Middle East lol Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey derm :D hows it going. yes smoking even once can be detrimental to your health. Name: megan Country: usa Comment: if you smoke occationally will that give you dark circles Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Hey Dark circle Guy, i think it would be funny if you wore tinted glasses all the time outside and in, there's a comedian that wears dark tinted glasses all the time but its cause his eyes are so sensitive that he has to. Dont do it. Oh by the way hello Hope. gotta go now bye Name: puffy Country: india Comment: isn't normal to get freckles...all to the asian ladies out there do u get freckles as you get older...isn't gonna continue growin' i'm scared i've seen people with freckles...i'm not talkin about people who was born with but as we get older....that what i'm talkin' about...no i'm not pregnant..i know pregnant people tend to get it...but i'm only 22.... Name: puffyeyes Country: usa Comment: Gosh..I'm only 22 and have bag under my eyes..no matter i do it won;t works...try the tea,cucumber...tomatoes..my skin so smooth and shiny every1 attract to that once they look at my eyes they be like did u get enough sleep??? since i was little my eye alway swell...any ideas...and now i'm gettin freckles..hate it....i have sensitive skin..what can i do..uh i heard that grate potatoe help the puffy eyes...has any1 try that yet?? well...how the result i might try that too...if it works i comments back.... Name: puffyeyes Country: usa Comment: Gosh..I'm only 22 and have bag under my eyes..no matter i do it won;t works...try the tea,cucumber...tomatoes..my skin so smooth and shiny every1 attract to that once they look at my eyes they be like did u get enough sleep??? since i was little my eye alway swell...any ideas...and now i'm gettin freckles..hate it....i have sensitive skin..what can i do..uh i heard that grate potatoe help the puffy eyes...has any1 try that yet?? well...how the result i might try that too...if it works i comments back.... Name: darkcircleguy Country: usa Comment: Hey everyone! I just had a question to anyone out there who was listening. Would you rather have people staring at you all the time because of your dark circles or because of darkly tinted eyeglasses. In other words, does anyone think it would be a good idea cover up dark circles with darkly tinted glasses. (even when inside) Name: hope Country: england Comment: welcome just stop . your abosolutly correct :D life need to be enjoyed. all i can say is you should make a little commitment change and that is to eat healthily exercise lot's stay away from smoke etc thats all. the more social you become the less you will notice your flaws and when you finally do think of them you will realise ohh it's gone. :) Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: Hi just stop, welcome to the discussion board. I feel like this discussion board is more than just about dc's. Its about helping each other out to solve a problem. You see, I realized dc's are a sign of over-all health. Over the years of my life, I have treated my body poorly, as a result, I have dc's. Now, however, I'd like to change my habits and unhealthy decisions and make the best of my life. I'd like to live a long and healthy life without dc's. If you'd like to live with dc's, thats your decision; I'd rather not though. I'm open to any ideas or suggestions that would help not only me, but others as well. My heart goes out to those who have bigger problems, like heart disease and cancer. I'm sure they are reaching out for help just like we are. There is nothing wrong with asking for help. We all need help in some area of our life...and you know what,I find when I'm helping others, that is when I'm most happy. Take care. Name: just stop! Country: other Comment: You have to stop thinking about this stupid DARK CIRCELS UNDER YOUR EYES! It's just a little part of your skin...this is creazy... There is a WORLD outside! BE HAPPY you are LIVE you can go out and you CAN be happy! Live is so short...don't destroy it with this stupid problem! AND...don't say; "Oh yes, this is very big problem, you can't know that..." OH, YES I CAN! I HAVE DARK CIRCELS TOO! WHATEEVER!!! And do you know what? dark circels are smaller and smaller...beacouse i don't think about it! dark circels are just in your head! DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLES HAVE A REALY BIG PROBLEMS? AND YOU ARE SAD(!!??) BEACOUSE OF THIS... JUST STOP...:( Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: We discovered that applying apple cider vingar under the eyes is not a good idea since ACV is an acid and the skin under the eyes is real thin. Also, drinking ACV has a downside too. One, it tastes nasty and two, the acid can damage your teeth. Anyway, I'm taking ACV by the pill to get its detox benefits. I've been drinking lots of water lately, close to a gallon a day and I've noticed that my complexion is improving greatly. Hopefully, my dc's will give in soon. How is everybody else doing? Name: Alla Country: india Comment: i dont know i didnt write the comment i just wanted to know who wrote it Name: Cinnamin Country: usa Comment: alla, about the apple cider vinegar, would it work with other types of vinegar, or is apple cider the only one? Name: Dave Country: usa Comment: Yes i am gone to try it. There is probally a derm that carries it around your way or one that knows where you can get it Name: ano Country: other Comment: I have some strange DCs. The DC under my left eye is much worse than under my right eye. anyone know why this can be? It has been like this for many years and it makes me look like someone gave me a punch :( Name: Hannah Country: england Comment: Derm what do you know about this teamine eye complex thanx Name: Hannah Country: england Comment: Hi Dave that product sounds great but i cant get it over here! Are u going to try it? If i buy it i have to pay loads of cash for shipping :( Name: Dave Country: usa Comment: I never of heard of that Alla. I thought i would give everyone some news i got today from my aunt thats a Dermatologist. She told me that she has a cream shes been givin to people fromone of her friends thats a plastic surgeon. The under eye cream is called Teamine. My aunt told me that she has given it to a good number of people and they had good results with this. She also told me that if you use this and you dont see results in a month dont give up it takes longer for some people. I just thought i would let you know about this some of you probally already heard of this product Name: Alla Country: india Comment: Hi who wrote this comment and how long would this take to work i desperate or does it not work? Plz reply: I have found a solution to dark circles and I think it might be the same as Ms H. chang's. Apply apple cider vinegar on your eyes for 30 mins twice a day ( morning and evening). I'm not sure if once a day will work, maybe it will take longer. As apple cider vinegar is strong avoid other areas. However u may experience a slight reddish rash but this will disappear after a while. This has worked 4 me and I hope that it will work 4 u guys too. Plz let me know. And by the way my dark circles were hereditery and due to the veins showing below the surface.Avoid doing this if u are going out immediately afterwards because the red rash takes about 20 mins to disappear. Good luck and I hope this has helped Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey hannah it wasn't you that attacked me :) umm as for your question onions and garlic aren't good for sleep or your stomoch lining. if you cut these two things away you will find you can sleep a lot easier after a few weeks :) Name: dana Country: middleeast Comment: Wor,,please tell me did your DC have gone after all these steps or are you suggesting ?did NAC cause you any side effects? Name: Hannah Country: england Comment: Hey sorry hope i wasnt attacking you sorry if my comment came out wrong its just i have had these dark circles since i was born (blue ones) thats the only reason i know its not due to masturbation but i dunno for guys maybe i mean girls have different homrones and stuff but i think your talking sense about your advice on diet though just one thing why should i avoid onions and garlic arent they superfoods? Anyway c ya bye Name: WOR Country: usa Comment: Anything we can all do to help each other is a huge plus. Thanks for all of your input, Hope...you always bring something up that is new to me! Same with a lot of other people who post here regularly. Some things that have helped my dark circles: 1) Clean diet (no junk food).Lots of veggies, fruits, healthy carbs (steel cut oats, yams, brown or wild rice), lean proteins. No white flour, no white sugar! No fried foods. No crisps. No soda!!! 2) Lots of water 3) Avoid coffee, alcohol, cigarettes 4) Check to see if you are allergic to wheat or milk (2 known allergens for a lot of people). If you eliminate these two and your DCs get better, you can assume you are sensitive to them or even allergic 5) Exercise! Cardio exercise will help with circulation (even including under your eyes) 6) Vitamin C (ingested) 7) Vitamin K (topically under eye area) 8) If your circles are brownish, it may be a sign of liver congestion. Try taking N Acetyl-Cysteine (a great liver cleanser!) Please check with your Doctor first, as I am obviously not one! 9)Purple/blue circles are often 'allergic shiners', see info above on dairy and wheat (you may also be allergic to pollen or dog hair or whatever!) 10)Topical stuff seldom works (vitamin K and the retinyl cream that Derm recommends being the exceptions). The best way to get rid of DCs is from within. I'm sure I am missing one of my things that helps. If I think of anything else, I'll write it. If any of you have any tips that have worked for you, please share!!! Name: Cinnamin Country: usa Comment: I'm 15 years old and have had dark circles since as long as I can remember. I am positive that they are gentic, because my mom has them,as well as many other relatives. Mine are so bad, I think that people who get dark circles from lack of sleep are lucky, because they have the kind that you can easily get rid of if you try. I was wondering if remedies such as cucumber juice applied daily would make a NOTICABLE difference in my case. Also, I've heard so many different remedies: cucumber juice, almond oil, tomato juice, lemon juice, homemade pastes, etc. Once again, would any of these help me? And if so, which ones would be worth a try and which one would probably give the best results? I'm desperate to get rid of these circles, or at least lighten them, not cake them with makeup. my parents are really strict about cosmetics to begin with. I have fair-ish skin. Please help. Best wishes, Cydnee Name: Dave Country: usa Comment: I have had dark circles under my eyes for a while thye seem more sunken in now that i havent been sleepin for a while now I have tried about four creams for dark circles they havent seemed to work that well. i really dont think that eye creams work for people that have the dark sunken look under their eyes some people it might help if they have juts a little darkness.I have been lookin things up and it seems people that look tired and have a lot of puffiness around thir eyes are gettin plastic surgery done to their lower eyelids and upper eyelids, sometime they get their cheeks and face more filled out so it could cover the darkness i have seen pictures of people who have had this done and their eyes seem to be alot less puffy I dont think this gets rid of all the darkness but it really decreases the sunked look and puffy or baggy look if anyone has looked in to this or has had this surgery please get back to on here i would like to hear your view on this procedure Name: hope Country: england Comment: can i just say if i may... i don't feel i should be attacked for trying to help. im not some scam trying to make you spend lot's nor am i trying to make you worse. im just giving you things that i have tried and seen changes. if you don't want to take my word for it thats absoultly fine but please don't attack me if anything just ignore me :) thankyou for your time Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey newbee how you doing today? well i can name lot's pumpkin seeds sunflower sesame are good energy boosters. mung beans chic peas for detoxing. lot's of dark green leafy veggies. like chard spinach celery etc. don't eat wheat pasts look for rice pasta or buckwheat ones. for drinks id either buy a juicer and start juicing your fruits and veggies together. this is one of the best ways to detox quickly. oats with carob and stevia for a yummy breakfast. look for spelt bread . or look up recipes online vegan ones maybe since your avoiding dairy. you can make flat breads very nice. if your going to do colon cleansing just add a little psyllium husk to your water in the moring. drink lot's of water but don't over do it :) Name: hope Country: england Comment: also i think my solutions will benefit many even you. :) ive done my research. look up about masturbation and how it gives blue rings sunken eyes emaciation sallow face and overall tired and dead look. you will see that it is one thing that may be causing your problem. at the end of the day you need a cure. so try everything. for at least a year. if you cannot keep things up this long you will realise there may be more problems in your spirit and body then just some shadows under your eyes Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: I'm making a list of groceries to get at the store. I wanna start eating healthier but I'm having trouble picking out foods. I usually dont make a list when I go to the store and I end up buying junk food. Like for breakfast, I've got eggs, oatmeal, and bananas. For lunch, tuna, salad, pasta, and soup. For dinner, chicken breast or salmon, potatos, corn and broccoli. For snack food, I've got peanuts, grapes, carrots, buffalo wings, fish sticks. For drinks, lemon water, teas, protein shakes. Anyway, I'm trying to aviod dairy and bread products. Its hard to come up with some clean foods to buy in the store. I heard the healthiest fruit is kiwi and the healthiest vegetable is broccli. Anyway, what foods do you all think consist of a good diet? Hope what are some of the things that you eat to stay healthy and fight off dc's? Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey tweety don't give up. just understand that if you have polluted your body at some point in your life. then you are just going to have to pay the price for a while. once you are detoxed they will be gone. stay healthy and active. never touch junk food for at least a year and then see the changes. if your dark circles don't clear then chances are other things will p.s im no lady :) Name: tweety Country: other Comment: I just feel sorry for us who have DC,because there is no solution JUST a new day of hope,,and we are lucky we have our professor MISS HOPE who informs us about her wow solutions which are not reasonable at all or it would take years to notice an invisible changes,,,i fed up Name: hope Country: england Comment: even though they may be hereditary it's still curebable. say your father had weaker kidneys than most maybe due to past diet or lack of good hydration everything has a root so you must find out exactly which part of you isn't receiving enough attention. Name: Hannah Country: england Comment: Sorry Hope but i dont think being celibate will help dark circles maybe for some ppl i have had mine since being little so i think they are heridtory but if ppl want to try it i guess theres no harm i just know its not the problem for me i have had dark circles for so long Name: hope Country: england Comment: oh and go to curezone and look up the water cure :) good luck and my email is down this page somewhere have a look if you need further assistance Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey welcome smart. best thing would be is to go a detox plan for a few weeks and never ever eat any junk food that is offered in stores. these have hidden ingredients that are detrimental to your health. masturbation is quite damaging after a while. practising celibacy will eventually take away all your symptoms but of course give it at least 6 months to notice changes :) Name: smart Country: canada Comment: hi HOPE I read this your comments here, they are correct, I am thin (60 kg, 175 cm) and have been suffering from DCs ( dark brown), for my case it is strongly related to the masturbation yet when I compare myself to my friends I do it barely (once a two week). it changes my face's color(helping me to be anaemic) , and my eyes become sunken, I am kinda afraid of intercourse because of this. you were talking about kidneys. I am really bored of a tired face, even in the morning I have a tired face recently,it also relates to food when I skip one meal, I feel my eyes are going down! I have been also seating behind the computer for hours due to my job. how can I fix it ? and return the strength to my kidneys, Thanks a bunch. Name: check Country: dubai Comment: check Name: rabia Country: australia Comment: To whom it ever may concern, Hi my name is rabia saud and i am really looking forward for some tips to get rid of dark circles.I have permanent dark cicles, i've tried applying all types of dark circle cream but nothing works.............. so plzzzz could you tell me a solution of how to get rid of dark circles. iam worried............. Name: hope Country: england Comment: well if your stomoch problems have cleared up thats a good sign. remember nature is slow at healing but once it does :D it's magical. what colour are your circles black brown blue purple? sunken? if so they are blue or purply and sunkenish try to not masturbate for a while . they say if you are celibut for a while you restore a lot of lost energy and health to your body. Name: Hannah Country: england Comment: Hi hope i have now avoided dairy and wheat for about 3 months my stomach problems cleared up more or less within a month but my dark circles havent improved how many months should i be cutting them out for? Thanks for your help Name: hope Country: england Comment: don't worry you just have to solve the hereditary problem that will take experimentation. try cutting out dairy and gluten grains for a few months and then notice if anything changes. drink lot's of veggie smoothies and eat lot's of raw fruit and vegetables . and make a good borth every now and then trying your best to avoid garlic and onion Name: Hannah Country: england Comment: well i dunno that i have any other symptoms I live well and eat well i do get some bad stomach problems from time to time but my dad has these circles too so i think they may be hereditory :(( Name: hope Country: england Comment: welcome hannah umm ive never heard of that myself but i would rather do it naturally. could you please state your symptoms if anything else? thankyou because then i can have a better understanding Name: Hannah Country: england Comment: Oh my god by the way forgot what i came here to say! Ok well i have these blue colour around my eyes and just been doing some reading online and theres this process called sclerotherapy been done on some peoples eyes and the colour completely disappeared after 2 months just wondering if anyone has any info on this or if it is some hoax i hope not see ya Name: Hannah Country: england Comment: jon what you on about man your talking rubbish! LOL whats that gotta do with circles anyways? Of course people are more unhealthier now than they used to be and the human body is not able to cope with these new pollutants and toxins becuase of the way we have EVOLVED go back to biology class Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey jon well im sorry you don't believe in it. but i have seen enough changes in people over the years. we are meant to be active always. were not meant to live indoors. were not meant to breathe in pollution. we are meant to eat pure natural foods and not refined modern food. this is just a few reasons why we are unhealthy. the reason some can get away with a bit longer is they have good in born qualities. once you detox all the rubbish you once consumed it will be a weight of your shoulders and everywhere :P and you will look great. nature is slow but powerful so just be patient and thankyou jon for your words ill have a little think over it say 30 seconds :) Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Yes lisa, thats your dark circles flipping over, little by little you will start to see white dots pop up but there may be a what i like to call a "stuck" time were you dont notice anything for days, keep doing what i tell you and you will see big things about to change. The white dots are a symbol of you excercising not smoking and eating ok. the synergy and vitamin k creams help speed up the process lisa. If you have any more questions keep in contact here. I gotta go . bye bye Name: Jon Country: france Comment: I cannot believe that there still educated people in this world who believe in Darwinian evolution. Hope from the UK, with all due respect,evolution is an outdated theory with absolutely no evidence to back it up. Micro/small scale evolution takes place within species (such as changes in hair color, size, etc..) but the macro/large scale changes you mention have no evidence to back them up. Name: Jon Country: france Comment: I cannot believe that there still educated people in this world who believe in Darwinian evolution. Hope from the UK, with all due respect,evolution is an outdated theory with absolutely no evidence to back it up. Micro/small scale evolution takes place within species (such as changes in hair color, size, etc..) but the macro/large scale changes you mention have no evidence to back them up. Name: lisa Country: india Comment: Hey Derm, I have just noticed a few white spots under one eye, do you know why this is happening? Name: dana Country: middleeast Comment: Sam ,did you use N-acetyl-cysteine product or N-acetyl-L- cysteine???and X what is going on with you? Name: Other Country: england Comment: Thanx 4 all ur help by the way ppl! C YA! Name: Other Country: england Comment: Hi erm just started taking NAC my circles looking worse is this normal?! Help do they get worse before getting better is it a good sign Name: dark circle Country: india Comment: hi, i am 30 years old and i have very serouse problem of dark circle so i like to searching for best cream & some tips advise also. pls feed back me i am waiting for your reply. Thanks. Name: hope Country: england Comment: good old sea water swim often and the minerals your body needs will help detox and mineralize you. your really lucky to live in austrailia i'd be in the sea everyday haha :D Name: Anna Country: australia Comment: I exercise lot each day never smoked or had alcohol and also i eat healthy and tried all these creams but mine they never go away what to do? Name: hope Country: england Comment: lol awww thanx :) we'll ill be here for people. i will not give in as im sure neither will you . i have made a friend not masturbate for 6 months just to see if anything changes haha poor guy. it's so addictive. keep spreading your success i think people are finally understanding how long the process is to recovery Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: I'm starting to like this billboard better because of you Hope. and thanks to you also newbee and all other supporters. Hope i know we can give hope to all dark circle sufferers if we press on. I believe i cant keep my success unless i give it away. When you get healed you must pass it on and so forth. So long everybody and thanks Hope, you really do give people Hope. I'm starting to like Englanders more and more. Anyways Cheerio lol Name: Damien Country: usa Comment: I have been usin teamine for dark circles my derm reccomended me this product sayin people have had results with this.has anyone used this product in here? Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Well lisa, the vitamin A works as a skin thickener and the vitamin K works as a healer. The reason you are feeling these vibrations is because your eyes are starting to remember. The skin has a memory of its own. Example: if you were to always make a certain face my squinching your eyes together or making a funny face everyday all the time your face will remember that. If you were to stop your face would vibrate trying to imitate that face you made constantly because the memory of your skin would make it, Hence the saying dont make faces at people cause you will stay like that. That statement is true to the last word. The skin is the biggest organ outside the body and has certain characteristics of the human mind like i said before memory. Basically your under eyes are remembering again and have to go through a stage i like to call the metamorphisis stage inorder to remember. But it will take more than just the vitamin A and K to get that process going. Like i said before excessive excercise.But im not gonna get into that again, just look down to see what i wrote if anybody missed anything. Name: lisa Country: other Comment: Hi Derm, I'm using the vitamin k and vitamin A creams and i've started to notice ticks under my eyes, can you tell me why these are happening? Name: hope Country: england Comment: i 2nd that :D ill just add remember we have evolved from being on all fours running walking always exercising. check out the bear walk somewhere it's where you go on all fours. now the reason we have gotten weak is because we suddenly stood up and only used two of our feet . which blocks alot of circulation the facial area. which is why inverted yoga asanas rush blood around quickly because you are head down as if you would still be walking on all fours :)last;y when your on all fours you are continuously exercising your posture. and if you posture and neck are weak then your eyes will be weak also. because your body is not receiving the circulation. ill let derm say the last part to set you off. peace Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: Great post Derm! Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Hey room back again to give some info. I remember in the past my dark circles would dissappear when i quit smoking and ate pretty good but there was one key component in the equation that took it all the way for me and that was excercise, but im not talking about no plain excercise here, im talking about the excessive type. Doing excessive excercise will awaken your eyes so that they will come back alive. I would say jogging is the best and or standing in place jogging. Running up and down the stairs gets you going along with weight lifting. Excessive is the key word because your gonna have to do it to get rid of the circles. I promise you not only will they go away but it will make you feel good and give you an overall confidence about yourself. For some people starting off wanting to get rid of there circles , excercising can give you the strength to on , on the daily. We all know how dark circles can put someone down and make them feel depressed but i say work out and kick those circles in the ass. No smoking + pretty good food+ excessive excercise for about one hour a day for a whole month at the end of the 3 month recovery rate i propose to you+ vitamin A + K for the 1st month of hydration = a whole mess of facial ticks a lot of suffering a civil war with your face that will bring twists and turns and small vibrations all through out your face and around your eyes that will take your dark circles away. All of this will actually plumpen the under eye and give you a nice look. Well if there are any questions about this article or any further questions you may need to ask me about anything please feel free to write anything down on the billboard and submit it. Thank you for listening and take care now. Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: Thanks for the info X, I'll start taking it on an empty stomach. I think whoever wants to get rid of dc's should at least try NAC. Name: far Country: usa Comment: anybody other than wor had success with NAC? please as many people answer Name: X Country: other Comment: newbee try takin it on an empty stomach cos i read somewhere that NAC should always be taken on an empty stomach. type in in google NAC and empty stomach. this site wont allow me to add the link of the webpage Guidelines for Use # NAC is most effective when taken on an empty stomach. Hope this helps. are ur dc's not getting even slightly lighter? Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: X, no I havent been taking NAC on any empty stomach. On the directions on the bottle it says to take preferably with meals but I dont know. What do you think is best? Name: X Country: other Comment: newbee hav u been taking it on an empty stomach? Name: hope Country: england Comment: it is one of the amino acids that can make up a protein however you need all 8 to do so. best way is beans and rice Name: ich Country: germany Comment: Isn't NAC somethink like protein? Name: iana Country: india Comment: Which NAC vitamins help for dc's? Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: Lisa, I assume your asking, what color are my dc's=purplish ones. Is NAC good as in does it work? It hasnt been really working for me yet, but it has been working for a lot of people on here so I think it is good stuff. I never even heard of NAC until Sam recommended it. Name: lisa Country: other Comment: hi newbee, what colour are your colours? do you find the NAC good? Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: Hope, to answer your new poll, I have good eyesight with dark circles. I'm curious to know what kinda eye exercises your referring to? I was gonna buy vitamin K, but unfortunately it has vitamin E in it too and my skin is allergic to vitamin E. Ah well. Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: X, I'm taking 2 capsals of NAC a day which is 1,200 mg. I'm thinking about taking 3 capsules just for the heck of it...maybe even 4! I dont think you can OD on NAC. Name: lisa Country: other Comment: Hi derm, i've just started using the vitamin k cream and i can feel the ticks happening, can you tell me why these happen Name: X Country: other Comment: Wat dosage of NAC did u take newbee? Name: WOR Country: usa Comment: Dana, I use 1500 mg of NAC every day. It's important to take it on an empty tummy. So, take it 15 minutes before breakfast. You might want to start out with slightly less mg because it can upset your stomach. Just build up your tolerance to it. Liver flush was no big deal. My circles seem better but I won't do it again. I woke up at 3 AM last night with itchy eyes and realised that I am allergic to down pillows. And that is what I sleep on!!! So please make sure you are not allergic to down!!!! I think we should all write down what seems to work best for us with battling the dreaded DCs. I am soooo sleepy so I will do it tomorrow. Looking forward to reading everyone's tips! Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: Hi Anna. I've been tryin all kinds of stuff and I have to admit that this is fun, just trying all kinds of ways to get rid of dc's. I think I have the most stubborn dc's though, the purplish ones. Anyway, I've been takin NAC for about 2 weeks now, 2 capsals daily and I haven't noticed any improvement in my dc's yet. NAC mainly effects brown dc's for people since NAC is a great liver detox. Even if NAC doesn't work, I'm still gonna take it. I got NAC from the vitamin store. Theres no need to order it from the internet. I'm gonna start taking Apple cider vinager and cayenne pepper by the capsal too! Man, somethings gotta work! I can go on in life with dc's but I'd much rather go on with out them. Oh yeah, I have trouble sleeping and I got this stuff called valerian root from the vitamin store the other day and it really helps me go to sleep at night. I'm learning that there are cures out there for ailments, just need help to find them. Thats why I like this disscussion board because we can help each other. Take care. Name: Other Country: other Comment: Hi just wondered what the other symptoms of intoxicated liver are? Name: sarah Country: netherlands Comment: Hello! There areso many NAC vitamins. SHAKIRA, WHICH HAVE YOU GOT? WHICH IS THE BEST? Name: me Country: mexico Comment: Hi! Name: other Country: usa Comment: who else has tried NAC is it working? Name: Anna Country: australia Comment: Hi Newbee just read some of your posts hav you tried the NAC for your circles? Is it working? Name: Sam Country: england Comment: U can buy form any health store maybe ur pharmacy ask em but i think u might need it on prescription. Try holland & Barrett or type in google and buy online. Take 1,500mg a day for quick results and for results like after 6-8 weeks take one 600mg capsule. Name: dana Country: middleeast Comment: WOR,,,please tell me ..from where did you buy the NAC,how many capsules did you take everyday?,,,,, Name: WOR Country: usa Comment: Derm, thanks! I am determined to do this! Hey Shakira, YAY you!! That is so cool. The NAC is helping me too. And X, if you are in the states you can try Burt's Bees concealer (they sell it at health food stores) and it's creamy and not cakey. Only 9 dollars. Or, for spendy stuff, try Prescriptives (though I like the Burt's better). And Derm is right: Keep that area hydrated. No better way than the Vit K and retinyl that Derm recommended. Vit K helps with DCs sooo much. Well, today is my liver flush. Will update late tomorrow! Name: dana Country: middleeast Comment: Shakira &Sam ,,,From where did you buy NAC?and how many capsules did you take everyday? is NAC for daily use? please till me Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Well Wor if they are looking that good then i would think you wouldn't have to be using the concealer at this point of your dark circle recovery.But im not cursing anybody that does use it neither. If you feel you need to use it for appearences then its up to you, but i would recommend that you try to lay off of the stuff when not making appearences. Try instead to keep them hydrated like i think either you or somebody else said, vitamin A and K work good together for the beginning steps of hydration to get the stimulation, lightening sensation, hydromatic cruise sensation going on under your eyes, lol. Anyways i think you know what your doing anyways and you will get your eyes back now cause i can feel it. Just wanted to say to everybody stay strong and be PATIENT like my colleague HOPE has mentioned before when she quoted me lol. Gotta go now cya all later. Name: han Country: other Comment: i am a young teenager and i have had dark circles all my life, i have been covering them up with make-up for a very long time, but they are showing through, i need some help, is their anything i can take such as vitimins to get rid of these or are they just goin to be there all my life? Name: Shakira Country: india Comment: I think it's been like a little over 2 weeks and my dc's are just almost gone! Hurrayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u dont understand i cant explain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thanx a lot SAM! Name: X Country: other Comment: WOR u're seein such good resukts after 10 days i dont think u need to wait until January! I am female. Which concealer do u use? Name: WOR Country: usa Comment: Derm, I am sure you are trying to help here but using concealer isn't a surefire way to get wrinkles. I've been using concealer for what seems like forever and not one wrinkle under my eyes! Of course I would love to erase the DCs and that is what I am working on. In the meantime I like to look attractive so will keep up appearances. Hopefully, by January 1st I won't need concealer. Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: I know i never mentioned this to anybody before but there is a psychology to your dark circles and how you look at them.When you use concealers i look at that in a theoretical type of way, because basically its kind of like having a pencil and drawing two circles,you then take some white out and try to cover the pencil markings to make them dissappear leaving a thickness on to it wich would represent the cakeyness people talk about when they say you put too much concealer. Now what you should of done besides putting the white ink over the pencil markings was to erase them. Concealer may not make your circles worst but they will damage the under eye area by putting wrinkles under them. Who needs dark circles plus wrinkles now? Wouldn't you rather want to be original and getting rid of them the right way instead of concealing them anyways?. Using something to hydrate your eyes is affective, but. I only recommend using vitamin A and vitamin K for the beginning process of hydrating your eyes for the first 2 and a half months. Afterwards your eyes should of picked itself right back to start hydrating itself and start putting itself to its old fashion self wich would be your bright normal looking eyes wich you all want and will get if you have been listening to the things i wrote a hop a skip and a jump below along with what HOPE has written down. Just remember that to fix the problem means being true to yourself. Dont cover the circles cause you feel emberassed. Instead fix the problem. Concealers will only delay yourself from getting the true clearness of your eyes. I say this to all because i want everybody to have nice clear eyes. Anyways ill be going now and please feel free to post any questions on the board for me, and im sure my colleague HOPE will be happy to answer any questions also for Hope has been very enthusiastic about helping people here and well as I. Thank you all and goodbye for now. Hope to be hearing some questions. Ta Ta lol Name: hope Country: england Comment: new poll people. who has bad eyesight and dark circles and excellent eyesight and dark circles? eye exercise is another thing to try and do for a long while it will make the eye muscles stronger therefore rush more blood around the area and fill it out. Name: WOR Country: usa Comment: X, yes I was able to cover them but it took a LOT of product. I don't know if you're male or female but as a female I can also use foundation over the concealer. Super important to keep that area well hydrated too or else concealer looks cakey. Yesterday, I noticed that I barely need any concealer. Tomorrow is the liver flush, so we'll see. Name: X Country: other Comment: WOR were u able to cover ur dc's with concealer? i hav a problem with that mine arent covered. How do you do that? or can u still see that the dc's are dark. Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey newbee wow good on you. :D parsley tea is very good also. stay in the poses try and aim for a minute or two big benefits :D i won't get the article on neem just type it in google a little research of your own goes a long way. Name: WOR Country: usa Comment: X, my DCs were so bad that people would take me aside and ask me if I was ill. And this even with me using concealer under my eyes! Especially if I wasn't drinking enough water, etc. I eat eggs and spinach with a bit of oatmeal for breakfast, a small protein shake for a snack, salmon and veggies for lunch with an apple or raspberries for dessert and either the same for dinner or I have chicken. No wheat any more, no sweets and no coffee (uggh, I miss it too). Regardless of what colour your DCs are, I think the big things to do are to not smoke, not drink coffee, not eat wheat nor any junk food, eat lots of veggies and fruits and drink a lot of water. Vitamin C is pretty amazing as well and (of course the best if you have brownish circles) NAC. I am determined to do this! Name: Sam Country: england Comment: U can try NAC for blue circles- no harm in trying. Try for like 10 days and see if it helps. Even if it doesnt it's good for ur health- so nothing to lose hey! Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: Hey Hope, I've been doing stuff to help my lungs, heart, liver and such but for the kidneys you recommended doing upside down poses, basically staying active. What else is helpful to help the kidneys? Thanks for the input. Name: Payal Country: france Comment: I've been using neem for almost 2 and a half months but not really helping. My dc's are still the same maybe a tiny wee bit lighter. Hope u say neem is toxic if taken too much an reference for that plz. i dont wannt to make myself ill. Joberry how is neem going for you? Has Joberry gone? Name: X Country: other Comment: WOR my dc's are like almost pitch black like a panda! Lol! Nice to hear that urs are going away. Are urs really dark too? and oh yeah what do u have for breakfast?lunch n dinner? Name: ZZZZ Country: canada Comment: has anyone with bluish cicles tried NAC? Name: Alla Country: india Comment: I dont understand why that pearson Neha would say that to put apple cidar vinegar on your eyes if was bad? I am confused Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey panda me and derm are not putting you down nor are we trying to make you buy stuff when have i once advertised people to buy stuff the fact is i havn't. oh wait if were being nit picky today then yes i have given a website for sea salt and a place where people can buy neem because i was asked to. you are being abit unfair panda. dark circles are not heriditary there is always a cause. and even if they were heriditary it would just be another problem in the body that our ancesters never found. tina was very helpful with the whole neem cleanse but neem is toxic in large ammounts and will make you ill you should only take it for a short while. it's been proven. i hope jobbery comes back soon so he can tell us about neem though. :) whether it be your organs your lifestyle. your hygeine. try this and that and expect ping! all gone. you need a serious raincheck and im definately not being rude. but as always everyone can feel what they wish to. as me and derm say one word... PATIENCE Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: I was drinking apple cider vinager with some water for a couple of days. It tasted so nasty, it was unbearable. On top of that, I was takin cayenne pepper with water straight and that was freakin nasty. So I stopped doing that. I just find out today that vitamin stores sell apple cider vinager and c-pepper in capsals. I'm gonna be poppin pills like crazy now. Name: WOR Country: usa Comment: Hey X. The reason I know it's the NAC is that I only gave up wheat completely yesterday (not enough time to make a difference). I'd say my DCs are 40%-50% better. Enough that people have been saying that I look 'so rested'. I really believe that if I stick to all of this that my DCs will be pretty close to gone by New Years. Really, it seems like every day they are a little better. How bad are yours??? Name: X Country: other Comment: hmmmmmm WOR USA now I'm wondering but how can you be sure that it's not the elimination of wheat that is helping get rid of the dc's and not the NAC. How much hav ur dc's reduced by? 50%? Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: I'm just here to set the facts straight on dark circles and help anybody who wants to get rid of them. Me along with Hope and some others have been very supportive on the people who post on the discussion board. I am not putting anybody down. I only wish to help. Like i said before and as i will say now, if anybody wants to get rid of your dark circles scroll down on the articles that me along with Hope have submitted for you through here.If anybody here has a question, please feel free to post it down here;i will be happy to answer for you. Thank you and goodbye. Name: WOR Country: usa Comment: Hey X, thanks for the warning about the liver cleanse. I've been drinking water with lemon in it since I decided to once and for all get rid of these damn DCs (about a month). As my other post said, I've only been using the NAC for around 10-11 days but there is a HUGE difference. Giving wheat products a miss, along with saying goodbye to coffee is helping too. I have tapered off of coffee this week by increasing the decaf to reg ratio (didn't want the caffeine withdrawal headaches!)I am in the states, X but any health food store where you can buy supplements should have NAC (N-Acetyl-Cysteine). Or, you can buy online. I am glad I don't have blackish-purple DCs. I really think I can get rid of these brown ones. Friday is liver flush day! Will keep you all posted. Name: Panda Country: england Comment: er well my dc are hereditory and plz hope and derm stop talking down to us and i dont buy all that stuff anyway but i did find some past tips on here useful mainly from tina and al i think some foods should be avoided by certain types of ppl but anyways im outta here this db is getting weird! Name: X Country: other Comment: Oh jus to let u know Wor Usa that in some cases liver flush has resulted in darker dark circles. some apparently say that cos all da toxins are let out at once and there's too many to be removed. try a gradual liver cleanse liked drink a glass or 2 of lemon juice everyday. Name: X Country: other Comment: apple cider vinegar doesnt work. instead try NAC it's gettin some gud response and has scientific backing. I was wonderin where did u get NAC from Wor USA? and how much hav ur dc's improved by? Name: hope Country: england Comment: my goodness!! don't put vinegar on your circles thats not a good idea it's acid! if you need to put something on them let it be cucumber or potato but do not under any circumstances put acid on the thinnest skin area on your entire body. the reason it got irritated is because the skin is super sensitive there. Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey thx derm :) we can help these people if they listen your right. im currently working on another way that we get dark circles. sex is ok once in a while just not in excess whereas masturbation if you are to do it. it should be maybe once a week or once a month or never and just good old fashioned intercourse just not too much because for men and woman it drains your organs energy. and when your organs are not functioning properly dark circles poor posture acne and stuff like this will show as a warning message but also a map. remember the eye area is the liver. the cheeks are the lungs. the forhead is the bladder intestines. the nose is the heart. the upper back is the lungs. so if you have problems in these places let me know and me and derm can diagnose you. Name: Alla Country: india Comment: Hi i was just reading through some old comments and someone said that applying apple cider vinegar to the eyes helps is this true? Also i have tried it under my eyes is ok but around the eyes i get a rash do you soak the vinegar in cotton wool and then apply or do you just apply it straight for 30 mins? Name: X Country: other Comment: hope what is the difference btwn sex and masturbation u said down the post there's a difference (health wise...) Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Hope the burning sensations comes naturally. The retinol is good to put on your eyes to keep them moist. Your eyes need something to work with when you first start taking care of yourself to start bringing life to them again. The retinol also will help smooth away those lines under your eyes that the dark circles caused cause of the weak state they were in. Look Panda, you dont speak for the room when you say that everybody has a healthy lifestyle ok. But as far as when you say you dont smoke or drink i can only suggest that there may be a serious underlying factor to wich the dark circles under your eyes are being contributed to you.Perhaps they are just natural for you. Did you have dark circles all your life? Cause i know i didnt. I started to get them when i was drinking and smoking alot. Answer me if you've had them all your life and i will see what i can come up with. And thanks hope for the comments, i know me and you have something here. And i know if the people listen to us they are gonna regain the glow under there eyes back. For now i must leave and get going. If you have any questions please feel free to write them down so i can answer them to the best of myh ability. Cya all later Name: Joanne Country: england Comment: Hi I just want to ask ppls opinion on whether the blue dark circles can be caused by a hormone imbalnce becuase the time when my dc are lightest is just before my period when the hormone levels drop does anyone have any info about this? The doc just told me it was hereditary Name: hope Country: england Comment: oh well i apologise in that case :) hmm sea salt i found a good one that waitrose have seasalt.co.uk i think is the site to see it. you will find it in waitrose it's where i found it. Name: Panda Country: england Comment: Hope you say some really odd things i dont know where you are getting all this stuff from but that last comment you made is not true and i do accept it can change anyways that is all that keeps me going the fact that there must be a way to get rid of them Name: dea Country: england Comment: Can somebody tell me where i can get sea salt from in england. will sainsbury's, iceland or tesco do? Name: Sam Country: england Comment: i'm glad NAC is showing gud results. keep us all up to date so that eventually we will all know the answer to dark circles. Name: hope Country: england Comment: you musn't call your body names panda. feeling bad about yourself will make you feel and look worse. if you won't talk to your body and accept it can change then you are just going to make him / her weaker and eventually it will give up. even if you ate the most healthiest diet in the world. you have to be happy in your skin Name: Panda Country: england Comment: Yes some people on here smoke and drink but most of us are very healthy and thats why we are on here so stop saying Stop smoking i never smoked or drunk or eaten badly and i still look like a panda! Name: hope Country: england Comment: hello also to help your detox speed up do a water flush which is drink 1.5 litres of water in the space of ten minutes in the morning before brushing your teeth. add lemon if you want it can only help :) the idea is the water will go straight through because theres nothing in the way and this can have a chance to clean your colon out safely. and everyone already knows that if your colon is ill you will be ill. hey derm is it the retinol that makes the burining sensation or the changes of lifestyle? :) listen to what derm says people. look after yourself because if you abuse yourself any longer dark circles may end up just being 5th down on the list. Name: WOR Country: usa Comment: Hmmm. I've read this whole HUGE thread with interest. I have brownish undereye circles and have had them forever. I don't eat junk food (haven't in years and years) don't drink sodas. In fact, my diet has always been really clean (and cleaner now). I think mine have really been affected by coffee and am tapering off of it this week. I noticed that when I gave up wheat, my circles improved a lot. After reading this whole thread about 10 days ago (today is November 6), I started with 1500 mgs of NAC, along with eating even more cleanly than usual (cutting out the coffee will help). All I eat is eggs, oatmeal, salmon, raspberries, spinach, a few almonds and whey protein shakes. As mentioned, it's only been 10 days with the NAC and I already notice a difference. Water is important and my main weak spot (I never get enough of it!!!). I will be interested to see what a full month of NAC and no coffee does for me. I am also doing a liver flush/cleanse this week, so I expect some improvement from that as well. I'm sorry you all suffer from DCs but was glad to find a board that offers some support. Will report back!!! Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: When i say ticks, i mean them as random skin spasms that happen along the face and around the eyes.They can happen at any time of the day and can be annoying at times. But when they do happen you know atleast that they are getting better. The ticks will go away and be replaced with small burning sensations around the eyes, you will start to see little white dots. Those dots represent the transformation taking place. Once you start seeing the white dots and start feeling the burning sensations that last very briefly then you will no forsure things are gonna be ok. Something radical is gonna happen afterwards. Your eyes are gonna twist and turn and start doing all types of stuff to kind of say "Hello, im back , the eyes you knew long ago are back, and we are gonna stay if you dont smoke anymore, we are gonna stay if you treat us good and dont hurt your body like you used to, we want to stay but you must be good to your body, after all the eyes are the windows to the soul and if you treat your body bad then it will show through the eyes" Thats just the way it is people, im not making this stuff up, like i said, Listen to my instructions that i posted about 3 articles down and they will go away. 3 and a half months, 3 and a half months. If you have any questions feel free to post and i will answer on the daily if i have to. Thank you and goodbye all, notice i didnt say goodluck? No luck involved people. Bye now Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: Hey Derm, what do you mean by those ticks like you said earlier. I think I've been having those. When someone starts having ticks like that does that mean their dc's are going away. Anyway, you all have some great advice! Name: Sam Country: england Comment: do not hav alcohol whilst taking NAC it's advantages of getting rid of dc may not be seen or may take longer. keep us up to date Name: norwegian man Country: other Comment: The doctor has aswered about NAC. It is not dangerous to take NAC even if you have no other sickness than DC. One can still drink alcohol when one takes NAC. He recomended a dose of 200 mg 2-3 times day In norway I need fysicaly see a doctor to get a prescription to the medicine. possible sideaffects is: diare and nauses Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey derm thats ok :) everyone is entitled :d i however am going to carry on with the experiment because it made me feel depressed believe it or not so im just doing it for me. so i will wait till i finally decide to have sex. i really believe that excessive draining of your sexual energies will make your body less active and alive. smoking like derm says will give you no hope in filling in your circles. Name: norwegian man Country: other Comment: Just asked a real doctor about NAC. I will post the result here when the doc answer and by the way the question costs 30 dollars on a very good norwegian site. Name: norwegian man Country: other Comment: Most doctors will tell you that masturbation is healthy and not a bad thing. I belive what you say Dermatologist and I will try to quit my smoking to get rid of my DC. I will also try to take some extra vitamins and alot of vitamin C. Thanks for all the tips here, but I will not stop masturbating. We all saw what happend to the seinfeld-people when they tried that;) It gives me some kind of comfort to see that many other people suffer from DC even though nobody should !! Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Sorry to disagree with you hope, but i think masturbation is not the problem causing dark circles.It's the lack of excercise, the smoking cigeretts, the drinking every weekend, and last but not least the unhealthy diet. People plagued with dark circles are lacking good practices in the things i just mentioned. You must get intuned with following and keeping up with these things. And i assure you that within 3 and a half months your circles will go away. During the 3 and a half months you will start noticing little ticks around your face and amongst your eyes. You will start to feel the heaviness lift away and your eyes begin to start healing itself. During the end of the last 15 days you will notice a large increase in ticks and a overwhelming feeling that your eyes are getting better by the minute. A good thing to do is just be patient and let it take its course. Not even lack of sleep can stop this transformation from happening. Beleive in what i say and be patient. Patience is the number 1 key. Be good all and dont give up. P. S. take a multivitamin. Chow Name: hope Country: england Comment: it's a battle. it's a drug and therfore an addiction. only you can do it. best thing to do is work up a plan of things to do. maybe exercise instead. go for a run. read extra information. once you have stopped for around a week you have this endless energy for a while until the detox speeds up. i say go for this experiment nothing ventured nothing gained right :) Name: X Country: other Comment: how the hell can u stop masturbating?????????? plz help!!!!!!!!!!!! Name: hope Country: england Comment: last thing many will discover that masturbation is a drug. those who try this cure will know what i mean especially when your young like me peace and hope to all :) Name: hope Country: england Comment: jan your dark circles may be something totally different in that case. well i think the majority of people who masturbate are thin and eat and unhealthy diet shall be riddled with that type. jan you must look into healing your kidney energies if you have a sunken look then you may be in long term dehydration. i guess the test now people is to stop the practise of masturbation say 3 months and report back. many will discover just how addicted they are to the practise peace all. Name: Sam Country: england Comment: u can buy NAC from any health store. Yes it is permanent solution but then after you have to eat healthily otherwise continue taking NAC. You will notice that u will also no longer get colds and flu. I dont know of any troubles and hav not experienced any troubles with NAC. You may in your country be able to get it from your doctor make sure it is the pure form and no chemicals added. Wishing you luck and lemme know how it goes Name: Jan Country: england Comment: Im only 14 and ive never had sex or masterbated lol so there :p Name: X Country: other Comment: Jan how can u not masturbate? most people masturbate= not everyone has dark circles therefore masturbation does not cause dark circles- i think Name: dana Country: middleeast Comment: Sam,can we buy NAC without asking the doctor or any professional ???do you think NAC is a permenant solution?any troubles could NAC cause ? Name: hope Country: england Comment: sex also makes no difference. do you have sex jan sorry if that sounds intrusive lol Name: Jan Country: england Comment: i do not masterbate and i have blue circles around my eyes the more healthier my diet the lighter they are so thats all i can do for now Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey :D thats fantastic yes follow the water cure it will eventually help. it takes a long time to rehydrate the system. let's say 6 months. good luck and guys if anyone needs help im just an email away it's written firther down i won't do it again :) and please lets get this poll going those who are keeping quiet about it i hope you are listening to what i think may be the ultimate cure. and following it. at least there really is nothing to be ashamed off even my dad still does is lmao Name: anonymous Country: england Comment: hope the water cure is great- it got rid of my mum's back pain. Is there any other similar easy cure around that is simple to follow and cheap! Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey anom thx for your response need a few more people please. OO yer good luck with nac for your liver It will help you out with the brown black ones :) Name: Shakira Country: india Comment: Almost been a week and my dark circles are fading with NAC- great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Name: Anono Country: england Comment: hope i have bluish circles but i have had them my whole life :( even when i was a child and i didnt maturbate then lol if i do then i guess they look worse but if i dont then they are still there i read bluish ones may be becuase of stagnant blood flow or something? Not sure Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey newbe it is a diagnosis i found out about in an article from 1907! :D let's see how people respond to this poll if it's a high number this may just be the problem for these type of circles i will talk about this some more soon people please respond and don't be shy this could save your life more on that later Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: Wait, so are you saying kidney failure and such is due to excessive masturbation, causing some people(umm...guess that includes me) to get bluish and purplish dc's...that's crazy! I believe what your saying hope, its just hard to. I want to know the truth about dc's, like why I have dc's and how to get rid of them...so I appreciate your help. When you have the time hope, can you elaborate on this issue some more. Name: hope Country: england Comment: p.s long term dehydration will contribute to the sunken look and be aware for the guys that zinc is lost through sememn and we need to zinc to look good Name: hope Country: england Comment: i am currently working on an article which is all about dark circles my new poll for eveyone is. do any of you people masturbate like quite a lot. and if so are your dark circles bluey purple and sunken looking. i think im really on to something if this comes back as blue or purple. with a sunken look. everybody does it it's nothing to be ashamed of. so please state whether so girls included lol also and finally are you also thin and do this and have the above symptoms. please don't be shy about this. if this really comes back as the right answers then people have an addiction to this just like a drug and it is taking down your kidney energy helping you be anaemic and playing havoc with your neurologicals so let's see :) Name: hope Country: england Comment: oh wow thanks for that dermatologist :) your right about smoking. you must quit every habbit if you are to see results and were talking at least a year or so of no slipups. it's not easy you have to basically battle yourself. retinyl i agree would be of help as would taking internal vitamins. also make sure your getting your 8 amino acids which is beans and rice together make up the 8 a complete protein. but rice and beans on their own are not going to work unless you have both on the same day :) Name: mallika Country: india Comment: i have dark circle i feel coz of aneamic Name: halnan Country: india Comment: stinkk Name: Shakira Country: india Comment: Oh by the way I am taking a high doage of 1,800 mg NAC Name: Shakira Country: india Comment: I think mine are getting lighter slightly now from the corners or is it just me seeing things but i will let u know in a couple more days. Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: I got to hand it to (Hope) that person really knows what he or she is talking about. I would just like to add that if you are a smoker then about 95 % of the circles around your eyes is from that. Needless to say that if you are a smoker you dont care about your body and probably eat foods that are not good for you wich (Hope) has definitively said will keep you from having the relief from the dark circles you so badly want to get rid of. When you put Vitamin A (Retinyl) around the eyes it thickens the skin and gets rid of wrinkles. It's a good way to keep your eyes looking good for now and the future.Patience is a key factor as HOPE said; but being persistent in keeping up with excercises and eating the right things is essential. If you think about it ciggeretts and all the junk food sold is all man made. If this was 100 years ago being active would'nt of been a problem cause you would have to work for your food not that we dont now but back then you would be working harder for less pay . Smoking is not natural and will give you dark circles so stop smoking and last but not least i would just like to say hey hey heeeeey lol Keep spreading the good word Hope and talk to all of ya later. Cyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey guys great response thankyou this is great. well it seems many have the purple blue ones. these will occur in thin people usually it is a kidney problem and exausted adrenals. a cure? oh yes but it takes a long time. find something to build up your kidneys . do lot's of inverted yoga poses all the time . you just need to rush the blood to your eye area and eventually you fill out the circles. if your thin and have them then you should try and gain weight healthily by working out all the time staying active is the deffinate key Name: Anono Country: england Comment: I think if you have the blue/purple crappy circles they are impossible to get rid of! It really sucks hope can you describe what you mean by healthy diet i think im healthy but eat wayyy too much sugar for every meal and also what colour are your circles? Name: Sam Country: england Comment: hmmmm interesting if brown circles are related to liver then it makes sense that as NAC is a strong liver detoxifier dark circles go away. Anybody else trying this NAC? make sure you buy capsules or if u can get powder. TABLETS/PILLS DO NOT WORK Name: Anono Country: england Comment: Mine are blue but they still look awful i think if they are brown then its to do with liver and stuff cause neem helps with that but i will give that stuff a go hope it works Name: viju Country: india Comment: ok Name: Sam Country: england Comment: My dark circles were also brown. why does it matter what colour they are? I dont know if they will work on your purple ones then.. hmmmm not sure but give it a try! Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: NAC sounds like good stuff. I'm gonna try in get some. That means I'll be on four things to get rid of dc's(mine are purplish): apple cider vinegar, cayenne pepper, hydrogen peroxide, and NAC...somethings gotta work! Name: Shakira Country: india Comment: Mine were dark brown and boy oh boy they were DARK BROWN before and now they've come back. I've started taking NAC again Name: hope Country: england Comment: i know we can't really polls on here but can people describe thier dark circles please? PURPLE OR BLUE BLACK OR BROWN SUNKEN OR LINESS YELLOWNESSS there are so many different conditions so please state which one you are experiencing because believe it or not theres more than one type of dark circles Name: Shakira Country: india Comment: Sam long time ago i took NAC cause i had liver damage and u are right they also got rid of my dc's. but i never knew it was cause of that. Now it all makes sense- ur right it does work but that's really good you noticed that. i forgot all about it and after i stopped taking NAC dc's are back so i will try again and will let u know. And yes the results show up really quickly. Name: Sam Country: england Comment: NAC can be bought from holland and barrett check their website and click on sports nutrition. You can take one 600mg capsule but that will take longer to work. Results may be seen after 8 weeks possibly. Please also note that dark circles have a lot to do with diet also so plz cut down on junk whilst taking these capsules try wholemeal stuff instead of white stuff healing will be much quicker. Name: Sam Country: england Comment: I hav a very simple cure to this problem and it is very effective infact everyone i know it has worked for them. Take N- acetyl- cysteine capsules or powder 1,200/ 1,600 mg a day and notice the effects within 6 weeks. This is available from hollandandbarrett the N-acteyl- cysteine is a very strong liver detoxifier. i will provide more info in my next post but belive me this simple natural cure works- dont buy creams tried all that they dont work! Name: THE BAG SISTERS! Country: england Comment: THIS IS VERY URGENT...ME AND MY SISTER ARE THINKING ABOUT PURCHASING A CREAM CALLEY HYLEXIN (FOR DARK CIRCLES) ... HAS ANYBODY TRIED THIS AND SEEN IF IT HAS HAD ANY EFFECT??? PLEASE POST BACK ASAP TO LET US KNOW... Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey thx newbee yup too much masturbation will show on you. it's not just a myth. also it makes you depressed . i know that when i did it lot's ( ok most guys do )i felt horrible after a while dark circles went darker acne flared up. i had a girlfriend and all but i was so depressed from familly stuff and like yer that contributed also. you also find when you try to top for a while you realise your using your umm lil man as a tool haha so yer just another drug Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: That was a great post hope...I didn't understand one thing though. What was that about excessive masturbation? Seriously. Name: anonymous Country: india Comment: anybody know difference between parasite cleanse and colon cleanse. Doesnt the colon cleanse get rid of the parasites? plz reply Name: hope Country: england Comment: ok one last time and not angrilly just bold so you lot will read LIVER = DARK BROWN OR BLACK CIRCLES HERDITARY = RUBBISH KIDNEYS = PURPLE OR BLUE it's true no one knows the exact cause of dark circles. only god himself. but anywho continuing SUNKEN EYES = dehydration long term ( this will take at least 6 months to rehydrate your system. everyone seems to think if your pee is clear after you drink loads of water you are hydrated sorry NO general DARK CIRCLES = Excessive masturbation parasites candida iron levels kidney energy junk food dehydration low self esteem stress bad circulation poor breathing the list goes on and on but they all point to your organs. if your immune system is poor then you will suffer. you know not to sound cocky but i don't charge you a penny for what i give you. im not some clever serial killer slowly killing you. i know for a fact of doing long term yoga healthy eating that the dark circles have improved within 6 months of doing this. if you want to eat junk food fine but then you can just moan about your so called heriditary dark circles that never go away. if you refuse to hydrate yourself properly. then fine accept your sunken eyes. if you keep drinking alcohol and caffeine and artificial puke fags then accept your liver dark circles because they won't be going no where although you may be very shortly. you can consume neem cayenne etc they would help you very much. but! if you were still eating lifeless foods the organs cannot handle then you push your self into toxemia ( self poisoning ) and then predictably you'll give up and move on to something else until eventually you put your organs into jeapoardy and then thats it too late no cure no nothing. so i refuse to believe there is no cure for dark circles because there is! it just takes a long time to rebuild your body for the ammount of years you have spent throwing in garbage we were never intended to have. and finally chances are if you have dark circles then acne veruucas and other stuff etc won't be a stranger to you. notice hmm i havn't mentioned a single product foir you to spend your hard earned money on. thats because products are man made they will age you and poison you until it's too late to reverse and i don't want you to buy stuff that is going to hurt you. take this advice on board and whole purpose of this message is PATIENCE... do you finally understand that you are going to have to make it up to your body all your life starting from today? get going because that is your cure. and be salubrious ( healthy ) happy. don't let lives problems hurt you. do yoga properly just do it you you lot all need a push and i hope im giving the right one. you have to stop believing that products and new fads are going to save you because they really won't :( Name: The Truth 34 Country: usa Comment: I've had dark circles under my eyes for over a decade(though I dont remember what age I was when they first appeared)I've tried everything from lemon juice to cucumber slices and nothing worked. Well about 4-5 weeks ago I bought Hylexin. Two days after I bought it, I read that fda site where Brenmann(sp?)labs was under investigation. Needless to say I was pissed as a motherfucker. The site said that some people that used Hylexin had some improvements but the test couldnt be considered as a clinical study because they only tested around 20 people. But I continued to use it anyway figuring I could get my money back if I wasnt one of the lucky few. When I first used it,I thought it was a scam. The cream is kinda on the iridescent side; I'm black so that trick wont work with me. So I continued to use it and 5 weeks into it, my dark circles are fading. Even my inner eyes are starting to look better. The outer corner all the way to the middle of my eyes are the same color as the rest of my skin. I guess I'm one of the lucky few. If I were strapped for cash I definitely wouldnt buy it again because it didnt start working until after the 30 money back guarantee had already passed. But if you do have the money, try it, you might be one of the lucky ones. Name: anonymous Country: india Comment: anybody know difference between parasite cleanse and colon cleanse. Doesnt the colon cleanse get rid of the parasites? plz reply Name: valantina Country: dubai Comment: Anono,what did you use for eliminating the dark circles,? Name: Jasmine Country: canada Comment: Neem Powder capsules do not work. I used it for 2 months to no avail. I didn't see any improvements in those two months. My circles looked the same. Anyone know ever tried Teamine Eye Complex? Let me know. Name: dede Country: canada Comment: lets face it ppl NO ONE knows what causes dark circles not hope and not ES NO ONE! Not even dermatologists know so you can't trust everything you trust on the internet we need to wait for a cure Name: Anono Country: england Comment: Damn i was hoping it was due to diet if its due to thin skin then can you explain why neem has lightened them up? Oh and on the hereditary bit my mum has dc and there are 6 siblings im the only one with them when i was little me and my bro had similar darkness around the eyes but his improved and mine got worse also im the only one in the family with a reallly bad digestive system oh and my circulation is good i do an hr cardio every day and drink cayenne pepper for about a yr no effect from cayenne pepper. Also my dad has realllly thin skin you can see all the veins on his face but no dc funny eh? Name: anonymous Country: india Comment: anyone know the difference between parasite cleanse and bowel/ colon cleanse? Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: Oh man I tried cayenne pepper and it tastes freakin nasty. I got some baking soda thou to balance the bad taste. I just started so I havent seen any results yet. Oh yeah and I found out something else that might help fight of dc's and not just dc's but colds and sicknesses as well. I was reading on the internet that hydrogen peroxide is an amazing chemical to the body. It is able to cure all kinds of diseases, even cancer. You cant drink it thou...it must be breathed in like an inhaler. Those nasal sprays, spray mist which can be breathed in. The peroxide makes the blood rich in oxygen which enables the cells to fight of any colds or diseases. How does this relate to dc's thou. Some ppl get dc's cause of allergies like me. Peroxide breathed in can eliminate allergies, thus eliminating dc's...I hope. I'm still testing this for results. I just started on this too, but I'm hoping it works! Name: ES Country: usa Comment: Undereye circles are not due to diet and all that nonsense, it's hereditary. My siblings and I all got them from my mom. It's the bone structure and the skin. I did some research and made myself an oil to put under my eyes since I have a large collection of essential oils. Even if it doesn't completely rid me of the circles, it's great for fine lines, so you can't lose. And it's aromatherapeutic and all natural and homemade. It's got to be better than these dumb store bought lying products since you control how much of the really good ingredients you put in. This is what I mix: Jojoba oil as the base(great for regenerating skin, absorbs right in and brings the other oils in deep to penetrate and repair inside). Helichrysum oil. (Also known as immortelle or everlasting oil). Rosewood oil. Geranium oil. Lavender oil. Lemon oil (fades spots and lightens, brightens skin). I may have added another oil or two, I don't remember. I put it in a tiny bottle which I keep away from sunlight and apply it after washing my face morning and night. Just started this two days ago. I'll report the results in a few weeks. Either way, it's darn good for the skin. Two tablespoons of the jojoba base oil. A couple of drops of each essential oil. You mix the essentials first and let them sit for an hour or two (closed - never leave oils open or they lose their potency). This is so they form a synergistic blend. Then you can add the jojoba. And I don't buy that "you need to dilute the oils in a ton of base carrier". I dilute it a little. It doesn't irritate my skin. The lemon oil I was using with jojoba oil for a week before I got my helichrysum in the mail. It certainly does lighten the skin there, and also tighten it up. I felt that the circles looked a bit better this week. If I find that my oil works to really fade the circles, I'll drop by this site to report to you all, since it sucks to have dark circles & I feel for all of you, I know how it feels. Wish me luck - I am the guinea pig. If there's a way, I'll find it! Name: hope Country: england Comment: purple and blue mean thin skin. lots of inverted yoga asanas. for you and everyones who are blue it will take around a year of good yoga stretches breathinf etc healthy diet. close your eyes very tightly ever now and then to exercise the muscles around the eyes. thin skin is a lot thinner there so see if you can find a way to add a little more fat to your face. which should fill out the hollowness and people try the water cure again another long process but it's worth it right? Name: Anono Country: england Comment: Hi i have found good effects from neem but they wont lighten after a certain point i eat healthy but i think i eat a lot of foods high in sugar like fruit juices is that bad? Anyways mine are not purple or brown but blue i have tried cayenne pepper didnt work for me byeee! Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: I'm going to attempt to summerize all the ways to get rid of dc's mentioned on this disscussion board because I appreciate everyones input and concern regarding dc's which I have a problem with as well. And I really want to understand everything that causes and that prevents dc's. Anyway, here goes...Ways to get rid of dc's: * Get plenty of sleep- I think lack of sleep may CAUSE dc's but I dont think getting plenty of sleep gets rid of them because I've gotten 10-12 hrs of sleep every night for almost a month and nothing happened. * Nutrition & exercise- this one may or may not work. No doubt a healthy diet is important & exercise which increases blood flow yet some people may be allergic to certain foods which cause them to get sick or cause dc's, yes even healthy foods like whole grains and some dairy products may cause dc's because these foods contain gluten which some people may be allergic to. I suggest trying different diets and see what works best. * Creams and products claiming to get rid of dc's- these products work for some but dont work for many. These products probably have less than 1% chance of working in my opinion yet one person said that "all about the eyes" cream by clinqiue worked after using alot of tubes which = a lot of money * Retinol and vitamin K- some one suggested using a cream called retinol under the eye and vitamin K under the eye. This sounds like it may work yet it may be costly in the end. Okay now for the best suggestions that I read on here... * Apple Cider Vinegar- this is suppose to be a super healthy drink that supplies the body with many nutrients that it needs...people have said that it can clear the complexion of the skin as well as dc's. For as good as apple cider vinegar claims to be, it does have a down side. The acid in it can damage the teeth. Yet adding water to it can help. Also applying baking soda in the mouth can neutralize the acidic effects. * cayenne pepper- this one increases blood flow preventing blood from "filling" under the eye. This one is taken in warm water. There you have it. Note that, these are theories suggested by other ppl on this board. To prove that they work, some one has to try them out and see if they work for them. Frustration and discouragement is all part of the learning process...I believe that there is a way to get rid of dc's, we just have to find it. (I didnt come up with these suggestions so I give props to Preeti, Dermatologist, hope, and everyone else who contributed. I learned a lot from this discussion board. Thanks for all the suggestions!) Name: hopeful Country: england Comment: to everyone. you must clean your system if you choose not to then that is it for you. unless you buy damging comsmetics which will also in the end just fail. if you want dark circles gone then you must stop eating junk food in full. you must forget crips sweets anything that once appetized you. this is the only way. and you must become fit! cardio yoga weights self resistance etc. the water cure! is a good start also . yoga is one of the best things aswell as cycling. try laying upside down once in a while for about 5 minutes. if you can do headstands these will rid dark circles but only a long with healthy diets. never ever not even once have foods that have been denatured. another reason having dark circles is potential parasites which comes along with depression bad hair skin tone etc and on and on. you see the only way to cure your body is to treat it the way it's meant to be. and the way things have been working for me is always active. and always moving. it works wonders. if anyone needs someone to talk please people don't buy things for your dark circles make the effort to clean yourself out with healthy fruits and veg whole grains etc. and though cucumber may be natural and helps let me tell you do you want them gone or just temporarily hidden. which can make you look unatural believe it or not. dark circles appear because they are trying to tell you something whether it's to eat more good fats to fill the eye area. these are the purply bruised looking ones. yoga will rush blood flow etc. or it be the dreaded black and brown ones. = liver congestion. these are warning messages from your body telling you to cure it and if you don't dark circles won't be the last problem. acne ring a bell? just another warning from your body. so heres the finishing of this sentence do you become healthy or do fail at the shortcuts? your choice but im here if anyone needs help i don't charge a penny so ill leave that to you lot Name: Newbee Country: usa Comment: I have read through this disscussion board, and cayenne pepper sounds like the BEST way to get rid of DC. I have yet to try it for myself thou. Whoever has tried to use cayenne pepper in water for DC, can you plz tell me if it work for you or not. Thanks. Name: Pearl Country: australia Comment: Hi , Pls suggest something very effective for my dark circles. I am having them since years and efforts have failed. I tried putting cucumber, ice cubes, creams but there's no effect. Yes i drink not much than 4 glasses of water. Is this the cause. I am trying to take in much water. Which is the fa stest way of reducing / vanishing those dark circles. My skin is too good, no marks except those dark circles which embarrass me. Pleeze help me.....poor me.... Name: queen.of Country: canada Comment: (I forgot to change the country when I posted last >.<) Anyway... for those willing to spend ALOT of money (i didn't my dad bought it for me a couple years ago when none of us knew anything about makeup)... Lacome's concealer works FANTASTICALLY. But if I recall it was probably $40-50. I know with a brush it was $50 altogether. Craziness. Name: queen.of. Country: india Comment: Someone commented on how sinuses play a role, and it makes perfect sense with my dark circles (I have a cold right now and they're very bad). Can anybody tell me how to prevent getting congested, ect? Name: anna Country: canada Comment: i was wondering how would u change the colour of ur eyes without contacs Name: Jen Country: england Comment: Hi everyone i found some stuff that will help all you Gals with circles under your eyes theres this stuff that you can get called eye tuck it so great and only cost �30.00 thats if you have bags under your eyes if you have really dark circles use this stuff called circle clear for �20.00 It really works you can buy it in boots TRY IT Name: urmila Country: india Comment: I have Dark circle under my eyes , which make me puke when i look in the mirror. i want to get rid of d/c for GOOD. I would really appreciate if u could come help me with simple permanent solutions. hi i am a 24 year old female, with really pretty facial features . my problem is dark circles under my eyes. this is really getting depressing me.so plz help out with this any kind of medical treatment or cream.plzzzzzzzzzzz tell me Name: Asia Country: usa Comment: I have dark under eye circles, and people don't like me because of my under eye circles i just don't want to use anything that anybody gives me do you have any advice on how to get rid of them in the next two weeks or so? Name: Shamim Country: india Comment: Sorry hope i didnt quite understand the water cure plz tell us in detail. thankyou Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey no prob :) well it's called the water cure with mineralised sea salt, if you do that you will be much healthier and you will see the benefit's. if you hydrate as well as take in good quality sea salt you are all going to be healed within 6 months :) good luck and if anyone needs one on one help im on email :D peace Name: Shamim Country: india Comment: Sorry hope i dont have an e-mail account. I prefer discussion boards i dont have to deal with loads of junk mail lol! Plz share the technique- thanks (hav u tried it too?) Name: hope Country: england Comment: shamim wow congratulations if you email me at dental_floss_eat_yum@hotmail.com ill give you something to go with your apple cider vinegar technique :) you must be proud well done. apple cider vinegar takes care of parasites in time and it helps to make digestion quicker which results in a lesseneing of dark circles and in your case clearer skin. because if your digesting quicker then your toxins are coming out a much faster pace :) hope yo hear from you Name: barbie Country: usa Comment: I have been using Hylexin twice a day for almost 1 month and have not seen any improvement at all! Since they offer a money back guarantee, I am going to return it. The product that has actually worked best for me (with puffiness and dark circles) is made by Avon (which I don't work for, I buy it from a friend's wife) Advanced Eye Perfector with avec peptides. It costs anywhere from $9 to $12 depending on the monthly sales. I'm returning the Hylexin and starting back on the Avon product. Good luck! Name: Shamim Country: india Comment: I'm new to this board and i once had really bad acne. I started taking apple cider viengar (2 tablespoons diluted in 1 litre water0 and drank this through out the day. My acne disappeared and guess wat so did my dark circles and my skin is glowing. It is really a miracle worker! But you have to give it 4-6 weeks. My acne cleared up after 3 and a half weeks. Good luck n i hope this works for u too. Let me know how it goes and im sure u'll be impressed Name: hope Country: england Comment: for you eating nothing but fruits and veg for a while will be very easy and will take care of your problems :) Name: Avin Kart Country: india Comment: (15/M) Hi everyone. I'm kinda new here but not my problem. i have D/c under my eyes , which make me puke when i look in the mirror. i know a few temporary solutions, but it keeps coming back. i want to get rid of d/c for GOOD. 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Resveratrol is a selective inhibitor of cyclooxygenase-1(COX-1).¹ It inhibits cyclooxgenase and peroxidase activities of COX-¹ with ED values of 15and 3.7uM,respectively.respectively.It also has antioxidant properties. Reference Jang, M., et al. 1997. Science 275, 218. Chen, C.K., et al. 1996. Gen. Pharmacol. 27, 363 MSDS MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET This form complies with OSHA's Hazard Communication Standard,29CFR,1910.1200. IDENTITY(As Used on Label and List):Resveratrol SECTION ��-Product Identification Resveratrol Manufacturer Name and Address: Telephone Numbers: Organic Herb Inc. 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Special Fire Fighting Procedures: As in any fire,wear self-contained breathing apparatus pressure-demand (MSHA/NIOSH approved or equivalent), and full protective gear to prevent contact with skin and eyes. Unusual Fire and Explosion Hazards: Emits toxic fumes under fire conditions. SECTION V Acivity Data Resveratrol Stability:Unstable[]stable[X] Conditions To Avoid-Instability: Incompatibility-Matcrials To Avoid: oxidizing materials Hazardous Decomposition Or Byproducts: carbon dioxide,carbon monoxide Hazardous Polymerization:May occur[]Will not occur [X] Conditions To Avoid-Hazardous Polymerization: SECTION �� -Health Hazard Data Resveratrol Route(s)of Entry:Inhalation?Yes,Skin?Yes,Eyes?Yes,Ingestion?Yes Other: Health Hazards(Acute and Chronic): Contact may cause skin or eye irritation.The toxicological properties of this compound have not been fully evaluated. Carcinogenicity:NTP?,IARC Monographs?,OSHA Regulated? Carcinogenicity/Other Information: LD50/LC50: Signs and Symptoms Of Exposure: Irritating to the nose,throat and respiratory tract. Medical Conditions Generally aggravated By Exposure: Emergency and First Aid Procedures: If inhaled remove to fresh air.If not breathing,give artificial respiration or give oxygen by trained perso- nnel.Get immediate medical attention.if swallowed,wash out mouth with water provided person is conscious. Never give anything by mouth to an unconscious person.Get medical attention.In case of contact with eyes, hold eyelids apart and flush eyes with plenty of water.After initial flushings,remove any contact lenses and continue flushing for at least 15 minutes.Have eyes examined and tested by medical personnel.In case of skin contact,immediately wash skin with soap and plenty of water.Remove contaminated clothing.Get medical attent- ion if symptoms occur.wash clothing before reuse. SECTION ��-Precautions for Safe Handling and Use Resveratrol Steps To Be Taken In Case Material Is Released Or Spilled: Vacuum or sweep up material and place in disposal container.After removal,flush the contaminated area thoro- ughly with water. Waste Disposal Method: Dispose in accordance with local,state and federal regulations. Hazard Label Information:Avoid contact with skin and eyes.Do not reuse this container.Use with adequate ventilation. Wash thoroughly after handling. Precautions to Be Taken in Handling and Storing: Avoid contact with eyes,skin,and clothing.Do not reuse this container.Use with adequate ventilation.Wash thoroughly after handling. Other Precautions: SECTION ��-Control Measures Resveratrol Protective Equipment Summary -Hazard Label Information Eye wash station in work area Lab coat Latex disposa- ble gloves Safety glasses Safety shower in work area Vent Hood Respiratory Equipment (specify Type): Ventilation: Safety glasses protective Gloves: Latex disposable gloves Other Protective Clothing: Lab coat Work/Hygienic/Maintenance Practices: Facilities storing or utilizing this material should be equipped with an eyewash facility and a safety shower.Wash thoroughly after handling. SECTION ��-Additional Comments Resveratrol For research use only,not for human or veterinary clinical use. For research use only,not for human or veterinary clinical use.DISCLAIMER: This information is believed to be accurate and represents the best information currently available to us. However,we make no warranty of merchantability or any other warranty,express or inplied,with respect to such information,and we assume no liability resulting from its use.Users should make their own investigations to determine the suitability of the information for their particular purposes. Name: Sell Plant extract -Sesamin extract Country: other Comment: Dear Manager, How are you and thanks very much for all of your support during the past years! Re: Bio-samin We have the best quality Bio-samin in stock for sale, we will offer our long term business partners the lowest price in the world for this product. Bio-samin is a 100% natural source Sesamin extracted from Black Sesamin Seed Oil by Organic Herb Inc. Organic Herb Inc. is the first one who bring sesamin into health food field. Bio-samin Formal Name: [1S-(1��,3a��,4��,6a��)]-5,5��-(tetrahydro-1H,3Hfuro[3,4-c]furan-1,4-diyl)bis-1,3-benzodioxole Molecule Formula: C20H18O6 Molecular weight: 354.4 Purity: 90% Stability: 2 years at -20��C Supplied as: A crystalline solid UV/Vis: max: 235, 286 nm Laboratory Procedure For long term storage, we suggest that sesamin be stored as supplied at -20��C. It will be stable for at least one year. Sesamin is supplied as a crystalline solid. A stock solution may be made by dissolving the sesamin in an organic solvent purged with an inert gas. Sesamin is soluble in organic solvents such as ethanol, DMSO, and dimethyl formamide. The solubility of sesamin in these solvents is 0.5, 12, and 33 mg/ml, respectively. Sesamin will be stable for at least six months in these solvents if stored at -20��C. Sesamin is sparingly soluble in aqueous buffers. Further dilutions of the stock solution into aqueous buffers or isotonic saline should be made prior to performing biological experiments. For maximum solubility in aqueous buffers, sesamin should first be dissolved in DMF and then diluted with the aqueous buffer of choice. Sesamin has a solubility of 50 ug/ml in a 1:10 solution of DMF:PBS (pH 7.2) using this method. Store aqueous solutions of sesamin on ice and use within 12 hours of preparation. Although the aqueous solutions of sesamin may be stable for more than 12 hours, we strongly recommend using a fresh preparation each day. Sesamin is a non-competitive inhibitor of ∆5-desaturase. It inhibits the conversion of dihomo-r-linolenic acid to arachidonic acid with a Ki value of 155 uM in rat liver microsomes. Organic Herb Inc. Xinsha High Tech Zone, Changsha, Hunan, China. Tel: +86 731 4060828 Fax: +86 731 4023669 Website: Http://www.organic-herb.com E-mail: sales@organic-herb.com Typical CoA CERTIFICATE OF ANALYSIS Natural Way to Better Life! Product and Batch Information Product Name: Black Sesame Extract Country of Origin: P. R. China Botanic Name: Sesamum indicum L Type of extraction: Water/ Grain Alcohol Plant Part: Seed (Dried, 100% Natural) Active Ingredient: sesamin Batch: BSE90-050321 Manufacture Date March 21, 2005. Extract Ratio: Approx. 240 to 1 extrtact Analysis Date March 21, 2005. Ananlysis: 25Kg/ 1 drum Report Date March 21, 2005. Analysis Item Specification Result Test Method Active Ingredeints Assay NLT 90% sesamin 90.15% HPLC Physical Control Identification Positive Conforms TLC Appearance Fine Powder Complies Visual Color Gray White Complies Visual Odor Characteristic Complies Organoleptic Taste Characteristic Conforms Organoleptic Sieve Analysis 100% pass 80 mesh Complies 80 Mesh Screen Loss on Drying 5% Max 4.31% 5g / 105C /5hrs Solubility Insoluble in Water Soluble in grain Alcohol solution Conforms /Visual Ash 5% Max 3.62% 2g / 525C / 5hrs Chemical Control Sulphate 0.5% Max Complies 2g / 525C / 5hrs Insolubles In Ethanol 10ppm Max 4.2ppm �� Ethanol Resides 0.2% Max Complies �� Arsenic (As) NMT 2ppm Conforms Atomic Absorption Cadmium(Cd) NMT 1ppm Conforms Atomic Absorption Lead (Pb) NMT 2ppm Conforms Atomic Absorption Chlorate (Cl) NMT 1ppm Conforms Atomic Absorption Phosphate Organics NMT 1ppm Conforms Gas Chromatography Heavy Metals 10ppm Max Complies Atomic Absorption Sterilisation Method High Temperature & High Pressure for short time (5�� �C 10��)(Free from Gamma Irradiation). GMO Status GMO Free Conforms / Pesticides Residues NMT 1ppm Conforms Gas Chromatography Microbiological Control Total Plate Count 1000cfu/g Max 50cfu/g �� P.aeruginosa Absent O.K. �� S. aureus Absent O.K. �� Salmonella Absent O.K. �� Yeast & Mold 50cfu/g Max 10cfu/g �� E.Coli Negative Negative �� Staphylococcus Negative Conforms �� Aflatoxins NMT 0.2ppb Absent HPLC Salmonella Negative Negative �� Packing and Storage Packing Pack in paper-drums and two plastic-bags inside. Storage Store in a well-closed container away from moisture. Shelf Life 2 years if sealed and store away from direct sun light. Expiration Date March 20, 2007. MANUFACTURER ORGANIC HERB INC. This C of A format refer to 1999 National Nutrition Foods Association -- USA Analyst QC manager QA Manager Wish you all of the best and regards! If there are any further questions, please don't hesitate to contact us. Sincerely yours, Frank Liu Manager Organic Herb Inc. Phone: +86 731 4060828 Mobile: +86 135 07475971 Fax +86 731 4023669 E-Mail: frank@organic-herb.com Website: http://www.organic-herb.com -----------------------Natural Way to Better Life! Name: Sell Plant extract -white kidney bean Country: other Comment: Dear Manager, How are you and thanks very much for all of your support during the past years! Re: White kidney Bean Extract We have the best quality White kidney Bean Extract in stock for sale, we will offer our long term business partners the lowest price in the world for this product. Bring Nature to a Better Life! Http://www.organic-herb.com CERTIFICATE OF ANALYSIS Product and Batch Information Product Name: White Kidney Bean Extract Country of Origin: P.R. China Botanic Name: phaseolus Vulgaris Type of extraction: Water Plant Part: Bean (Dried, 100% Natural) Active Ingredient: Phaseolamin Batch: WKB01-050727 Manufacture Date July 27, 2005. Extract Ratio: Approx. 12 to 1 extrtact Analysis Date July 27, 2005. Ananlysis: 225Kg/9drums Report Date July 27, 2005. Analysis Item Specification Result Test Method Active Ingredeints Assay NLT 1% Phaseolamin 1.12% HPLC Physical Control Identification Positive Conforms TLC Appearance Fine powder Complies Visual Color White to light yellow Complies Visual Odor Characteristic Complies Organoleptic Taste Characteristic Conforms Organoleptic Sieve Analysis 100% pass 80 mesh Complies 80 Mesh Screen Loss on Drying 5% Max 3.78% 5g / 105C /5hrs Solubility Good soluble in hydro-alcoholic solution Conforms Visual Ash 5% Max 4.23% 2g / 525C / 5hrs Chemical Control Sulphate 0.5% Max Complies 2g / 525C / 5hrs Insolubles In Ethanol 10ppm Max 4.2ppm �� Ethanol Resides 0.2% Max Complies �� Arsenic (As) NMT 2ppm Conforms Atomic Absorption Cadmium(Cd) NMT 1ppm Conforms Atomic Absorption Lead (Pb) NMT 2ppm Conforms Atomic Absorption Chlorate (Cl) NMT 1ppm Conforms Atomic Absorption Phosphate Organics NMT 1ppm Conforms Gas Chromatography Heavy Metals 10ppm Max Complies Atomic Absorption Pesticides Residues NMT 1ppm Conforms Gas Chromatography Microbiological Control Total Plate Count 1000cfu/g Max 50cfu/g �� P.aeruginosa Absent O.K. �� S. aureus Absent O.K. �� Salmonella Absent O.K. �� Yeast & Mold 50cfu/g Max 10cfu/g �� E.Coli Negative Negative �� Staphylococcus Negative Conforms �� Aflatoxins NMT 0.2ppb Absent HPLC Salmonella Negative Negative �� Packing and Storage Packing Pack in paper-drums and two plastic-bags inside. Storage Store in a well-closed container away from moisture. Shelf Life 2 years if sealed and store away from direct sun light. Expiration Date July 26, 2007. Wish you all of the best and regards! If there are any further questions, please don't hesitate to contact us. Sincerely yours, Frank Liu Manager Organic Herb Inc. Phone: +86 731 4060828 Mobile: +86 135 07462863 Fax +86 731 4023669 E-Mail: frank@organic-herb.com Website: http://www.organic-herb.com -----------------------Natural Way to Better Life! Name: Sell Plant extract powder Country: other Comment: Dear professor, How are you! I am so glad to have this precious opportunity to introduce Organic Herb Inc. to your reference. Organic Herb Inc. is a Chinese high bio-technology manufacturer and has gain high reputation for its high quality products and competitive price, as well as its strict operation according to GMP and GAP.Our philosophy is to approach health care and lifestyle naturally, making people aware of the influences affecting our health, happiness and future. Each product is carefully extracted, isolated and purified according to food science research from our leading universities. We incorporate lifestyle and unvironmental factors into the health care picture as well. Our main products is as bellow: Item No. Name Ratio/Percentage Active Ingredients 000 green tea extract:30%-95% 001 Alfalfa Extract 5:1/5 Flavonoids 002 Asparagus Root Extract 4%~10 Asparagoside 003 Astragalus Extract 0.2%,0.4%/16%;70% Flavone&Polysacchrides 004 Billberry Extract 10%~25% Anthocyanidins 005 Black Coosh Extract 1.5%,2.5 Triterpene glycosides 006 Black Tea Extract 20%~30 Polyphenols 007 Bupleurum Extract 5% Bupleurum saikosaponins 008 Celandine Extract 2% Chelidonin 009 Cordyceps Extract 4:1 Cordyceptic aci 010 Citrus Aurantinum Extract 4%,6%,8% Synepherin 011 Dahurian Rhododendron Extract 70% Proanthocyanidin 012 Dandelion Extract 3% Flavonoids 013 Dongquai Extract 0.1% Ferulic Acid 014 Echinacea Extract 4% Phenolic 015 Elderberry Extract 5% Anthocyanidins 016 Epimedium Extract 5% Epimediosides 017 Eyebright Extract 4:1 Flavonoids 018 Fo Ti Extract 2% Phosphatide 019 Garlic Extract 2% Allicin 020 Gentian Root Extract 5% Gentianin 021 Giant Knotweed Extract 4%~20% Resvertrol 022 Ginger Extract 5% Gingerol 023 Ginkgo Biloba Leaf Extract 24%/6%, 24%/4%28%/8%, 30%/10 Ginkgoflavoglycosides/Terpene Lactone 024 Ginseng Extract 16%~90% Ginsenosides 025 Golden Seal Extract 5% Total Akloides 026 Golden Rod Extract 5% Flavonoids 027 Gotu Kola Extract 10% Triterpenes 028 Grape Seed Extract 95% Proanthocyanidins 029 Grape Skin Extract 20% Proanthocyanidins 030 Green Tea Catechins 60%~85% Tea Catechins 031 Green Tea Extract 40~98% Polyphenols 032 Guarana Extract 16% Caffeine 033 Gynostemma Extract 20%~90% Gypenosides 034 Hawthorn Berry Extract 2.0% Vitexin 035 Hawthorn Leaves Extract 2% Hyperosides 036 Hibiscus Flower Extract 1% Anthocyanidins 037 Hops Flower Extract 0.30% Flavonoids 038 Horse Chest Nut Extract 20% Aesbin 039 Horsetail Extract 7% Silica 040 Jasmine Tea Extract 40% Polyphenols 041 Kava Kava Extract 30% Kavalactones 042 Kudzu Root Extract 90% Isoflavones 043 Licorice Extract 12%~26% Glycyrrhizic Acid 044 Mahuang Extract 6%,8% Ephedrines 045 Maitake Mushroom 15%,20% Polysaccharides 046 Milk Thistle Extract 70%, 80% Silymarin 047 Nettle Leaf/Root Extract 1~1.5% Silica 048 Notoginsemg Extract 10% Notoginsenosides 049 Ooling Tea Extract 30% Polyphenols 050 Pine Bark Extract 95% Proanthocyanidins 051 Red Clover Extract 8%/1% Isoflavone/Biochanin A&B 052 Red Yeast Rice Extract 0.4%,5% Lovastatin 053 Reishi Mushroom Extract 6% Polysaccharides /Triterpenoids 054 Rhodiola Extract 40%/1% Polyphenols/Salisorosides 055 Royal Jelly Powder(F/D) 6% 10-HAD 056 Schisandra Extract 9% Schisandrins 057 Senna Leaf Extract 4%,8% Sennosides 058 Shitake Mushroom Extract 6% Polysaccharides 059 Siberian Ginseng Extract 0.8% Eleutherosides B+E 060 Soy Bean Extract 40% Isoflavones 061 St. John's Wort Extract 0.3% Hypericin 062 Stevia Extract 80%, 90% Steviosides 063 Tribulus Fruit Extract 20%~40% Tribulus Saponins 064 Valerian Root Extract 10:1 Valeric Acids 065 Vitex(Chasteberry) Extract 5% Vitexin 066 White Willow Bark Extract 15% Salicin 067 Wild Yam Extract 4%,6%,8%,10%,20% Saponin on Diosgenin More about our products, please visit us in our website: http://www.organic-herb.com If there are any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Wish you all of the best! Sincerely yours, Mr. frank Liu Sales Manager Organic Herb Inc. Phone +86 731 4060828 Mobile +86 135 0746 2863 Fax +86 731 4023669 Email: frank@organic-herb.com website: http://www.organic-herb.com Name: Fernanda Country: usa Comment: I don't smoke and I don't use to drink soda. My dark circles are hereditary. Name: jan Country: england Comment: payal maybe try a different brand of neem becuase you cant trust what they put in some brands i take neem from the website the neem people or neem genie try these brands if you still have a reaction than its to neem i do not think that bleeding is detox and it will prob be v bad if it does not stop Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: It doesnt matter Fernanda , apply it gently and with the tip of your finger; give it time, if you smoke then stop. Ciggeretts make circles worse, as a matter of fact i think most dc come from smoking. After quit smoking for over 3 months they fade away tremendously, keep your head up and dont drink soda . Name: hope Country: england Comment: payal you must have a reaction to neem i would discontinue use imediately Name: sam Country: england Comment: Hi Ash About that cream from whiterskin.com. How bad were your circules and how quickly did you see a result. I've had a look at their site and they don't take credit cards did you send a cheque and how quickly did you get the product. Thanks Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Hey guys I eliminated neem for 1/2 days and my periods stopped and now i started 1 dose of neem today and my periods came back. so it must be that my body is detoxing but i was just wondering how long this kinda detox would last. could i continue drinking neem and keep my mineral levels up. any advice ???? hope??? jan?? Name: rticulate Country: usa Comment: Hey everyone! I'm another D/C sufferer since I can remember, mainly I think by hereditary means. I have tried many different things, but they seem to have a mind of their own with some days better than others. I think there maybe something to the diet theory. The bottom line is that we must learn to accept certain things in life we cannot change and move forward. Yes, looks are important to most of us, but if you have a good personality,and the right attitude it will take you much further than a good looking shallow person. Good luck to all and find inner peace. Name: Fernanda Country: usa Comment: I didn't found Synergy cream but I got Derma E Vitamin A Retinyl Palmitate Wrinkle Treatment Moisturizing Gel, is a bottle of gel. Does it work? Name: hope Country: england Comment: visit a naturopath Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Hope my periods are still ongoing but i dont want to take the tablets. Just wondering how long does this usually last on a detox and what other symptoms should i expect so that i can match them up with my symptoms. Name: ASH Country: india Comment: I ORDERED THE SKIN WHITENING CREAM FROM WHITERSKIN.COM FOR MY DARK CIRCLES AND SOME ACNE MARKS. IT HASNT LIGHTENED THE ACNE MARKS SO MUCH BUT MY DARK CIRCLES ARE GONE!!! TRY IT FOR YOUR SELF Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Fernanada you can get the synergy cream in a vitamin store, or you can order it online keyword Synergy Synergy was the prescription form of Retinol they used in the 70s but now you can get it over the counter, it can be pretty harsh when you first start using it but then it feels better; anyways use the synergy cream along with a vitamin K creme mixed with Horsechestnut it will work wonders . Name: fernanda Country: usa Comment: Where can I get the Synergy cream? Name: Jan Country: england Comment: dont worry about taking the pill loads have ppl have taken it so have i it wont be for long Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Hey guys went to the doc she gave me tablets to take for 21 days and then a week gap and she sed my normal period would come back. she sed i had hormonal imbalance buy i'm not too sure about takin the tablets. Name: hope Country: england Comment: no no tons of foods have minerals! don't fall for the medication. comeon people give her advice i can't be the only one . eat lots of green leafy veg spinach! rosehip tea chard parsely. if you dont have anything go buy parsley is like 50 p in my stores and its huge so no excuses coz im a poor dude lol Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Thanks for the advice guys- i'll go to the doc and ur right i need to get my mineral levels up but how? Is there no natural way to sort this long period otherwise i'll hav to take wat my doc gives me - they hav side effects thats the prob Name: Jan Country: england Comment: I dont think long periods are a detox thing they are a hormone imbalance or maybe the problem is you cant stop bleeding a clot problem or something ive had a really good friend with this problem so i dont think its cos of neem but you should b careful of things you buy from abroad cos you dont know all of whats in them as their restrictions not so strict anyway go see the doc lol Name: hope Country: england Comment: if symptoms don't subside go to the doctors without fail. drink lot's of water. and don't worry about dark circles right now theres more to think about Name: hope Country: england Comment: very true. honestly payal what you need to do is get those iron levels up and fast. because detox or not your losing your minerals. my mum almost died she almost loat all her blood in one horrible period, and you honestly must get checked out and if you can't do that get those minerals down you. Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Remember neem may not agree with everyone internally. We are not medical professionals, we are just submitting info based on personal experiences. Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: I don't know about the long menstruation thing. I personally would stop using neem to see if that is the cause of the irregular bleeding. Let a week or 2 pass and see what happens then try the neem again. Four weeks is a long time! Name: Payal Country: france Comment: wow that sounds great i'm goin thro a change. Hope how do you know that long periods are a sign of detox any reference plz? Name: hope Country: england Comment: you need to keep your iron intake up or you miay go anemic but don't worry about the periods your going through a change Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Lol was that a joke hope? so i'm going to have long periods cos the body is detoxing? is this the way to detox? I'm losing blood man... Name: hope Country: england Comment: ohh also eat lot's of parsley and yams Name: hope Country: england Comment: well then yup you should celebrate it may very well be detox the body releases toxins in many ways Name: Payal Country: france Comment: HOPE: i dont have red clover tea. i dont eat that unhealthily so why is the neem making me have longer periods? is this a sign of detox? Name: hope Country: england Comment: drink red clover tea. it may very well be but if you are not eating healthily during taking neem you will feel worse Name: Payal Country: france Comment: I dont know if this is cos of neem but my periods are lasting for almost 4 weeks now. is this a symptom of detox? plz reply someone Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey jan it's good to do this because foods containing gluten and dairy are high allergens and your dark circles may be nothing more than an allergy to a certain food. remember everyone mentions dark circles are heriditary but! what people don't think ahead on is what allergy did our ancestor have that were doing the same. just something to think about there Name: Jan Country: england Comment: hi hope how come cutting these things out helps? im thinking of doing that, thanks! Name: hope Country: england Comment: if no one wishes to follow the plan then the next best thing you can do is completly cut dairy and also avoid lactic acid lactose and GLUTEN Name: zette2005 Country: canada Comment: pls. help me with my dark circle in me eye. whats the cure? Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Sheena my dc's are still the same but it's only been i think about 2 and a half weeks Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Allergies can be one of the causes for dc's, in my case, I've had dc's way before I ever had allergies. I only started getting allergies in the last 2 years. When I don't have allergies my eyes look much better than when I do have it. But its not the only reason for my dc's. Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Thanx Joberry. Payal are ur dc's getting lighter? Joberry how come u are having allergies- i heard that wen ur dc's go away u get no allergies cos allergies are symptoms of dc's Name: ** i want em gone Country: usa Comment: yahh so i have diabetes and always have dark circles under my eyes i try to get them away but their always their.. no matter how much make up i wear! and i get plenty of sleep! so if anyone knows how to get rid of them and not have to like put potatoes on my eyes every day. i want sumthing that i have to do onece a month r i dotn know but i dont want to waste potatoes and cucumbers on my eyes! so if you know something that works really good tell me! Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: I'll try!!! As I said before, my dc looked almost black before I started with neem, now its brown. Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Joberry is it possible u could find other pics from google images to show how dark ur dc's were originally? Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: The brand is Herbicare. I have never seen it on the internet or anything. They must be a small manufacturer. My dc have gone down about 50%, actually I've had really bad allergies for the last few weeks and I haven't been drinking my neem as I should. When I'm feeling better I will start back in full force. Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Joberry does ur neem have a brand- wat is it? and how much have ur dc's reduced by now? Name: sam Country: england Comment: Hi Spenser you wrote about clinique all about eyes cream but what are the capsules you were taking Name: Spenser Country: england Comment: listin there is a cure for gettin rid of dark circles. Just read this and i assure you you will get rid of the motherfuc*ers. I am 14 and have had dark circles for 1 year now. These are realy bad they are like a semi circle under my eyes that are dark brown they were awful. When i got off for my summer hoildays i was determined to get rid of them. I went on the internet and found out about " Clinque All about eyes ". Clinque All About Eyes is expensive 32euro. I bought 5 tubes and went home. I spent almost 6 hours every night rubbing the cream up and down where my bags were. I mean 5 hours everynight infront of my mirror rubbing the cream vigorously up and down to remove the dark circles. After 3 weeks and 17 capsules of Clinque All About Eyes my dark cirles had almost totally gone. I shit you not. Although this is expensive it worked and my bags are now almost totally gone i only need to do it for another 3 more nights. But be careful not to over rub your eyes as this will lead to red burn marks which i had for 3 days because i didnt apply enough cream when i was rubbin up and down where my dark circles were. I cant belive it my dark circles are almost gone and i can go out in public without trying to shield my face from people. This will work if you continue to do it and put your mind and wallet into it. Rember life is what you make it. Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey panda yup you can eat it raw but it will turn your pooh dark red like blood so don't panick when you go toilet lol Name: Panda Country: england Comment: Hi everybody im starting to eat healthy as poss now to get rid of dc jus wondering can u eat raw beetroot or do u have to cook it? Name: Kitty Country: australia Comment: Hey all! I�m 13, and yes, I have dark circles under my eyes. People tell me that you inherit them from your parents. I am really self conscious about my eyes, and whenever I see a mirror I have the feeling to look in the mirror and see if my circles are noticeable (which they are...) last year my teachers would come up to me and ask me if I have had enough sleep (which I had) and them asking me that, always made me self conscious and quiet. My friends told me that they weren't noticeable, but my friends are great; they would do anything to cheer me up! :) But this year I have spent my time wearing make-up and using cleansing products on my skin 2 daily. So guys, cheer up! There are better things to base your life on then circles! And you see, you aren't the only one in the world with this. there are probably thousands of people with this! Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Lol Joberry!!! Anyway how long has it been now since taking neem. can u see more improvements? Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Sorry that last post is supposed to be from me, not Payal. I meant to put her name in the comment, sorry!!! Name: Payal Country: usa Comment: I think mines lasts longer b/c I don't drink it on weekends...lol and I drink it like 2x a day on most days. I suffer from allergies and when its bad, those days I drink neem like once a day. Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Susan maybe bcos u kept the dried leaves for too long and so their effect was reduced. Name: ******* Country: india Comment: i hav dark circules under my eyes and i want 2 know hw i could get rid of them another way rather than use mashed cucumber Name: susan Country: england Comment: I use 2 cups of leaves per 3 cups of water and also i do extra than that then i drink it 3 times a day (6 cups a day) I have never really eaten junk food i try to be as healthy as possible. They faded a little bit they never totally faded but i could see some improvements Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Joberry how come your 100gm neem lasts over a month when mine looks like its goin to be finished within 15 days. are u sure you take a quarter tablespoon and not a quarter teaspoon 3/4 times a day? Also Susan by how much did your dark circles decrease by? Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Susan how many dried leaves did u use? and how many times in a day? Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: maybe u began having too much junk susan. Name: susan Country: england Comment: No i kept the same dosage which is why i am confused they never faded away completely anyway just a slight improvement Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: so why has the darkness come back? did u reduce the dosage susan? Name: susan Country: england Comment: i got my neem from the neem people and i didnt stop using it i was already drinking double of what tina said but its getting expensive Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Susan why did you discontinue using neem? and if ur using dried leaves just eat more of em. why would they be less effective. i thought they would be more effective. where did u manage to get dried leaves from? Name: susan Country: england Comment: Hi ive been using neem for 4 months and i was seeing some improvements but now the darkness is back a little bit and i dont know what to do i know my neem was less effective because i was using dried leaves Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: My neem last about a little over a month. Sorry Payal I don't know of anyother way of reducing discoloration on your face. As I said the creams I used worked for me Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Go to www.google.com and type in buy neem powder or similar words Name: maz Country: england Comment: helo everyone, can someone please tell me where to find neem powder, ive been looking on the internet for days but cant find it! Name: angelo Country: other Comment: hi everyone good day, can i have a favor, will please give me little tips to remove my dark skin circle under my eye, here is my email address angel_yol@yahoo.com thankz to those people share their knowing about that problem, thank you and god bless... Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Sheena: brand name is hesh and same net weight of 100 gm thanx for the info Joberry but dont want to treat with creams, was looking for an internal solution. Hey Joberry how long does your 100 gm last? i mean number of days Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: The neem I use is in a jar and only states that it is Neem Powder. It doesn't mention any specific way it should be used. I think mine is just pure neem powder. It comes in a jar and is a net weight of 100gm. Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Payal u said ur neem was a hair product wat brand is it? Joberry: wat is ur neem actually meant to be used for? is it also a hair product and wat brand. How many grams in a packet (this question for payal too) Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Payal, I don't think neem will help with the discoloration around your chin/mouth area. I also, did have discoloration in the same area and I use 2 cremes for it and the darkness reduced. If you want to discuss it more email me at joberry28@yahoo.com Name: Mm Country: other Comment: hi jan, beautifol was basicaly saying that there is more important things in the world hope tihs makes it cleare Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Joberry- lol i know this is the 100th question but jus wanted to know did u hav uneven skin tone cos i have a dark area around my chin wonderin if neem will help get rid of it Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Eating 1 chocolate a day or even 1 in 2 days is too much fat consumption for anybody...lol...but I would cut down to about 1 chocolate bar a week or split 1 bar in 2 days. I can't really say if any particular diet will help or reduce the effects of using neem. All I can relate is my experience and what works for me. Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Hey Joberry i love chocolate is that alright 1 a day? or 1 every 2 days? i mean to say did u eat chocolate? Hey where's Jo gone? Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Guys, I eat everything I ate before, I just cut down on junk food (burger, fries, sweets), I do have it once in a while though. Just continue with your regular diet. Sheena: my skin tone is definitely brighter. Shiny would be more on the oily side I think, my skin is clearer or brighter. Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Joberry do u eat biscuits? would i be able to hav biscuits if i found neem? iv always wanted to see what healthy shiny skin looks like. if its clearer does it make it shiny? Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Payal, come to think of it now, yes a couple of times in the begining of my drinking neem there were 1 or 2 tiny pimples that came out, but went away soon thereafter. My skin looks very healthy, it is clearer or I guess its glowing.....lol....seriously, my skin is much better than it has been in the past. I do eat fruits, but not as much as I should, I don't however drink much fruit juices. Do drink lots of water. Name: hope Country: england Comment: if it's a home made fruit juice if not very limited. fruit of course we need fruits they were a gift aswell as vegetables. i don't want to make anyone do anything they do not want to do i just hope i make that clear. you are all human beings you have your own minds i can't make it up for you. im sorry Name: Panda Country: england Comment: Joberry and hope jus wondering do you eat fruit or fruit juices? Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Joberry is your skin healthy now and does it glow/ shine? Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Hey thanx Joberry n also did u see a couple of those pus spots come out on ur face? Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Payal, yes I did, and after a few days I was fine. I guess it's cleansing your body, you should be fine after your system gets accustomed to it. Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Joberry did u get diarrhoea first couple of times u used neem? Name: hope Country: england Comment: http://www.indiaparenting.com/beauty/beauty0043book.shtml a higher power is you finding yourself your balance of nature. if you are an argumentative person then this shows bad karma. if you do wrong and then don't admit it. this is just an example. the purer you are the more dark circles will be non existant. look in qigong but not for the physical for the true true centering and cleaning. im sorry your leaving j'd i feel this place is finally a friendly place now just remember this site has been here for years and years and the old comments cannot be deleted Name: J.D. Country: canada Comment: WHAT A WASTE OF TIME!! Everyone entering this site is suppose to be looking for a remedy to solve a common problem. Yet, most, instead of reading the comments, prefer to just verbalize their whining and complaints. While the individuals that do read, use the info as leverage to attack anothe writer, who is only voicing their personal experience and/or opinion to address the issue on hand. At the same time, there's also a small group that do nothing but bicker and feud among themselves. Thank you! Moving on to a more serious site!! Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Hi guys will keep u all updated. can anyone tell me how exactly to get to this site i mean this discussion board through indiaparenting.com cos i hav to type it in google. also my neem is goin fine now though i do get diarrhoea in the morning but funno why Name: Sall Country: england Comment: ok hope but what do you mean by higher power? Im confused. Thanks for all the help you guys Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Sorry, I don't have a scanner to put pix on the net and honestly, I'll be too embarrassed if anyone I know see's my dc's (without makeup...lol), it sure is an ugly sight. Name: hope Country: england Comment: you must discover a higher power i cannot advise this only you can. as for the food plan yes it works but it takes time and patience Name: Jan Country: england Comment: Speak in english not slovenia or whatever! lol Name: beautifol Country: other Comment: Ni mi ve� mar za moje temne podo�njake, na svetu je �e ogromno stvari ki so mnogo bolj pomembne od te male lepotne napake, in zelo mi je �al da sem to spoznala �ele zdaj, �e bi prej ne bi toliko �asa posvetila temu da se jih znebim...hvala bogu da sem se veliko bolj za�ela zavedati notranje lepote in notranjega zdravja:) Name: Sall Country: england Comment: Hope does the diet really work my main worry is going on a diet for ages if it does not work, can you show before and after pics? Can joberry? Name: hope Country: england Comment: neem is not for everyone i really can't stress that enough. excess will make you sick. it is designed for people with a good digestive tract, if yours is weak then this is only going to make a fast detox too rapid for you to handle. alternatives are tea's for thy liver. dandelion rosehips red clover thyme rosemary stuff like this is very good. dark circles are all about the internal. fix that and even the thin skin on your eyes thickens enough to make the circles fade and increase blood flow to your cheeks aswell as eyes. when you see a glow in your skin without any acne or skin dosrders know that you are close to reaching abundent health :) Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Hey Joberry are you vegetarian and wat do you snack on during the day? Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Kitty capsules should also work cos i think somone sed that b4. My neem powder is actually used for the hair but it's pure neem powder so i am using it to drink it to get rid of these awful dc's. Hey Joberrry thanx. id do anything for these dc's to go away. any other tips would be helpful Name: RNA Country: other Comment: I share the disappointment with all coz' I did try it all..Creams, good sleep, lots of water, & by the way it's not a heritage.And the result is just a waste of time.So kindly give us something useful to work out not just B.S....Thank you Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Payal I use about 1/4 tblspoon mixed in about a 1/2 cup of water, then I drink lots of water after to get the taste out of my mouth. I have never experienced any type of pain or discomfort. If you feel sick, then by all means discontinue using it. Name: kitty Country: dubai Comment: payal can you tell me from where did you find it i just found capsules,please and send to us if it works for you Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Also Joberry is it normal to feel sick and have kind of like stomach aches plz definitely answer my previous question Name: Payal Country: france Comment: hey i found neem i'm so happy! But joberry it tastes hell i felt so sick afterwards. did u take a qyarter teaspoon or a quarter tablespoon? Name: su-lynn Country: usa Comment: oh by the way, go under cleansing for the two-day detox diet on the website.. once again it is www.ardensgarden.com, i hope it works for ya'll. plus, i don't feel that putting on creams is gonna help, it's all about what's going on on the inside of your body..our faces are results of what we do to ourselves on the inside.. drink loads of water everyday, take care of yourself..you got one body and and one face...treat yourself good... it's time don't ya think? Name: su-lynn Country: usa Comment: oh by the way, go under cleansing for the two-day detox diet on the website.. once again it is www.ardensgarden.com, i hope it works for ya'll. plus, i don't feel that putting on creams is gonna help, it's all about what's going on on the inside of your body..are faces are results of what we do to ourselves on the inside.. drink loads of water everyday, take care of yourself..you got one body and and one face...treat yourself good... it's time don't ya think? Name: su-lynn Country: usa Comment: i had terrible dark circles as well, i found out it was from a few years of debauchery, since i'm only in my 20's, i do a lot of partying, smoking and drinking..to get rid of circles, you gotta quit smoking pure and simple... if ya can't do that try this detox diet at www.ardensgarden.com...i know these locations are only in atlanta, ga, but hey, maybe you can buy the stuff at a whole foods or a grocery store where they sell juice of fruit that is all natural..(no sugars, preservatives..)or whatever...anyway it's a detox diet where for two days you drink this grapefruit, orange, and lemon juice combination, mixed with water..you got to finish a liter of it the first day and the same with the next day...no smoking, drinking, or eating anything else...i've tried this and it really works. honestly, i got hella bitchy, but at the end of the two days i felt like i had more energy and my skin was gangster...(really clear, no circles, nothing...) check it out, it might work for you..laters. Name: M Country: usa Comment: i have dark circles but where do u find vitamin e?? Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: My father has dc, I always had them, but for the last 10+ years or so they became more prominent. So yes, they were inherited. Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: so ur dark circles werent inherited joberry? Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: I have no idea if neem capsules will help as the product itself. Sheena: I'm 30 (a young looking 30, I might add....lol). I hope whoever decides to try neem gets the same positive results as I did. Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: how old are you joberry? thanxs a lot and keep us all updated u hav bought hope for us all. Name: kitty Country: dubai Comment: Jobbery, can we use neem capsules instead of neem powder,. Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Eat whatever you want, rice,meat, vegetables, bread, pasta, as I said limit yourself on the junk food. Name: xxxxxxxx Country: other Comment: instead of neem a herb called manjistha can be used which is also a v. good blood purifier. try looking for this. same dose needed and same effects will be seen. hope this helps Name: Payal Country: france Comment: what do ur 3 meals usually consist of? Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Payal: I hope this method works for you. You won't see any difference until about a month a so, so don't be discouraged and don't let it be a hassel or a chore. Only use as much neem as you can drink, don't let the mixture be too bitter where you can't consume it or gag. This way, you'll enjoy drinking it and only drink it 2-3 times a day, if you happen to miss a day, don't worry. I just completed 3 months of using neem and my skin looks great. Good luck to you and do keep us posted on your progress. Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: I am not on any diet. I eat regular meals. I don't however, eat much junk food or sweets. I eat 3 meals a day (or more). Also I don't drink carbonated beverages, but thats by choice, so I think if u just limit yourself to your "junk food" intake, you should be fine. Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Joberry may i ask wat is ur usual daily eating routine. i just want to figure out how much junk u eat and still had success with neem so that i can adjust my diet to that when using neem. I have phoned up an ayurvedic practioner who says he has is it so guys try phoning up ayurvedic practitioners for neem or u can buy it from www.nutricentre.com i think u hav to be livin in england for that one. thanks joberry Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: I have no idea if neem oil will work (externally of course..lol) as I have not tried it myself, but it wouldn't hurt you to try. Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Joberry thanx for the info also do u think neem oil will help? Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Payal, I don't know if all indian stores sell neem, I guess you can ask them to get it if they don't currently sell it. It may come in a container or clear plastic bag and should clearly state that it's neem. I wouldn't buy any product that doesn't state what it is and I have no idea where the seller would store the product, that you would have to ask the seller. Sheena: Before, I was able to cover my dc with dermablend, but it still showed. My dc's were almost black. Dermablend is an excellent product, but it only helped me to an extent. Now that my dc have reduced, dermablend covers it almost completely (I also use a little plain brown eyeshadow that blends with my skin tone and loose powder). I've had my dc's for more than 10yrs. Now my dc's are brown, not black. Hope this helps. Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: joberry u said earlier in the forum that b4 u could cover ur dark circles with makeup so then they couldnt hav been that dark. were they brown? and how long uv had em for? Name: Payal Country: france Comment: Joberry can u get neem from any indian store and do they have it in a white see through pack? does it clearly state neem and wat would it be near. thanx for info Name: hope Country: england Comment: no rice email me for more info Name: Confused Country: england Comment: Hope can you eat rice on this plan? Name: Shalini Country: england Comment: has anyone tried SAFI- blood purifier ayurvedic stuff Name: Jan Country: england Comment: yeah think it is you will have to buy it by credit or debit card its not dodgy or anything because i already did it but if you want to knoww more about the diet you will have to buy it but you may find it worth the money good luck! Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Jan would cod be allowed and if yes then is there any other way i can purchase the book other than with a credit card? Name: Jan Country: england Comment: you can have fruit in moderation so i guess not as strict as hopes also you can have some fish Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Lol Jan! Jan is hope's diet more strict than the lady's diet in the darkcirclesundereyes.com can u hav fruit in it? Name: xxxxxxxxx Country: dubai Comment: i hate my dark cercles. its ugly my uplips very drak. plzzzzzzzz tell waht to do. can i do any treatment to fair my uplips. Name: Jan Country: england Comment: Brush them Name: ? Country: southafrica Comment: how do u get white teeth? Name: Shalini Country: england Comment: has anybody tried SAFI? seema u mentioned it before on this page did it work? Name: Jan Country: england Comment: Yeah i did buy it i didn't think it was as useful as the other e-book but it has some good herbal recipes to try depending on the problem. Most the books suggestions though are going on an elimination diet etc. Name: john siphead Country: usa Comment: i'm struggling with acne how can i get rid of this problem."oh year" proactive Name: PJ Country: england Comment: This raw foodist diet sounds weird like a load of bible bashing! Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey confused thats great news you can have cinnamon yup and you can have almonds and hazelnuts and walnuts. jo great hearing from you sorry i havn't been on been very busy with stuff. you can have apples now and stick to the same plan and you can add more nuts like i said to confused here :) Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: i thought u bought it jan Name: Confused Country: england Comment: HI Jus wondering is that why neem is good then? Its anti-fungal and all these things just wondering if good for parasites n stuff also hope im gonna start that plan can u tell me plz if i can eat these foods: cinamon, nuts of all types, rice? Thanks!! Name: Jan Country: england Comment: i can't really just buy it if you want it! Name: lisa Country: india Comment: to lightin dark circles grat a patato or cut in in thin slices and put on under eyes i have never tried this but freind have and it works for them bye Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Jan- can u give us some tips from the book plz Name: Jan Country: england Comment: how do you get rid of parasites? Name: josie Country: australia Comment: hi just been erading through some of the entries and i would just like to say that parasite infection is a cause of dark circles. i got my after getting dystentry. other symptoms include bloatede\ belly, loose stools and feeling tired alot. take care of yourselves peace! Name: xxxxxxxxxxx Country: singapore Comment: lora= nataliii Name: xxxxxxxxxxx Country: singapore Comment: lora= nataliii Name: lora Country: thailand Comment: Thank you Joberry ,i'll try to get it but i wish that you are keeping in touch and tell us about your progressing,kind regards Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: lora: the neem I use is the dried leaves smashed into a powder form. Name: lora Country: thailand Comment: OH ,joberry please can you tell me if you drink the dried leaves,or the the tea or what is that the pwoder form you drink is it the leavs which smashed or what ,i would be thankful if you reply,,, Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: I wish I could show you guys a before and after picture, but I don't have a scanner..lol, I know it sounds primitive. Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Hi guys, no way am I offended that people have other opinions...lol. This is something thats working for me, my dc have diminished close to 50% and I'm not exaggerating, this morning I looked at my face after washing up and I am ecstatic about the results I'm getting. July 24th made it exactly 3 months since I've been drinking neem. You know, for me, drinking neem a couple times a day is not taking any energy away from me. I drink it like 2x a day now and sometimes 1x on the weekend. As I said before, there are no specific rules to follow. Even if I have to drink it once everyday for the rest of my life to keep these horrid dc away, I will. It's a little price to pay to keep my dc away....lol....and I'm sure if someone gets the same results with creams, they will continue using it for as long as they should. So guys, whatever works best for you, you should just stick with that regime. Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Jan any tips u could share with us from the book plz. Any recommended foods to eat or any miracle drinks to make. cant buy it dont hav credit card. Thanks loads Name: ZAP Country: usa Comment: http://www.homemademedicine.com/home_remedies_for_dark_under_eye_circles.html This book also claims to get rid of dark circles and is only on offer until 26th July so if anyone wants to buy it buy it now for i think its 30 dollars. It looks good. Link is above n good luck. i feel so lucky i dont hav dark circles. Name: Jan Country: england Comment: Hi Jo i brought the e-book from http://www.homemademedicine.com/home_remedies_for_dark_under_eye_circles.htm hope is it correct taht info? Name: lora Country: thailand Comment: OH hi sheena ya the auther said that she drank 2 capsules of neem twice a day i asked her but she also mentioned the diet plus the exercises also, but i dont know about the diet because i didnt buy the book ,,about joberry i dont know exactly what did he mean about the powder form ,and how much did he drink he didnt say,but sheena tell me are you going to do diet??but if you are originally from india try to drink it,,,and see you wouldnt loose anything but i dont know i'm not sure its according to tina and joberry Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Lora- did the author say that she only drank neem or with the diet and if so how much e.g. joberry takes a quarter of a spoon each time 3 times a day. Name: lora Country: thailand Comment: Joberry be happy i asked the writer of the book and she also said that she used to drink neem twice aday and it worked to her as it working for you and hopefully for others,,,so please keep updating us about your improvment Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hi hope- jus wanted to know whether i can hav no fruit at all not even some fruits plz list if any and jan which website did u get that info from plz thanks Name: Jan Country: england Comment: Hi just wondering is it true that if dark circles are blue/green then its the liver, purple then the heart and black then its the kidneys just saw it on a website Name: lora Country: thailand Comment: Jobbery i have a question for you i'm not against neem because the the writer of the book(www.darkcirclesundereyes) is also recommended,so about the powder form that you bought is espeacilly for drinking or for other use? and how much did your dark circles have minimized until now???dont be sad from other comments because people have driffent opinions,,, Name: muffin Country: australia Comment: i have dark circles under my eyes and i think my brother is geting hem 2 but my parents dont have them...is it due to wearing contact lenses cuz i wear contacts...should i stop wearing them and go bac to just glasses. i am realli self contious and have a low self esteem but my friends say i dont realli show it. pls help i need help fast!!! Name: Jan Country: england Comment: hey derm you keep saying different creams are sure to work is this combination the real deal? What about hylexin? Also (i know this sounds like a dumb question so don't laugh) how comes vita k works for dark circles when it is used in the liver? Thanks a lot for your help derm bye Name: Confused Country: england Comment: Well i basically eat a balnced diet lots of fruit, veg, also eat rice, chocolate., fish and salad dressings my dark circles get very bad around the time of my period and i have had chronic diarrhoea and dc all my life :( Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: I just wanted to respond to (Question) , please dont confuse retina a for retinyl even though they are very similarly alike Retinyl palmitate thickens the skin and gets rid of wrinkles it doesnt lead to any process to the point where your skin begins to thin cause then there would be no point of even buying the cream. Retinyl Palmitate based creams come in day cream forms so it is safe to use during the day when the sun is out and they also come in night creams also but anyways i just wanted to say that Retinyl Palmitate is good for your circles combined with vitamin K and i know this for a fact cause ive been using this combination for a week and one day and my circles have decreased by 50% i also use a C vitamin called C-Light wich evens out the skin and takes away dark spots naturally by Jason Natural Cosmetics and the vitamin K is also by Jason Natural Cosmetics and it comes with HorseChestnut i use a Retinyl based cream called Synergy i use the vitamin k and synergy together during the day and before i go to sleep. i use the C-light mostly in the morning or just dab it on here and there but im telling you all it is working really good and ive done alot of research on the internet to find out that vitamin K and Retinyl is the most powerful and best solution to get rid of the circles and it will also get rid of wrinkles too it pretty much makes your whole eye area really strong once you got to the point were your circles are gone you just keep using the creams to keep your eyes strong so theyll never come back even if you missed a day of sleep they will always stay the same. Anyways Joeberry i hope maybe you can try the combination cause i believe in it as far as neem goes i think it could work if you drink alot of it but then youd be drinking that stuff all your life and who wants to drink a load of that stuff everyday anyways its like your doing too much work you know what i mean. Im outta here talk to you all later PEACE Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: wat foods do u eat confused (england)? Name: hope Country: england Comment: confused sure it's what i want to do for everyone. try a 100% raw vegan diet for a few weeks the plan is further down this page Name: Confused Country: england Comment: Hi is Jo still on here? Are your dc fading? Can derm or hope supply some before and after pics thanx. And also hope you say digestion is the cause my digestion is terrible the worst in the family but im the healthiest eater can u help me? Name: hope Country: england Comment: very good info let me add you do not want to use any unatural products on your skin. use herbs and fruit and veg on your skin and 100% into your diet Name: Question Country: india Comment: I found this: There can be one or several reasons together which may contribute to a darkened or sunken look. These include a lack of sleep, iron or other vitamin deficiencies, sickness (sinus infections in particular), hyperpigmentation, excessive vascularization (due to medications such as Retin A), visible blood vessels due to fast loss, thin, aging skin or hereditary thinness or superficial vessels and fat loss in general which causes a sunken look. In general temporary dark under eye circles may indicate a state of poor health or exhaustion. More persistent under eye circles (undereye) are more likely the result of genetic tendencies such as hyperpigmentation as is often seen in ethnic persons such as persons of Indian decent. Hyperpigmentation or excessive vascularization (due to medications such as Retin A): Many times when this is the case, vessels can be removed or "zapped" using various lasers or even intense pulsed light. Visible blood vessels due to fast loss, thin, aging skin or hereditary thinness or superficial vessels may be the culprit. You want to be careful not use a fade cream like hydroquinone if this is the case... Name: hope Country: england Comment: or on a more serious note it translates into. IM NOT WELL CAN'T YOU SEE YOU CAN'T KEEP FEEDING ME LIKE THIS I CAN'T COPE. IM NOT DESIGNED TO EAT THESE UNATURAL FOODS WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO SEE IF YOU DON'T LET ME CLEAN Name: hope Country: england Comment: i would say it's all about digestion quite abit basically if a junk food eater doesn't have circles or acne it's most prob because thier digestion is very good nether the less. there is no such things as heridtary dark circles. it's a myth that must be ignored. dark circles acne are an external message you receive and this translates into. give the right food or ill make you UGLY MWAHAHHAHAH lol Name: hope Country: england Comment: jobbery yup but a lot of people will drink gallons of it a day and then it will make them sick ive witnessed it. your sensible so you will be fine but if you look up information about neem it has this warning Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Derm: good to hear that your dark circles are decreasing. Hope: as for neem causing vomitting, I have not experienced that. You drink as much as you can handle, obviously you're not going to drink neem to the point of throwing up. I see a couple of solution for dark circles are being proposed now, I hope one works for you guys. Name: Question Country: india Comment: I MEANT TO SAY: But to say that all cooked food is the culprit is inaccurate otherwise everyone in the world would suffer from this problem. Name: Question Country: india Comment: I don't think eating junk food or meat is the cause of dark circles, it is caused by a number of facotrs, hereditary, lack of sleep, exhaustion. I know people who work nights and don't have dark circles. This is the first time I've heard that food is the cause of dark circles. Maybe by eating certain foods might clean out your insides, hence, helping to eliminate darkness in your skin. But to say that all cooked food is the culprit is accurate otherwise everyone in the world would suffer from this problem. For most people it is hereditary, if u look at indian women they are most prone to having dc. People of white decent hardly suffers from dc and they eat the most junk food, oils and fatty foods. Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey butterfly well yup a raw diet will do you whole lot better ill give you all a tip do not eat after 6pm. if you give your digestion a rest then your sleep gets undisturbed and you wake up feeling more fresh. over time circles will fade that way. after 6 or till 8pm after those times no snacking no biting just drinking your teas or whatever you drink hopefully not soft drinks because they wreak havoc. butterfly if you have msn we can talk one on one im online as of now dental_floss_eat_yum@hotmail.com that goes for everyone whoever wants to talk now is a good time for me :) Name: Butterfly Country: mexico Comment: Hope your point is super right ,but did you think about most people who have dark circles are inhertied which means in our genes!if we do diet we wouldn't loose anything in the future,about me i have a lot of exams i eat a lot of bread,cheese,spegettii,alot of chicken,sometimes meat not much veg.so if i want to do diet shall i abandon all that? for me its tourture and i wouldn't concentrate``� will give up Hope this problem is big big (....)i dont want to think about it ,thank you all Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey confused can you give me guideline of what you eat in the week. maybe i can pinpoint if your allergic to one thing. Name: Confused Country: england Comment: I have never eaten junk food i hate it! And i have had this problem since i was a baby Name: Confused Country: england Comment: hope i am the healthiest eater in my family no junk and lots of fruit and veg but i am the only one in my family with dark circles? Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Dear room, ive been in this room preaching about hylexin and alot of people got annoyed well put that aside and listen up cause i got something for all of you that ive been using. Actually its not just one things its a combination of several creams and the combination has been explosive in getting rid of the dark circles. Ive been using this retinyl cream called Synergy along with a vitamin K cream combined with Horsechestnut during the day and at night. In the morning i use this cream called C light its a light cream so it doesnt bother you much. But those key vitamins combined will help you dramatically. the REtinyl has been thickening my skin and with the vitamin k with horsechestnut have lightened them up so you can see how it takes the circles away. the C light blends skin together but i dont know how good my credibility is anymore with the room. But i hope someone in this room will try cause ive done alot of research on this And found that they did a study on the combination of Vitamin A (Retinyl Palmitate) Vitamin K , Vitamin C and Vitamin E all combined have had a significant appearance on dark circles and it is true but the only thing is that i dont use vitamin E cause i bought the oil form and i dont want them to get inside this small wrinkle i have under my right eye cause im trying to make it dissappear and it will but nevertheless the capillaries under my eyes have gotten strong and my eyes are looking really good and to imagine ive been using the combination of these creams for only a week and ive gotten pretty damn good results. i know it will work for you people and i hope you will try it even if it is someone who wil give me the benefit of the doubt cause i know if one person trys it they will spread the word for me. cause i want us all to be happy and circle clear. like i said before i am using Synergy it is a form of Retinyl Palmitate also known as vitamin A also vitamin K Creme Plus Jason Natural Cosmetics makes it and it comes with Horse Chestnut also i use those two creams combined together but i put the Synergy on first then the vitamin K during the afternoon and at night when i go to bed. And in the morning i use C-Light skin tone balancer and it is also made by Jason Natural Cosmetics this stuff is not hard to come by atleast not in the USA so to all the people in the US you can find it in Vitamin Stores that sell creams with vitamins in them and for all the other people you can find alternative Creams but just make sure they are the key vitamins and make sure it is a REtinyl Palmitate cause that is the strongest Retinyl out there that you can buy without a prescription and does very well indeed being it is an over the counter product (Synergy) is what i use . I now dont consider the factor that a clean system has to do with the dark circles. You have to think of your dark circles as bruises that cannot heal themselves by themselves and not no ordinary cream is gonna help them but special creams designed for undereye the ones i just told you. Once you have healed the bruise you just keep maintaining using the creams but with smaller doses . Anyways im gonna go now i hope to get some feedback on this cause i know this will help everyone and within a week will decrease your circles by atleast 35 percent but for me it feels like 50 but i will use a lower number for your results cause i know people are skeptical anyways gonna go now write feedback and will talk to all of you soon Name: hope Country: england Comment: if you don't get a proper patient detox fullfilled then you can just turn to hylexin because thats the closest you will ever get to at least hiding them. there is no patience and i bet whoever goes on detox they think its all over and done with after a week lol and then it's back to macdonalds or wherever people go. and then they get depressed and say thier lives are a mess and they have all these problems. i personally was exactly like all of you. i was a junk food eater and i loved it. but when you find out what all those sweets crisps pizzas etc have caused, it's a horrible revealtion. im only 18 so im lucky to be able to clean out in a shorter time. for people who are maybe in their late 20's 30's only a raw food diet can detoxify you as best as it can. it would take at least 2 years for me it's going to be about a year. when i smell meat or anything cooked it literally almost makes my stomoch turn because you realise how disgusting what you have been eating has really been like. there are no quick fixes AND SERIOUSLY THAT NEEDS TO BE KNOWN. THERE ARE NO QUICK FIXES. no matter what people say. herbs need a cleaned out body to work properly. you cannot drink neem and eat cooked lifeless foods and thrive. it's just not going to happen you may see slight improvments but really for you people you want it to be 100% improvement and that takes patience like going back to school to learn the real way of eating. please people understand there are no quick fixes except a fake product that hides them and then the product absorbs into your skin and poisons your system. cucumber works but again your only treating the external. you can stop acne dark circles all problems all at once in one easy but long journey'd way. it's up to you lot to decide but i have done my research and this really is the bottom line Name: hope Country: england Comment: neeem in excess will cause vommiting practically every junk food eater has dark circles. aswell as acne and other troubles i mean seriously what do you people expect. is pasta a real food? if anyone answers yes to that ill cry Name: Butterfly Country: mexico Comment: Oh youssif i have same problem as yours,until now the medical researches didn't find any solution,but some people recommended to do diet and others to drink neem ,for me i can't do diet because i have a lot of studies and exams and the results of drinking neem is still totaly in dark because people in this room started recently to drink it and personaly i dont know much about it but you can ask about it,,,,so until now nothing new its just a new day of hope ,,,,bye Name: allatonce Country: other Comment: Im considering surgery coz have DC puffy eyes and their getting worse. One worry if successful can they come back Name: Question Country: india Comment: If junk food and other types of food is the cause of getting dark circles, wouldn't everyone suffer from it? Name: youssef Country: other Comment: i think my probleme is diferenti have the same problem under my eyes( dark circel) my father suffers the same problem but brother and sister in a degree less not incisively prominent...... is there a solution for this Hereditary circle eyes .can i use the simple solution even it's hereditary... Name: raccoonboy Country: singapore Comment: eat vit k/iron, sleep and pray Name: hope Country: england Comment: im sorry but to get rid of your circles in a month is a load of rubbish unless they didn't have them because of internal problems( eg lack of sleep ). you will just have to accept that neem herbs anything claiming to help. none of these things will help you quickly because you are toxic from junk food. if you do not want to go raw then you may aswell accept your circles forever. thats the bottom line sorry if it sounds horrible. however if you take neem with a cleane body thats going through detox ill say no more just work it out. food isn't for enjoyment life is food is the fuel to give you your life. Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: I'm jus tryin to say that the author of the book darkcirclesundereyes.com claims to get rid of dark circles within a month and through your diet it will take longer. Sorry i havent bought the book but Al said she recommends neem. I hope somebody could buy the book and share the info too. Name: lora Country: thailand Comment: How are you sheena,did you buy this book(www.darkcirclesundereyes)?please can you tell me what did she recommended ?did she recommend neem? i couldn't buy it i don't have cridet card i'm just 17 years and my mother refused to buy it for me ,,,, Name: hope Country: england Comment: or just clean out from all toxins slowly and perfectly and all the problems go at once how about that? f you can't wait half a year then your going to go nowhere im not being rude im stating the obvious Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: it took half a yr to get 50% dark circles down. thats way too long. its better to jus drink neem and get rid of your dark circles or follow the darkcirclesundereyes.com book Name: hope Country: england Comment: half a year so people really must not expect it to go down any sooner. if you have abused your body for years expect a big healing crisis after a while of eating raw food. talk to jo he is doing very well :D ive explained to jo how long it will take to clean out. it makes me laugh when people say they are fully cleaned out of years of junk in their colons in say 3 days.. maybe through colonics and fasting. fasting is great but not at the begining so get those greens down because they are the true cure. chicory, spinach, romaine, celery, chard, etc eat eat eat and defeat the disease Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: HOPE- How long did it take for your dark circles to go down by 50%- how many weeks/months Name: hope Country: england Comment: oh and jo all dark green leafy veggies dude every type you can eat even dandelion and nettles their everywhere Name: hope Country: england Comment: yup you can eat spinach. stop calling this plan a diet! it really isn't you are incorrect. my circles hmm well im in the same boat as you people but yup they have deff faded. 50% mine are like bruises blue and purpley Name: Panda Country: england Comment: hi hope if i folow this diet can i eat spinach? Name: Jan Country: england Comment: Hey hope did you have dark circles? How mush have they faded by? Thanks a lot i really neeed an incentive to do this! Name: Jan Country: england Comment: Im sorry i have tried but i cant eat this boring diet its so depressing argh! And why are fish so bad for us? I read over and over how good oily fish are so why are they bad? Im not having a go im just confused i dont want to eat rabbit food i hate all that stuff Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Has Al gone? Name: hope Country: england Comment: you can use normal lawn grass it has the most minerals ever Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope is it ok to dirnk wheatgrass juice- can u pick em from ur garden? they are the ones in the grass right? Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey minteen awesome yup it sure is great to go overbaord on these gifts from god Name: minteen Country: england Comment: guys pick dandelion greens add them to your salads go crazy it is a green leafy veg and their free grab grab grab . i add mine to smoothies it's perfect eat as much as you like along with other veggies you can eat the yellow flower tops green leaves as sald also and the root as medicinal tea. really we have a savior here so pick while they still exist :D Name: Butterfly Country: mexico Comment: Why Jan did you try the neem and get good result or do you want to try it but you are not sure? Joberry tried it and get result i mean in this chat room,and many people recommended,,,,, Name: Jan Country: england Comment: hi i just want to know who are these ppl who tried neem and saw no results? Plz tell us if it did not work for you! Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope how exactly do i make nettle tea. Shall i get a bunch of nettle and pour warm water over it and how many mins after do i strain the thing? Name: hope Country: england Comment: i move the plan in stages different every few weeks. at the end of day you have to ask yourself do you want to clean out the toxins or let them multiply forever? Name: Jan Country: england Comment: But its not a 2 week diet its a year sure for 2 weeks i can but a year? NO way! WHat if its not successful but i have a question can you eat raw beetroot? Bruce how did the surgery go?? Name: hope Country: england Comment: no chocolate yup mung sprouts not sure about lentils Name: Jo Country: england Comment: can i hav sprouted mung beans and lentils? also can i hav cocoa choc now? Name: hope Country: england Comment: sprouted grains yup nuts hmm not yet sorry. only sporuted oats buckwheat allowed and quinoa Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope can i hav nuts and sprouted grains in this first part of the program Name: hope Country: england Comment: sure lora here it is againgo on a strict 2 week diet will you do it? basically doing research i have found that parasites living in our bodies from eating dead foods meat etc are responsible for our dark circles and most other problems. acne ring a bell anyone? as they are in our colon which is where death begins by the way. here is your plan. mix it around as much as you want .......... make ginger tea eat raw garlic with your salads eat raw leaks and raw onions drink rosehip tea drink nettle tea + dandelion if you can make your own from the garden by all means do so this includes catnip nettle dandelion mint spearmint eat some raw hot peppers with your salads experiment sauces. eat as many green leafy veggies as possible avoid carrots they are not as good as you think those with candida may understand what i mean. include lot's of cucumber. drink thyme tea very important expels them. right now make pumkin seed milk loads of pumkin seeds + water ( not distilled or tap ) blend together add some honey to taste. make regular tea using this milk not! dairy. notice i have not meantioned fruit once! there is a reason for this and that we need to remineralise our bodies first and i say this because most of what you are eating that is healthy is not being absorbed right now because your body is too full of toxins and mcdonalds . and going on my alkaline plan will not only destroy most parasites but it will begin detoxification from not eating anything dead or cooked. you may feel abit weak at times abit of nausia but! this is perfectly natural and you must not stop once you begin this. you will notice your skin improve which will contribute dark circles. you will have days of endless energy. you will have days of lot's of bowel movement very important! eat beets seeds of all kinds except fruit of course. drink plenty of ginger tea naturally if you can. thyme also. make your pumkin seed milk. experiment with the natural herbs + veggies god gave us carrots are not really natural avoid them in this plan not a single thing must be don wrong or you wil lnot see any imporvements . the fruit is our treat when we have cleaned our bodies thoroughly. some may never want to eat cooked foods again when they see benefits that is absolutly fine. eating raw food is the best thing one can do for themself. it is a doorway of true health. phoo i wrote loads lol. and now you know that this plan will alakalize you kick starting your natural healing. i promise if you follow this something will change in you good afternoon :) Name: lora Country: thailand Comment: GOOD evening or morning Hope can you describe the raw programme for me i really want to follow it i click on www.rawfood.com but i didn't understand anything. Name: hope Country: england Comment: the way i do it is to think of how many benefits i will receive going raw and how detox will change your whole life for the better Name: hope Country: england Comment: i made a promise something will change following this. jo's skin has improved. anyone else trying this out? Name: hope Country: england Comment: it's not a diet it's a clean out :) it may be boring but you have to clean house because if you don't you will always have these problems. Name: Jan Country: england Comment: Hi hope i just don't think i can stick to that diet its so boring how do you do it? Name: jane Country: usa Comment: So, if i will drink soya milk than will my dark circels loking a hundert time worse?:( Name: hope Country: england Comment: soya may make bad circles 100 times worse sorry jane type soya articles in google you will see Name: jane Country: usa Comment: does soya milk help for dark circels around eyes? Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope- jus wonderin why i cant hav soya milk Name: Sheena Country: dubai Comment: Has Al gone? Name: tyrone Country: england Comment: hey just wondering how everythings goin bruce............ ive been checking out the london laser clinic as well ........... bit worried though ......... hope everythings working out.......... please keep us updated. cheers Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Well, as I said in my previous posts. I started drinking neem at the end of April, so it has been about 2 1/2 months. I take about a 1/4 spoon of neem and dilute in a cup of water and drink (to me, its bitter), but you can use more if you wish. Way down in this message board Tina said to drink it really bitter. But I drink as much as I can handle. I do repeat the process about 3-4 times a day. I noticed my dc getting better about a month after I started. My process is slower maybe because I don't drink it as strong as I should and sometimes on the weekend I skip it altogether. It's not a ritual, if you skip it a day or two, there aren't any conseqences. So far about 30% of my dc have disappeared. I'm hoping to go down to 60% in the next few months and continue drinking neem until my dc has vanished completely. I will keep you guys updated. Name: xxxxxxxx Country: singapore Comment: Oh my god now natalie back with the name of &&&&& and gentleman. Oh no not again! Name: &&&& Country: other Comment: Waaaaw,joberry comes back,it's amazing ,can you tell me when did you start to drink neem? and why your dark circles have just diminished just 30% dose neem help 30 procent out of 100? waiting to answer me Name: Gentleman Country: other Comment: OH,my god thank's god that you respond,and said that you don't do any diet coz i adore food,but i'll try it i respect hope plan and i think she is right i actully have brown circles and they are increasing day after day ,and i'm glad to hear that neem is working out some how ,i want exactly to tell me how do you drink it and when did you realize that the dark circles have decreased ? Name: hope Country: england Comment: thats cool :D do what makes you feel best. one ting i love doing is sprouting seed very good for you. Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: I'm not a raw food type of person. I like eating my favorite foods. I do eat healthy, but I also don't deprive myself. Name: hope Country: england Comment: maybe jobbery if you changed the way you eat and everything it could speed up raw foods isn't a diet it really is our way to eat Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey gentlemen well basically a raw food diet is the way to go if you go www.rawfood.com this is a great start to look at Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Hey guys, I didn't abandon this site, I was pretty busy these last few days and didn't have time to log on. Anyway, I inherited dc from my father, however, my sisters do not have them. My circles have decreased by atleast 30%, it's decreasing slowly, but hey, I have alot of patience after putting up with this problem for 10+ years. I also used dermablend cover stick (bronze for dark complexion), it covers my dc perfectly. And yes, I'm still drinking neem and I am not on any type diet. Name: Gentleman Country: other Comment: Thank you HOPE,but please can you tell me step by step the diet programme& when i do the diet then and drink neem do i have to do that in my whole life?? and did you try that before? or do we have different pattern in our genes so it depends because i don't think that joberry and tina did a diet programme ,i hope you can tell me Name: hope Country: england Comment: gentlemen do both. most people do neem and see no results because they are eating cooked foods like lifeless meat etc.. if you want neem to give the dramatic response then you must clean your body out so your body can absorb it Name: Gentleman Country: other Comment: RRRR,WHAT'S GOING ON PEOPLE,last month you started to talk about the neem and its advatages for dark circles ,now you abandon the neem and started to talk about the diet and strange herbs ,can't you just settle down for one thing and tell us what should we use step by step instead of confusing us ,i searched a lot for the neem to get it and now nobody give it any attention,so any wise man tell us what's the solution ,shall we do diet or take neem????i'm just wondering Name: hope Country: england Comment: now till 4 :) yup colds good 2 but not freezing Name: Jo Country: england Comment: is drinking thyme, dried herb with cold water ok too? Is there any time u can come online 2day? Name: hope Country: england Comment: yup jo fenugreek is good i never found it over here but if you have then cool use it :) sarvani look further down at my meal plan :) Name: sarvani Country: usa Comment: hey hope I kinda need help .How do I reduce dark circles naturally? Name: Jo Country: england Comment: ok i wont hav turmeric. is drinking thyme, dried herb with cold water ok and also is it ok to eat fenugreek? Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey jo thyme from the garden is great and nettles just put them in a tea pot add hot water you already know not to boil. as for turmeric i advise against it but just for now one step at a time :) Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope i just found out that turmeric is a gud blood purifier how can i take that, make a tea?? Name: Whatever Country: other Comment: Joberry please can you tell me the name of the coverup that you use ? please, and tell me how much your dark circles have diminished so far? Name: Jo Country: england Comment: oops soz missed u hope again. How do u prepare thyme tea and nettle tea(how much would i need). Name: hope Country: england Comment: http://www.yourdictionary.com/images/ahd/jpg/A4dandel.jpg here is dandelion all gardens well nearly all have them :) oh yup 1 capsule to start with and epsom is great for baths so yup :D im on msn right now if you catch this in time Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Ummmm hope i'm not sure then if i hav dandelions in my garden they dont blow off thats the problem. how many capsules of burdock should i have in a day- will get em from holland&barrett. Do u think i should hav an epsom salt bath too- i've heard its gud 4 gettin rid of toxins. Name: Whatever Country: other Comment: What's up Joberry,where have you been? what's going on,it's been a long time you didn't tell us how much your dark circles have diminshed?waiting for your news,,, Name: darknomore Country: usa Comment: Hi.. not much for a chat room, however, after suffering for years with people telling me I looked exhausted and tired after trying to go to sleep at 8:00 pm to look fresh for the next day and failing..went and had surgery done for my ....allergy eyes...guess what? GONE...GONE..GONE.. the fat is removed from your eyelid and takes away the black shadow..hard to believe but true..worth the surgery..you know why? because I always felt healthy and was healthy but did'nt look healthy..now I do. Name: hope Country: england Comment: jo your very welcome im so glad your skin is clearing up. but still be prepared for a year detox. where your skin may break out abit more. just remember everything gets worse before it gets better thats the natural way :) yup dandelion is the things you blow it's the leaves you need they should be quite long and dandelions also have a yellow flower sometimes instead of the white thing that you blow. not yet jo but fruit will be back soon promise we will talk your plan through properly on msn :) Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Thanx hope. also jus wanted to know exactly how a dandelion looks like did a google search images but still findin it difficult to find some in my garden. if u blow em do the petal thingies hav to blow off. Do they grow in winter too? Hey hope i dont know how to thank u. My skin has cleared up- no spots but i'm sweating a lot and its kinda disguistin. Oh well as long as the long term benefits are gud. Hav 2 weeks finished yet i cant remember so should i shift to the next part. I really want to hav fruit. Name: freak Country: england Comment: Derm what is this gel? WHere can i get it? Name: hope Country: england Comment: oh and jo efa's did a search its not just in fish in fact dark green leafy veg such spouts seeds and nuts all contain them olive oil is very good Name: hope Country: england Comment: no meats or fish olives and olive oil and hemp seeds are great things umm only the burdock capsules dandelion is best picked. drink nettle as often as you can it's great also try going to a health shop and buy licorice root very good tea with cinnamon yummy. ohh try the yogi teas they are in shops around england :) ohh and by the way never!! boiling water always stop the kettle before the kettle starts boiling otherwise you may aswell be drinking a cup of mucus. if you don't boil your water just have it quite hot then the burdock will not dye and will still have great benefits good luck. pick dandelion and have the green parts with your salad of course wash the stuff but do not boil anything nor cook. only warm up Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hi hope. I also jus wanted to ask a few more things... 1) can i open up dandelion and burdock capsules into boiling water to make tea. Are capsules strong enough? 2) How many times in a day should i drink nettle tea 3) can i eat fish if not where do i get my essential fatty acids from? 4) can i hav chicken, eggs, heated beans Thanx a lot Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey jo yup rye bread is ok. basically you must transition very slowly to raw eventually no more cooked things will be your cravings once you have made natural food. so yup you should choose when you do this 2 week course. it really should be just veggies because bread clogs the system and the parasites cannot escape if their is excess mucus cool i saw you on my msn now will try and be on monday :) ohh and dandelion root yup look at my plan further down. good luck and anyone is welcome to talk one on one if they wish. byee Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Spas have a secret eye buster formula so simple and they charge 60 dollars for every application while it should be more like 60 cents. Use a unflavored gelatin under your eye one teaspoon of unflavored gelatin mixed with one teaspoon of boiling hot water and mix it together right away, put some on your wrist to make sure its not to hot then put it under your eye for 30 minutes. You should notice a difference afterwards. Keep doing it once a week for drastic results then 2 to 3 times a week to maintain. There you go people the cat is out of the bag. No hard feelings about the past messages i have left in the "past". Will probably not be coming back to the room except to see results the formula has done. Cya all later Goodbye Name: Whatever Country: other Comment: Yes you are right freaky ,why tina didn't show us her pics!why joberry stoped sending messages!Dose Neem really worked or what kids!! some one tell us please ,give us a hope to look beautiful please JOberry tell us how much did your dark circles decreased,or in the way to vanish? please !!!! Name: freak Country: england Comment: Hi i would like to know why did tina vanish? Its a bit sus she never showed us the pics and also that dude kashish did neem work for him/her? What was chang's cure was she a fraud? Name: &&&& Country: other Comment: OH,Panda,i'm dreaming to get rid of them also,i'm getting married soon ,and my boy friend told me that he wishes to have kids ,but not having dark circles as mine,eemmm sucks i know,but it's true inheritance things are hard to vanish, Name: Panda Country: england Comment: Hi me again er..... someone said dandelion root was good is this true? Name: Pan Country: england Comment: Joberry i would just like to know were your dc inherited? Also im not sure its 100% inherited i mean my bro had them when he was younger then when he got older they went so i think health problems are a factor too Name: Panda Country: england Comment: I cant beleive i cant get rid of these that is all that keeps me going is my hope that i wont have to live like this forever if it is true that i cant fix it i am really sad about that. But i have some hope for you because mine did fade this one time i just cant remember what i did! But i wont give up Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Thanx hope. Can I hav rye bread and crackers? Name: hope Country: england Comment: monday may be tricky ill do my best Name: Jo Country: england Comment: I hav added u again on msn. Give me a time on monday to come online around 12.30-3.00 anytime. Name: hope Country: england Comment: jo im online today on msn i don't see you on my msn try again you know the address Name: &&&& Country: other Comment: Oh ,Panda ,hopefully that neem would help,BUT i went to the doctor several times and he/she told that inheritance things are impossible to vanish same as if you have green eyes they can't alter to blue if you drink some natural things that's why i'm disappointed ,iasked a doctor ,,,good luck i look like a panda ahhh i hate it Name: Seema Country: england Comment: Panda I live in the uk too and believe me i'm looking 4 neem leaves as well - i think theres a uk based website which sells the stuff - www.the-neem-people.com - i havnt tried it but it will be my last resort - b4 that im told to try a few shops - just hold on a week and ill let everyone know wat i've found (i have tried loads of places - i just follow leads). bye bye Name: Panda Country: england Comment: Shut up dermatologist except if you want to actually say something useful other than don't smoke you don't need to be a dermatologist to figure that one out Name: Panda Country: england Comment: No mine is worse i inherited them from my dad but all my 3 sis and my bro they dont have them so they all look really good and they are not so bad if your a guy why wont anyone send me the damn leaves i cant go to india! Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Panda, everybody for him or herself sucka lol Name: &&&& Country: other Comment: OH ,Panda,my problem is wrose than u because i inherited the dark circles from my family ,we all home look like a panda,,,,so i 'm just dreaming to get rid of the dark circles, Name: Panda Country: england Comment: Oh right i heard if they are black then thats cuz of the kidneys so maybe neem is good for kidneys? It really sucks that i can't get any neem can anyone here from the UK send me any? Cuz we should all help each other out? Name: &&&& Country: other Comment: emmm i don't from where to start,but mature people don't use any kind of cremes because my dark circles increased after each time i applied it to my eyes,oh horrible,and i'm getting married next year ,so i want actully to look cute instead of "panda",a question for jobery and tina ,is using of neem is permenant or should we take it all the time? "if it works for me" i'm looking forward to hear from you Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: When we say our circles are black that means, its so dark that it almost is the shade of black, that's exactly how mine looked a few months ago. I know cranberry juice is good because it cleans out your urinary tract and helps prevent infections. So I'm sure its good to implement into your diet. Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope or Al can someone tell me if i can drink cranberry juice is it gud for raw diet Name: Panda Country: england Comment: Hello! I have another question i didn't ask earlier i wanna know wat do people mean when thay say that their dark circles are black? Do u mean like really black? Mine are like blue colour i really wanna fade them! Name: Panda Country: england Comment: Oh yeah how are peoples detox goin? Name: Panda Country: england Comment: Hi my problem is finding any neem wat do i do? Thanks for any help Name: Seema Country: england Comment: Maybe its sun-damaged skin?? See a dermatologist about it I think? Name: !!!!! Country: other Comment: How are you doing guys ,my problem is complexi have blue ,purple ,black and different colour around my eyes plus i have dark pigment above my cheeks i look like a clown ,i tried everything to solve it but no way to get rid of it ,so if i go to the indian store what shall i ask about the neem powder or neem leaves or what?bez i've heard there are different products !!!! Name: Rickey Country: usa Comment: I have dark circle around my eyes for years i try a few product from my wife but no result.I have regular sleep and i have no problem. Please help My email is rickey_ssb@yahoo.com Thank You for your kind corporation. Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Hi Susan, I use cool water (normal tap temperature). Loseen: I think using neem internally instead of externally would be more beneficial as you're cleansing your body from the inside. Name: Susan Country: england Comment: Hey Joberry just read your post i was just wondering do you use hot or cold water for your neem powder? I have been using neem too but all i can get are dried leaves and they are not that bitter so i dont think they are as effective im gonna try get the powder, and Natalii no one was being mean but i think you should not take something if you are worried personally my dark circles are so bad i will try anything even surgery bye! Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: I use the powder form and then I mix with water. I think Tina used the fresh leaves. If you go back to her posts (all the way down) you'll see that she boiled it and drank it like 3x a day. Natalli: If you do happen to come back to this site. People are not mean and arrogant on this board. It's just that the same questions are being asked repeatedly. And you didn't try our advice so how can you say it's useless! I wish you well. Name: natalii Country: other Comment: What happened to you guys ! what did i say come on calm down,i don't want to take anything that you guys suggested i don't want even to join this web site you are mean and arrogant ,by the way my mom told me not to drink any foreign things have a nice summer wish you the best with your useless advices Name: Joanne Country: england Comment: lol loseen/natalii you keep asking over and over if it is good to drink neem and we keep saying YES then you just ask again? Just take it! Name: Sati Country: england Comment: Thanks Joberry, But I have one final question. How do you prepare it from fresh leaves. Do you crush them and take the juice or boil them. People use different methods but what do you do. Thank you Name: xxxxxxxxxx Country: singapore Comment: loosen other= natalii believe me! Name: loseen Country: other Comment: Hello,Jobberry ,it's cool hearing that the awful DC, are decreased a bit which is not bad ,so do you agree that i should neem internal not External like apply it around the eyes for minutes or whatever,? another question dose neem effect our blood circulation in negative way if we use it much?(everyday)or is it better?this qeustinos for ppl who have the answer,,, Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Hi Natalli, the only way to find out if you are allergic to neem is to try it... Loseen: I totally agree with Tina. Neem does help eliminate dark circles. As I said before, my face is also pimple free and looks healthy. Name: natalii Country: other Comment: Hi joberry,thank's for replying, i know no body says that i should drink it ,i dont even know you ,so why would i say that you or others force me(logical),what i meant that how could i know that i'm allergic to it ? in fact i'm not allergic about anything not even if some one talk to me i'm light_hearted,i'm 19 years old and caring so much about my look which drives me crazy ,so i'm not make it a big deal at all i'm just asking and i'd like some one (light-hearted )as me to answer me if u don't mind guys ,if u mind IGNORE me totally ,it just words take it EASY,be funny honey and have guys a wonderful day ,i apologize again,sorry for my bad english my native mother toungh is french,merci beaucoup,aurevoir Name: loseen Country: other Comment: Hello Joberry& Jonna Do you agree with Tina from England that Neem is good,that we can get a benefit from drink it????? Name: Joanne Country: england Comment: Yes i drank it for the first time no one in my family has ever drank it and im not dead yet! Why the big deal about drinking it this is getting over the top! Name: Natasha Country: other Comment: OH,Jobbery ,welcome back to the chat room ,i bought the neem powder,but i didn't in my whole life drink it before ,so do you think that i can drink it without any problem? oh please can some one tell me if he/she drink it for the first time without any problem please, Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Sorry! I didn't mean to come across rude or anything..lol..Yes, I've seen a significant change, my black circles are now brown, that's with 2 months of drinking neem. Well I don't want to tell you that you should drink it because god forbid you're allergic to it, I don't want to feel guilty about it. On the other hand, people use it all the time. It's basically your decision. Oh and about the beet root, I eat it all the time in salads or even steamed, beets are very good for your blood, I know because I have low blood pressure and my doctor told me I should eat beets. Name: Jan Country: england Comment: hope i was wondering can you eat raw betroot? IS this good for you? How about beet juice? Name: natalii Country: other Comment: Hi Jobberry, i'm extremely sorry if i said something bad ,but i actully want to know if i can drink neem bez i haven't drank it before ,but its seem that you used to drink it since u were a kid as i understood from your last message!by the way do you recommend me to drink it ?i mean did you get any changes since you start to drink it? anyway take easy and have a lovely day Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Sati: I drink neem whenever I feel like it, there is no set time and no rules as to how and when to drink it. I usually drink a 1/4 spoon in a cup of water (followed by more water) about 3-4 times a day, sometimes less, if I'm not in the mood. I assume any type of neem works the same regardless of where it was grown. I, however, do buy neem in the U.S., but it's made in India. Natalli: I've only been drinking neem for a little over 2 months. I have no side effects. If you guys don't feel comfortable drinking something, by all means you don't have to. For myself, I know neem is not harmful b/c my family has been using it for many, many years. I only knew about drinking it for dark circles when Tina mentioned it and I didn't hesitate b/c I knew it was not harmful to our body. No one's forcing anyone to do this. I took it upon myself to try this and it's working. If you have reservations then don't do it, it's as simple as that! Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope I hav added u to my msn plz accept my invitation Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey jo i havn't left but like i said im majorly busy you really would be much better posting your questions to me by email or msn. that goes for evceryone your all welcome to add me to your msn'z dental_floss_eat_yum@hotmail.com ill answer everyones questions and problems sorry but i knew there would come a point where it got too busy for me thx all bye Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Has hope left? Name: Jan Country: england Comment: Good luck bruce hope its effective! Name: Bruce Country: southafrica Comment: I have finally made an appointment for the first session of laser surgery for this Friday. Will let you know what happens. Keep smiling! Name: xxxxxxxxx Country: singapore Comment: Oh here we go again, now we're tryin to figure out whether it was an "argument" or not for god's sake Al jus said he/she doesnt wanna get involved. He/she has made the recommendation its up to u to take it or not. Dont drill people's brains in. Name: xxxxxxxxxxx Country: singapore Comment: Oh really is that why Al wanted to go away. For god's sake plzzz stop askin stupid questions and even if u do, Al if u get fed up just stop answerin them. Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: The best way to get rid of dark circles is not to smoke, excercise 20 minutes a day atleast 4 days a week(5 or 6 is preffered and jogging is the best) those two key components are the best. Thats all ill give you for now. So stop the smoking and excercise and youll see. I wont get into the hylexin discussion anymore cause i know its too expensive for most of the people here. Will keep posting more information for you people when i find it. But as far as me coming along my circles are reaching the point where they have pretty much vanished. Goodbye everyone Name: ? Country: usa Comment: Al - it was not an "argument." If you took read the post carefully, your comments were considered valid, but an observation was being made. And, "xxxxxxxx"-debate does not drive intelligent people away; only people like you who can't intelligently handle dissension. Name: Seema Country: england Comment: I forgot to say my circles are still as bad! Name: Seema Country: england Comment: Thats really good advice - and would work 4 many - but i get loads of sleep - infact if i dont get my 8-9 hours in the week day i sleep in the day 4 a bit - and weekends wow - i can sleep 4 ages - thats why im always late 4 stuff!!! bye bye (and over the last couple of months ive increased my water intake to over 2 litres per day) Name: ms.racoon Country: malaysia Comment: hi guys dark circle is caused by lack of good sleep,what i mean by good sleep is going to bed one or two hours before 12.Reproduction of cells starts just before midnight.Try it for a week and see the diffrence! Name: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Country: singapore Comment: See u make people run away from this discussion board just like Tina did and many others Name: Al Country: india Comment: To be honest im not interested in getting into this argument if you don't want to drink neem then don't! I am NOT forcing you to drink it just find another way to solve your dark circles i think im going to take a break from this message board for a while bye Name: Again Passing Through Country: usa Comment: Al - Just because it is growing naturally does not make it safe to ingest. Would you ingest poison ivy? Hemlock? Death Angel mushrooms? Nor does it mean that it not a drug (opium, marijuana). Your point that people in India have been using for thousands of years is very valid. However, perhaps others not exposed to it for generations may not tolerate it as well. E.g., while many native Mexican people can drink their own tap water (but generally don't), travelers generally do not have the ability to tolerate the water. Name: I don't care..... Country: other Comment: Stop worryng you, there are MORE IMPORTANT THINGS ON THE WORLD... please, dark circels are just a part of our body...you must to think about your soul, if you will be healty in your suol, your body will be see healty too:)) good luck Name: Jo Country: england Comment: One more question hope: Can I eat fish if no where am i obtaining my essential fatty acids from? Name: Natasha Country: other Comment: hi guys can some one tell me whats going on about the neem ? did some one try it and get good result? and please convince me how the body recognize the we drink it to solve the DARK CIRCLES trouble not something else? i mean how do you think that the neem is so smart to know that we drink it to get rid of the horrible DC that make us look sick? i wish the answer is yes especially from the people who tried it before,but i've heard that ppl who inhertied the problem it would be impossible for them to get rid of the DC ,,,i dont know guys what should we do to get rid of the dark circles without any trouble, Name: Anon Country: england Comment: natalii if you dont want to drink it dont! Find another way to solve your dark circles ppl who want to take the "risk" will Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope can I have any of the following: eggs, baked beans, chicken and is brown wholemeal bread refined bread Al/ Hope? Name: natallii Country: other Comment: Hi,Passing Through thank's for sending the name of the neem web site side effects ,i realized that neem may cause some severe diseases, i'm wondering if jobberry used to drink it since he was a kid or when?bez he wrote that is drinking it 3-4 times aday do you feel good jobberry ? you haven't written a comment for long time !!are you okay? Name: Al Country: india Comment: Sorry i forgot to put earlier that website you keep posting is referring to an allergic reaction some ppl can get a reaction to anything so guess you should be careful if your allergic Name: Joanne Country: england Comment: Sorry i did receive the e-book it just took some time forget my crazy rant! Name: Al Country: india Comment: Im not criticising but i have to keep saying the same thing neem is a plant growing naturally in india it is not a drug and it has been used for thousands of years especially here if i knew any side effects i would say Name: Passing Through Country: usa Comment: Instead of criticizing people for asking LEGITIMATE health questions, why don't those of you who have tried/use neem provide some real answers instead of "don't worry, be happy". I agree that those asking the questions should do some research, but why not help them out. Anyway...if you "google" the term "neem" and "side effets", you get a whole host of sites (some legit others...?). Many seem to say that there are no "proven" side effects, others (such as the one I've posted here), say otherwise. http://www.healthtouch.com/bin/EContent_HT/altCareMedShowLfts.asp?fname=00441&title=NEEM++&cid=HTALT Let's be careful out there... Name: Sati Country: india Comment: Hi Joberry Can you please tell me how and when you are using neem and what kind. I have neem leaves from india is that ok. Thank you Name: Joanne Country: england Comment: I would like to know if anyone else purchased this and if it was successful Name: Joanne Country: england Comment: Sorry i meant charles silverman Name: Joanne Country: england Comment: DONT BUY THAT E BOOK BY NICK SILVERMAN I ORDERED AND I COULD NOT DOWNLOAD IT WHAT A SCAM! Name: natallii Country: other Comment: Hi Al i'm extremely sorry i didn't mean to be rude ,i'm scared to drink something that i 've never tried before that's it, sorry again Name: Al Country: india Comment: As i keep on saying again and again there are NO side effects you obviously worry too much Natalii Name: seema Country: england Comment: That comment is really rude - just ignore the comments if they bother u. Name: XXXXXXXXXXX Country: singapore Comment: For fucks sake stop goin on about side effects theres no side effects- shut up! End of! If your that bloody interested check on the net or dont drink the damn thing Name: natalii Country: other Comment: Hi Al from india,what do you mean that neem has no big side effects ,dose it have small side effects? and shall we drink the neem tea or the powder or the bark and which color has the bark ?and which is the best with no side effects shall i buy? i'm sorry if i bother you Name: hope Country: england Comment: not much at all a 1/4 tea spoon maybe Name: Joanne Country: england Comment: Oh right its just bark is more expensive how much would i have to drink of bark? Name: hope Country: england Comment: It does work but bark is quicker at doing the job Name: Joanne Country: england Comment: hope what results have you seen? I mean joberry drinks the leaf powder not the bark so how come this is wroking? Name: Al Country: india Comment: Look ppl there are no big side effects from drinking neem its been used for thousands of years, also Anonymous the diet i read doesnt really cut out all carbs just refined ones in case something is added to it but that means you must cut out bread i dunno i dont eat bread anyways bye! Name: Joberry Country: other Comment: Neem powder is green. You have to mix the powder in water. That's how I've always drank it. Name: hope Country: england Comment: prob can't no Name: Jo Country: england Comment: can u find burdock in the garden? Name: natalli Country: other Comment: Hi Joberry ,which color the neem powder has? in the previous message you said that you drank the neem tea???? so can you tell us exactly what did you drink please? Name: hope Country: england Comment: im not sure where you find burdock. but you are allowed cherry tomatos you know the little ones? like cherries :) but not the others. carrots i personally say no because you are trying not to have any sugar which carrots have too much of Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope one more question where can I find burdock leaf in my garden? Name: Jo Country: england Comment: my diet is going kinda fine jus tryin to avoid carbs. My spots have gone maybe it's just a one off. Hope can I have carrots and tomato? Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: I do drink lots of water also. Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: My circles diminish about 30% so far, so I still have some way to go. I buy the powder form of neem (in an indian store).For me, neem is bitter, so I drink about 1/4 tsp (powder form) in a cup of water. I do repeat the process atleast 3-4 times a day (everyday). And I have never had any side effects. Name: Anonymous Country: other Comment: Al in the books diet can u eat carbs after 1 month? Jo- How is ur diet going? Name: natalii Country: other Comment: Hi,jobberry please tell us do u drink neem tea or neem powder or what exactly? please tell us and do you have any side effects since you start to drink it? Name: hope Country: england Comment: the idea is that you should be realising you don't want rice or eggs any more. Name: loseen Country: other Comment: Hi,Jobberry please can you tell me how did you get the neem& how did you apply it please send me an e_mail at sweet_lossen@yahoo.se bez its hard for me to join this chat room Name: Anonymous Country: other Comment: Joberry did ur dark circles decrease by 30% or hav they decreased by 70%? How bitter is neem? Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Annonymous - neem has made a noticeable difference, the darkness around my eyes are down to about 30%. I still use dermablend coverup and when I do, you don't see any darkness around my eyes. The coverup is the best product. But yes, my undereye circles were almost black and now its brown. Name: Dr. Doolittle Country: other Comment: Derm: Hylexin is just another product like the dozens others that promises to fade dark circles. You cannot force people to buy a product just because you work for that particular company. It's expensive and is not guaranteed. Plus the tube is very small for $95. I've spent so much money on different products all promising the same as Hylexin and they did nothing for me and Hylexin may or may not work, but I just don't want to spend the $$ to find out. And since everyone is so cheap, why don't you be a doll and buy it for us since you always have some childish remark to make about everyone? Name: natalii Country: other Comment: hi guys ,to may it be concernd,shall i drink the neem bark or the neem leavs please some one tell me Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope will i be able to have good carbs like brown bread after say e.g. a month or so and eggs? Name: Jo Country: england Comment: sorry for some reason havent been able to sign in into msn for the past 1 and a half weeks. Anyone else havin this prob? Name: Anonymous Country: other Comment: Does anyody know wat kadwi (karwi) bhooti is? is dat neem? english translation plz Name: Joanne Country: england Comment: I read you are not supposed to drink the bark but just the leaves Name: hope Country: england Comment: ok sure :) no problem Name: Al Country: india Comment: Sorry hope! I dont have an msn account so i will have to keep posting on here Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: In case you haven't figured it out, I work for the people who manufacture Hylexin. Name: hope Country: england Comment: ok times up add me to talk tomorrow ill be on through the day goodnight everyone Name: hope Country: england Comment: 23:07 this is a real shame Name: hope Country: england Comment: time now is 22:27 im on msn right now till around 11:30 dental_floss_eat_yum@hotmail.co.uk add me and we can talk because i would rather not have to keep waiting and so forth i have a busy schedule. sorry if that sounds rude i love to help and i will keep posting here bt i think some peoples problems can be sorted quicker by talking one on one Name: hope Country: england Comment: http://www.neemgenie.co.uk/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=NA05&Category_Code=005 there you go susan Name: Susan Country: england Comment: Derm do you work for the hylexin company or what? I have had no side effects using neem and also where do i get the bark from? If you answer this Question ill be grateful bye! Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Only thing ill use those neem leaves for is to wipe my ass lol Buy some Hylexin you cheap fuckers peace Name: hope Country: england Comment: neem is very beneficial but you must also be used to it. our bodies may not recognise it as good. jo im not too sure about carbs olives are very good and filling and olive oil. neem bark is for the circles neem leaves also circles but not as effective Name: Susan Country: england Comment: Hope where do you get your neem bark from? Also why is everyone saying neem is harmful? Its been used for many years by people in india and its natural other herbs and leaves arent harmful so why should neem? Im really confused because some ppl say use the leaves others say the bark Name: Susan Country: england Comment: im also confused are we meant to drink leaves or bark for dark circles?? Ive been drinking leaves! Name: Jo Country: england Comment: One more thing is it ok if i eat a little carbs jus for meal time and chew on them properly Name: Jo Country: england Comment: One more thing is it ok if i eat a little carbs jus for meal time and chew on them properly Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Does that mean it will take me a year to experience low energy high energy and spots and loose stools? that long? Name: hope Country: england Comment: this is great news yup you may get headaches nausea skin trouble low energy high energy lot's of runny stools this is absolutly fine. detox will maybe last as long as you abused your body. im 18 so it's taking me 18 full months to fully detoxify but usually it's a year. after the detox wow you will feel great i promise you. once you have made this two week veggie plan i will move you on but first you must complete two weeks of veggies no fruits of any kind. Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope wat does that mean wat else should i expect? Also another thng is that i am still eating alittle bit of carbs as meal cos otherwise i get headaches. They're only a little bit carbs and i chew on them as much as possible too so it's ok i hope. I dont have any other carbs during the day. But why am I getting spots? are they eliminating toxins and oh yes i forgot i'm also sweating more. Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey jo yup it's the first stage of detox remember even if you feel your lowest some days you must not go back ot your old habbits this wioll clear you out now but please expect more things to come. and welcome them Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope I'm suddenly gettin so many spots is this normal? Name: Anonymous Country: other Comment: Joberrry has neem made a great effect to your dark circles or just minor? Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: I looked into the site that Angel posted. As I said, I have not had any negative symtoms from using neem. Someone asked about Sundari eyecream. I used that eye cream about 8 months ago without any success. It's expensive and if you apply too much around the eyes, you get a burning sensation. Hope that helps. Here is a site I found that list the ways neem can solve some health problems, it includes oral consumption for various ailments. Hope this helps too. Name: lina Country: other Comment: thank's alot for your response guys ,so you asked the doctors and they said that neem has side effects for the body or you are just predicting that? Name: hope Country: england Comment: good point lina it's just like green tea will only work for people who have been drinking it since childhood as their bodies are used to it. people who only drink it for detox are going to get their kidneys damaged Name: hope Country: england Comment: neem has the power to push you into healing crisis ( detox ) most people get alrmed and go right back to their old ways and never ccept their body is trying to heal. if you eat a raw diet and drink neem you have much more benefits. if your eating cooked foods and dead meats and thngs then neem is cleaning you then your loading yourself back in mucus and neem eventuall cannot help anymore. as it gets too much for your body. you can only experience pure detox by eating at least 85 - 99 % if your 100 % then right on! you will get what you want you just have to understand nature takes longer than drugs hoep this clears some stuff up Name: lina Country: other Comment: Hi guys,its really good news to hear that the horrible dark circles as i suffer from are fading, but i mean dose this neem have side effect that can hurt us in the long run,i mean people who live in asian should ask before they drink it please be concerned about your health before your look!i know it sounds nice to hear that the dark circles are vanished but����do you know guys i wanna also drink it but i'm afraid so pleasse one of you a kind person ask the doctor before swallow it because we are not sure about the side effet maybe we can get BLIND in the long run and what if that bark has a poison from some horrible insectes or animals hope some one take my advise Name: Anonymous Country: other Comment: Al is hope's plan more strickter than the book plan? would i have to take beetroot for this plan? Name: Anonymous Country: other Comment: Al has neem got rid of ur dark circles and i thought jobbery took the green leaf powder of neem and that it is working. How come its working if its not the bark hope? i'm confused Name: Seema Country: england Comment: Hope - i hope u dont mind if I ask u wher u get u're neem products from??? Thanks Name: hope Country: england Comment: just remember it's the bark that is the best part of neem. dark circles wise also intestinal worms horrid thought but practically all of us have at least some in us. the leaves are best for the skin but dark circles just the bark. also you may notice your teeth and gums get much healthier while you have been drinking neem. yup neem leaf is green but the brak powder i drink is brown. Name: Al Country: india Comment: That is only if you allergic to it i have been taking neem for a while and i also know others too no problems but dont drink the oil its made from the seeds and not good for you Name: Angel Country: usa Comment: sorry! forgot to paste the site: http://www.healthtouch.com/bin/EContent_HT/altCareMedShowLfts.asp?fname=00441&title=Indian+Lilac%2C+See+%7CNEEM++%7C+&cid=HTALT Name: Angel Country: usa Comment: Hey guys, I found this site that talked about NEEM. It includes some common names for NEEM and warnings and side effects of NEEM, such as chest pains, other skin problems, etc. Perhaps we should look more into this further... Name: Angel Country: usa Comment: Anyone used neem oil? Went to a Indian store and all they had was neem oil... Would oil do too?? Name: Seema Country: england Comment: Hi mimi - im told that u can make a paste with neem and some flour (maybe gram flour)+water and leave it on eyes for a while - its suppose to do something - but i dont think it will do much - ive been using a cream containing neem and almond - its not doin much (its suppose too) - if u got the choice - just drink it. Im quite sure there are no side effects as it is also an ayuvedic type treatment - ive heard the worst that can happen with such treatments is loose motions!! (i dont think u get that with neem) - but if u are worried dont take it - + as we all know the herb has really good anti - bacterial properties - so does more good then harm.....................................ps about the sex cure - Joberry is right, but if u feel a circulation boost is necassary - go 4 a jog so that all ure body is pumping as a pose to just part of ure body (not that u guys would go for a hard core partner hunt just to try a method which would never work!!) Oh and this weekend im gonna go to a horrible place called southall, and go into every single shop 4 neem!!!! - ok its not that bad - but still I feel weird there!.bye Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Oh! and for the sex remedy, that advice sounds way off....lol. I hope the young ones on this board don't run out and start having sex like crazy to see if it actually works...lol Name: Joberry Country: usa Comment: Neem is green. I've been drinking neem for over 2 months and I have had no side effects, none whatsoever. It only made my skin more clear and I'm pimple free. And most important my dark circles are fading. Name: Maulik shah Country: england Comment: Before my marriage I had the same problem, but after marriage my dark circle reduced. Why..Only because of Sex. Do as much as sex. Because of sex your blood circluation is getting high and due to that your circles get reduced or removed in fex months. Name: Charles Silverman N.D. Country: usa Comment: I recommend that you check this page: http://www.homemademedicine.com/home_remedies_for_dark_under_eye_circles.html Thanks. Name: Nisha Country: india Comment: The powder is green Name: mimi Country: other Comment: hey guys i found neem powder but is it possible to drink something that we are not sure about if it has a side effect? and why we cant apply it around the eyes instead of drink it???? Name: Jo Country: england Comment: ok thanx yeah i guess it's definitely better than coke. actually i'm curious to know too wat colour is neem powder? white, black? Name: hope Country: england Comment: well it's better than drinking coke so go for it for now that is Name: Anonymous Country: other Comment: Wat colour is neem? Name: Jo Country: england Comment: sorry cant come on msn at the moment will try in the evening. Hope are u sure it's ok to drink burdock and dandelion drink even if it has sugar/ flavouring in it? Name: hope Country: england Comment: yup in a nutshell Al if your follwoing this now you are experiencing detox. so welcome all unpleasent symptoms im on msn add my address to talk Name: Anonymous Country: other Comment: I cant find neem. I went to a indian shop and they said they had never heard of it. Name: Nisha Country: india Comment: Has anyone else tried sundari neem eye cream? As mentioned by meena Name: Kim Country: canada Comment: Tina has gone Name: mimi Country: other Comment: Hi Tina from england ive asked about the neem in some indians stores and they told me that neem is used for hair and people can't drink it so please can you send me an e_mail at (sweet_loseen@yahoo.se )if you dont mind Name: Al Country: india Comment: yeah i think headaches are normal that is good actually it means you are getting rid of whatever your body was being affected by Name: Al Country: india Comment: Tina its not worthless but its very similar to hope's plan if not a little stricter but buy it if you want but if you dont want to spend the money hope's diet is very similar Name: Jo Country: england Comment: I dont have dandelion in my garden. where can i get dandelion tea from? cant i open up the capsules and put them nto boiling water? i am getting really bad headaches is this normal? Name: hope Country: england Comment: dental_floss_eat_yum@hotmail.com i am online now feel free to add me whenever you need advice Name: hope Country: england Comment: heey ann and Jo you only have to cut out fruit for two weeks afterwards you can bring it back in when i give the next part of the plan. eye exercise hmm ok move eyes to the left as far a possible. same wth right up and down circles etc :) don't hate yourself. thats silly anne :) don't worry about neem jo for now that is oo illford im in boreham wood umm no not capsules get the tea much more beneficial alsp pick your own dandlion and make tea. if you cannot get burdock take capsules but only if you cannot. as for yoga. start withdeep breathing http://yoga.org.nz/yoga_vidoes.htm sign up for the newsletter and dload this :) Name: tina Country: other Comment: Hi AL from india ,you have already bought the book do you think it's worth to buy it or is it useless as others please tell me Name: Ann Country: england Comment: Hi hope i really dont want to cut out fruit do i have to? Also what yoga do i have to do? I havent done yoga before can you tell me some exercises good for eyes?? Hey what was Ms.Chang's cure after all that? I hate my dark circles and myself Name: Al Country: india Comment: I already read the book tina what do you want to know? Name: hope Country: england Comment: ill get back to you in an hour jo Name: tina Country: other Comment: Read this book at(www.darkcirclesundereyes) and tell me your opinion please! Name: Kay Country: canada Comment: Hi do you add hot water to neem leaves does anyone know? Name: Jo Country: england Comment: thats gud hope but let's keep our convos here so dat other people can benefit too. Other people might want to follow this plan. i dont mind if u want to chat on msn. Oops yesterday i had a small slice of pizza cos my head was killing me i had really bad headaches. How do u do yoga? And also i can get dandelion and burdock capsules shall i jus open them into warm water and drink? another thing i cant get hold of neem do u know of a place? Oh by the way i live in Ilford so any shops near that place? There is some indian shop called mina stores do u know if they sell it there- it's not in ilford but coulld go there cant find their tel no so jus wondering if u know if they sell neem. Thanx a lot 4 ur time Name: hope Country: england Comment: i didn't realise people would respond to my plan so i will setup an msn account during the week and we can talk one on one if you wish Name: hope Country: england Comment: very important you must allow your body to digest it's food and it speeds up healing . because your sleep will improve also. thus already helping with circles. im very glad you have chosen to do this. but please do yoga and self resistance training type that in google it's very effective. the more muscle and fat you give to your body the more skin that will cover your face and eyes :) don't feel at any point you have asked too many questions i just want to share my knowledge with you good luck Name: Jo Country: england Comment: why cant i eat anything after 7 p.m? Name: hope Country: england Comment: lool if you like kiddin :) umm you can make really cool salads and zucchini pasta yummy experiment with all the natural foods in their raw state you will do just fine Name: Jo Country: england Comment: so i cant hav anything to eat after 7 pm? and wat should i have for a meal- leaves? Name: hope Country: england Comment: yup go for the edible greens if you like the taste of grass go fo it. it stops tooth decay and rebuilds cavities. oh your last mal must be by 7 o clock in the evening no later otherwise you disrupt the healing. Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Is one piece of garlic enough for a day and another problem is dat when i have it before going to sleep i cant get to sleep and if i take it durig the day my breadth stinks of it. wat shall i do? Name: Jo Country: england Comment: This is great anything from my garden which is green? wow Why is grass not nice- does it not taste nice? Name: hope Country: england Comment: feel free Jo you can have all wild greens including dandelion and nettle also mint yum but really experiment with green leafy veggies and wild foods these are basically things you find outside even grass but be careful with grass and add it o your smoothies because grass isn't very nice but it restores your teeths whiteness as does sage :) Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Thanx hope. I was wondering whether instead of making nettle tea is it ok to eat the leaves cos they're more filling. tea doesnt fill me up. Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Once again, I am off my meds, so I have to apologize...just ignore my rants Name: hope Country: england Comment: too many question that i don't mind answering :) well it's called pumkin seed milk because blended pumkin seeds with two glasses of water turns it into pumkin milk. use sping water or britta filtered. lot's of zinc! very important. great cleanser. yup lemon can be a blood purifier in the long run but it is mostly used to loosen the bowels Name: Maiya Country: france Comment: Is lemon a blood purifier? Name: Jo Country: england Comment: if no milk is added why is it called pumpkin seed milk? Oh by the way wat type of water do u add if not distilled/ tap? Do u have to blend it can u not just eat loads of pumpkin seeds with water? why are pumpkin seeds gud for u? sorry i know too many questions. Name: implifly Country: england Comment: how about trying not to sleep for a week! here me out for a sec. what if we ate this great health food, exercised, read books, relaxed but just keeo eating healthy calories foods to boost tyhe enrgy and not sleep. i reckon because we won't be closing our eyes we wont get that morning sand in our eyes or that eye strain or he creases . and i can almost guarantee that dark circles will go away. but you have to carry on normally as you would during the day. so give it a try because when i had insomnia believe it or not i loved staying up all the time i got so much done. and my circles were not there after a while. Name: hope Country: england Comment: you blend pumkin seed with water and make it into milk and add things to it like i said to give it taste flax is great aswell. sesame i wouldn't use that unless it's black sesame Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: You are all wasting your time with all this mumbo jumbo recipe bullshit, i mean really do you people like to fuck around on a daily basis preparing all that shit that doesnt even work , this is so funny you people are dumb as hell dont even know what causes dark circles you idiots try HYLEXIN to repair your eyes you fuck knockers im out peace Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hey hope and Al thanx a lot for all the info u've definitely bought hope for us all. Just wondering hope wat can i replace instead of pumpkin seeds and i didnt quite understand how to prepare it (in water?) will sesame seeds or flaxseeds be suitable alternatives or anything else Name: hope Country: england Comment: vempu,veppa try these aswellhope that helps Name: hope Country: england Comment: hey maiya it's nimba Name: Maiya Country: france Comment: Yeah Al I understand your problem cos i'm in the same position too- big family and not only that but my family doesnt even understand the importance of health they think it's some rubbish made up thing. Anyway i'm going to try and change my diet. does anybody know of another name for neem? cos my grandma lives in india and she doesnt know wat that is so was wondering if theres another name for it Name: hope Country: england Comment: your very welcome Al yupred clover and nettle are great for the food plan. :d also to help along please start some morning yoga maybe about ten 15 minutes every morning. to help you along :) Name: Al Country: india Comment: Sorry Maiya just saw your comment i dont really think theres anything better than your diet i have found but according to the book you must also increase your circulation although your probably exercising anyway but try more? Name: Al Country: india Comment: By the way i still havent tried the diet yet its very hard in my family becuase i have such a big family and we all eat together and i will have to eat different but i have begun by taking neem and eating better i just need to cut out the bad stuff how is everyone else doing? Name: Al Country: india Comment: Hope thanks for your advice on the blood purifiers just wondering can you drink clover blossom and nettle tea? what results have you seen? Name: Seema Country: england Comment: Hi if ure worried about protein intake - black eye beans are high in protein as are most pulses. Name: hope Country: england Comment: and nope we are not natural meat eaters Name: hope Country: england Comment: simple really too much of one thing make the body lazy. it's like exercise if you follow th same odl routine your body stops feeling the workout because it knows the instructions of by heart. sal our protein is in every raw food we eat veggies fruit even nuts seeds staples! Name: Sal Country: england Comment: Who has actually seen improvements by a raw diet? Humans are natural meat eaters? Where are we supposed to get protein from? Name: Al Country: india Comment: How come you cant take the same blood purifiers all the time Im just curious Name: Jo Country: england Comment: No i wont stop it my names Jo too i have been posting for a while i cant just change my name! lol Name: hope Country: england Comment: that tea sounds perfect also try holland and barratt Name: Maiya Country: france Comment: Hey Al thanx for the advice. Is there anythin i can do other than diet that will help and other than sleep enough. Thanx a lot Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope- I cant find burdock but i can find a drink with burdock and dandelion will this be useful? I think it has sugar added though. The only things i can purchase are on the asda website- type in in google and then click home shopping and then click take a look around. By the way I dont know whose doin this but someitmes people are usin my name and makin comments- plz stop it Name: hope Country: england Comment: don't worry jo let me know what you cannot find ill find a replacement for you Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope do I have to eat everything mentioned on the list everyday because some things i cant find. Name: hope Country: england Comment: it's very true you must eat different things for the blood. eat my diet that is a complete blood purifiying plan Name: Maiya Country: france Comment: Hey guys i have heard that u should alternate between blood purifiers and not keep taking same ones. Is this true? Name: hope Country: england Comment: well you can do this for a week but the other 2 weeks of the plan you must follow to reap the benefits :) Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hope can i like say eat one packet of crisps a day and no other junk and just follow this diet. Is one packet of crisp too much? Or e.g. one day if i dont eat crisps and have spaghetti as a meal but no other junk the rest of the day have these raw foods? Name: Al Country: india Comment: Maiya i dont really know about echinacea or if it works but try it if you like. Hope good diet i want to try raw garlic it is very good but i cant stand the taste Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: I have to apologize - I am just a pathetic, outcast person whose only real enjoyment in life is to cast aspersions on others and ppretend to be a doctor (and I'm not even good at either). You people should not even listen to me. Name: Angel Country: usa Comment: Would neem OIL work also? I don't know where the oil came from, leave or bark... But I suspect the oil is neem extract. Name: hope Country: england Comment: hmm depends how slowly if you can jump of the junk within a week then start it properly after then im sure it will be ok. Name: Jo Country: england Comment: "hope" can u introduce these raw things only partially into the diet with a little bit junk and slowly get rid of junk. Name: yupo Country: other Comment: the bark not the leaf make dandelion root tea Name: Sati Country: england Comment: Hi everyone I am new to this list, I have a problem with dark circules they seem to have got worse in the last four years. Can anyone tell me what has worked for them. I am going to try neem but I'm not sure if I should use the powder or fresh leaves. Name: Maiya Country: france Comment: Al cant u jus take eg white blood cell herbs like echinacea to increase whit blood count and u'll get less allergies. no? Name: hope Country: england Comment: oh Al good info on the blood purifiers and garlic and leeks your diet sounds similar keep posting :) Name: hope Country: england Comment: few more things.. experiemnt with all spicy herbs cinnammon yum cloves not too much. your not cooking once in this 2 week plan good luck whoever does try this. and those who have neem keep drinking it as you will be benfited more. don't take any supplments at all during these 2 weeks they will interfere a lot start your morning with a glass of warm water with a squeeze of lime not lemon add lemon and organic apple cider vinegar to your salads byee Name: hope Country: england Comment: hi people if i give you instructions to go on a strict 2 week diet will you do it? basically doing research i have found that parasites living in our bodies from eating dead foods meat etc are responsible for our dark circles and most other problems. acne ring a bell anyone? as they are in our colon which is where death begins by the way. here is your plan. mix it around as much as you want .......... make ginger tea eat raw garlic with your salads eat raw leaks and raw onions drink rosehip tea drink nettle tea + dandelion if you can make your own from the garden by all means do so this includes catnip nettle dandelion mint spearmint eat some raw hot peppers with your salads experiment sauces. eat as many green leafy veggies as possible avoid carrots they are not as good as you think those with candida may understand what i mean. include lot's of cucumber. drink thyme tea very important expels them. right now make pumkin seed milk loads of pumkin seeds + water ( not distilled or tap ) blend together add some honey to taste. make regular tea using this milk not! dairy. notice i have not meantioned fruit once! there is a reason for this and that we need to remineralise our bodies first and i say this because most of what you are eating that is healthy is not being absorbed right now because your body is too full of toxins and mcdonalds . and going on my alkaline plan will not only destroy most parasites but it will begin detoxification from not eating anything dead or cooked. you may feel abit weak at times abit of nausia but! this is perfectly natural and you must not stop once you begin this. you will notice your skin improve which will contribute dark circles. you will have days of endless energy. you will have days of lot's of bowel movement very important! eat beets seeds of all kinds except fruit of course. drink plenty of ginger tea naturally if you can. thyme also. make your pumkin seed milk. experiment with the natural herbs + veggies god gave us carrots are not really natural avoid them in this plan not a single thing must be don wrong or you wil lnot see any imporvements . the fruit is our treat when we have cleaned our bodies thoroughly. some may never want to eat cooked foods again when they see benefits that is absolutly fine. eating raw food is the best thing one can do for themself. it is a doorway of true health. phoo i wrote loads lol. and now you know that this plan will alakalize you kick starting your natural healing. i promise if you follow this something will change in you good afternoon :) Name: Gee Country: malaysia Comment: I really interested to try the product. May i know where I can get Vita-K in Malaysia? TQ. Name: Al Country: india Comment: Sorry i forgot to put something earlier garlic (raw) and leeks also good bye Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Derm your starting to get a little boring Name: Al Country: india Comment: Hi Lora like i said before you have to go on a strict diet in order to remove your intolerances im not sure if this will work for everyone but you are likely to have intolerances you dont know about the only accurate test is a white blood count test which i tried last year. Only i could never stick to the diet but then again i also had minor complaints like stomach problems and occasional headaches since i was young. Maybe you dont have intolerances but the diet takes only a month to stick to it. By the way these foods are blood purifiers (as well as neem): dandelion root, burdoch, watercress, betroot, and watercress and betroot are involved in the diet i havent started it yet i just cant give up my fave foods but i will try it soon. Bye Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: They brought the cream? Where did they bring it lol Name: Seema Country: england Comment: Look dermatologist, all of us here are completly aware that there is no treatment for dark eye circles, but we are free to try different things. Some of us will try the hylexin cream, others will try the whole detox/diet/herb thing, its our choice, theirs no need to be rude, we get the point - hylexin - some of us have brought the cream - and are not preaching it. Be polite, there are ways of puting your point across!!...bye Name: Dermatologist Country: usa Comment: Ive noticed since ive been gone alot of you people went back to your stupid complex tactics on getting rid of dark circles, Save some fucking money up to buy some hylexin you cheap fuckers is all i got to say Peace Name: Maiya Country: france Comment: can somebody tell me wat foods to eat to get rid of dark circles- specific plz Name: lora Country: thailand Comment: hi everybody,i'm lora who sent the name web site(darkcirclesundereyes),i'm wondering if some one down_loaded and get good result or is the solution as others ? use orange,cucumber and so on, i fed up please tell me and be kind i want to buy i dont have the adobe programme,, Name: Maiya Country: france Comment: hey guys dis might help try juice dieting to get rid of toxins Name: Susan Country: england Comment: Hi i wouldn't order neem on line because its really expensive im still trying to find some neem too is there anyone on here who can get it cheap? Thanks any help would be appreciated Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Hi i live in the midlands near leicester so i cant beleive i couldnt find any in Leicester I am going to try again Im quite far away from Brighton though! But let me know if you find any thanks Name: Seema Country: england Comment: Hi jo - just wondering - wat part of england are u from - coz if we close by and if i find a shop around ure local area I could let u know - but i know some-where in brighton its sold (i think). Name: Seema Country: england Comment: Hi people - im still lookin 4 my neem but i think i will have to order from the net!!! But believe me - wen i get it - i will be drinking it down by the bucket load - thought i may add that im a vege - and drink tonnes of water, dont smoke or drink - no apparent health problems - and am the only one in the family with this problem (as far as i know) - i thought i should add this as people always think that healthy eaters dont have this problem (+I jog twice a day for an hour at a time - so my circulation is ok too)....so - the only lifestyle change i can make is a detox (yuk)..bye Name: Jo Country: england Comment: Aaah!!! i cant get